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CSGV becoming increasingly frantic over 'printable gun'
St. Louis Gun Rights Examiner ^ | 5 October, 2012 | Kurt Hofmann

Posted on 10/06/2012 7:55:51 PM PDT by marktwain

St. Louis Gun Rights Examiner recently discussed the "Wiki Weapon" project, organized by University of Texas law student Cody Wilson, to develop a design for a firearm that can be printed on a 3-D printer. This design would be published for free on the Internet, and made available to anyone with Internet access. The project has hit a speed bump for the moment, because the manufacturer of the high-end 3-D printer revoked the lease of the printer when it got wind of the nature of the project. Wilson has vowed to not let this stop him, and is exploring his options.

Wilson's group, "Defense Distributed," poses the key question on its website:

"This project could very well change the way we think about gun control and consumption. How do governments behave if they must one day operate on the assumption that any and every citizen has near instant access to a firearm through the Internet? Let’s find out."

The Wiki Weapon Video: The Wiki Weapon

As readers might imagine, this does not sit well with the Coalition to Stop Gun Violence (CSGV). As this country's shrillest advocates of a "government monopoly on force," the idea of forcing change in governments' behavior through the open knowledge that every citizen can effectively arm himself/herself against oppression is blasphemy.

(Excerpt) Read more at examiner.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 3d; banglist; codywilson; wikiweapon
Guns have been made at home since the 1500's. It has always become easier. This is another step in that path toward everyone having access to the technology.
1 posted on 10/06/2012 7:55:59 PM PDT by marktwain
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To: All; marktwain

What Good Can a Handgun Do Against An Army?
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-backroom/2312894/posts


2 posted on 10/06/2012 8:04:02 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You cannot invade the mainland United States. There would be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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To: marktwain

Anyone with a decent home/hobby macine shop can make just about kind of firearm you can think of.


3 posted on 10/06/2012 8:04:51 PM PDT by fella ("As it was before Noah, so shall it be again,)
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To: marktwain

when will we be able to print Catherine Bell (the most beautiful woman in the world). That’s what I want to know.


4 posted on 10/06/2012 8:06:05 PM PDT by albionin
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To: marktwain

Don’t tell them what can be done with a CNC machine.


5 posted on 10/06/2012 8:09:17 PM PDT by mnehring
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To: albionin

I’ll take Avena Lee when she was about 22 or so. Just take my word for it. LOL!


6 posted on 10/06/2012 8:12:42 PM PDT by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America
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To: fella

Have fun.
http://www.ar15.com/content/manuals/lowerblueprint.pdf


7 posted on 10/06/2012 8:13:29 PM PDT by mnehring
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To: marktwain

8 posted on 10/06/2012 8:14:58 PM PDT by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Why start with a handgun when you can print yourself a tank! ;-)


9 posted on 10/06/2012 8:18:58 PM PDT by who_would_fardels_bear
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To: marktwain

The plans for making guns on a $300 used lathe are already on the internet.

I presume that a modern machining facility could simply load up the program into their CNC machine and make most any firearm part within minutes.

There are thousands of small CNC shops all across the USA. What will be the next leftist move, controlling the sale of steel? Probably.


10 posted on 10/06/2012 8:28:51 PM PDT by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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To: albionin

11 posted on 10/06/2012 8:32:50 PM PDT by BushCountry (I hope the Mayans are wrong!)
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To: who_would_fardels_bear
Why start with a handgun when you can print yourself a tank! ;-)

A handgun will fit in the build cavity, a tank won't.

12 posted on 10/06/2012 8:43:29 PM PDT by null and void (Day 1355 of our ObamaVacation from reality - Obama, a queer and present danger)
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To: fella

No home hobby machine shop can produce a rifled barrel.


13 posted on 10/06/2012 9:17:17 PM PDT by mamelukesabre (oppan gangnam style!)
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To: SampleMan
Perhaps you are unaware that one of the excuses used by BATF to obtain the warrant that eventually precipitated into the murder of the Branch Davidians was that Vernon Howell (aka David Koresh) had committed the very grave (potential) crime of owning a metal lathe and milling equipment.

BATF claimed this gave them probable cause to believe that his cult was "manufacturing" "machine guns."

14 posted on 10/06/2012 9:19:16 PM PDT by FredZarguna (Is YOUR religion BATF approved?)
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To: mnehring
Don’t tell them what can be done with a CNC machine.

Don't forget EDM at home...heheh.

15 posted on 10/06/2012 9:28:42 PM PDT by no-s (when democracy is displaced by tyranny, the armed citizen still gets to vote)
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To: mamelukesabre

I have much of the tooling from an old gunsmith who died in the 80s. There are many rifling buttons he made for most any caliber. It is totally possible to make your own rifled barrels.

And there is no need for a CNC mill to make guns, a manual Bridgeport will do just fine. ;)


16 posted on 10/06/2012 9:43:38 PM PDT by eartrumpet
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To: eartrumpet
I have much of the tooling from an old gunsmith who died in the 80s. There are many rifling buttons he made for most any caliber. It is totally possible to make your own rifled barrels.

Electric discharge machining and Electro-Chemical Machining are within the range of a the home shop. I was curious and built an EDM borer once (I also built a wire EDM). I'm pretty sure pistol barrels can be bored with rifling in-situ using EDM under distilled de-ionized water. You will need a controller, which you can build for yourself. ECM is also quite feasible these days. Both are tech you can fabricate at home from ordinary materials.

17 posted on 10/06/2012 9:58:08 PM PDT by no-s (when democracy is displaced by tyranny, the armed citizen still gets to vote)
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To: marktwain

Technology aside. Any, ANY organization, tha tis set up with the sole purpose of removing our God Given right guaranteed by the Constitiution, one of the first 10 Amendments put in place to guatantee the government does NOT take our right s away, should be outlawed. Free speech is free speech. But outright attempting to remove our constitutionally guaranteed rights has to be trumped by the commitment to guarantee those same rights.


18 posted on 10/06/2012 10:00:07 PM PDT by SolidRedState (I used to think bizarro world was a fiction.)
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To: no-s

Understood, but I am saying a good conventional home machinist with fairly primitive tools is also able to produce good quality barrels.


19 posted on 10/06/2012 10:03:26 PM PDT by eartrumpet
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To: albionin

A rather uhh flat version can be printed life size already.. sadly, shes 2 dimensional and not very functional.


20 posted on 10/06/2012 11:00:17 PM PDT by cableguymn (The founding fathers would be shooting by now..)
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To: eartrumpet

Some seem to forget that back when the gun was invented there where no outlets to plug the CNC machine in to ;)


21 posted on 10/06/2012 11:02:16 PM PDT by cableguymn (The founding fathers would be shooting by now..)
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To: marktwain
This is another step in that path toward everyone having access to the technology.

First read this in the 1950s; it is oddly apropos to this article.

Book review of The Weapon Shops of Isher: One of his classics that I had not previously read is The Weapon Shops of Isher. I finally got around to reading it now because it deals with the issue of the right to bear arms, which is so topical right now, particularly where I live, only a few miles from Columbine High School. In this novel, the eponymous weapon shops all bear the slogan, "The right to buy weapons is the right to be free."

In the distant future, the world has been unified under the empire of Isher, ruled by the young but ruthless Empress Innelda Isher. The only check on the power of the empress is the existence of the impervious weapon shops, which provide defensive weapons to ordinary citizens. [snip]

A. E. van Vogt: The Weapon Shops of Isher


22 posted on 10/06/2012 11:53:54 PM PDT by ApplegateRanch (Love me, love my guns!©)
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To: ApplegateRanch

Cool!


23 posted on 10/07/2012 12:17:14 AM PDT by GraceG
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To: albionin

Yeah! Baby!

Whatever happened with her?

Is she still around?


24 posted on 10/07/2012 12:28:39 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: mnehring

That’s just for a block which becomes a lower.

Where’s the rest of the parts? /s


25 posted on 10/07/2012 12:30:40 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: martin_fierro

You know, on a .556 I think you could actually shoot AK47 accurate in that format...


26 posted on 10/07/2012 12:31:53 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: marktwain
this does not sit well with the Coalition to Stop Gun Violence (CSGV)

Hopefully 3D printers will also be able to create instant gallows.
27 posted on 10/07/2012 12:54:02 AM PDT by PA Engineer (Liberate America from the Occupation Media.)
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To: marktwain

This is awesome!


28 posted on 10/07/2012 1:16:35 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Vendome

She has to be getting long in the tooth but I bet she still looks awesome.


29 posted on 10/07/2012 1:24:51 AM PDT by albionin
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To: marktwain

This whole “issue” reminds me of the debate over “plastic guns” when Glock started importing into the US............

Hysteria by the media with an agenda attached.


30 posted on 10/07/2012 2:05:13 AM PDT by Erik Latranyi (When religions have to beg the gov't for a waiver, we are already under socialism.)
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To: marktwain
This just means that the gun grabbers will switch from gun control to ammunition control (which they have been pursuing anyway).

A gun is not much good with out ammo.

31 posted on 10/07/2012 2:06:20 AM PDT by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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To: marktwain
This just means that the gun grabbers will switch from gun control to ammunition control (which they have been pursuing anyway).

A gun is not much good with out ammo.

32 posted on 10/07/2012 2:20:31 AM PDT by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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To: albionin

She’s probably Cougar Hot....


33 posted on 10/07/2012 2:27:04 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: Pontiac

This just means that the gun grabbers will switch from gun control to ammunition control (which they have been pursuing anyway).

A gun is not much good with out ammo.
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Hopefully by then we will be using “rail-gun” technology suitably sized for a handgun. Then the ammo will no longer need chemical powder and Brass. Then they go nuts trying to control aluminum and plastic.


34 posted on 10/07/2012 3:42:55 AM PDT by The Working Man
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To: SampleMan
"What will be the next leftist move, controlling the sale of steel? Probably."

Nah....what they will do is control ammo. Making the gun is just mechanics. Making the ammo requires some pretty sophisticated chemistry, both for the propellant(powder) and for the primers. And some very strong safety procedures to keep from blowing oneself up. Which is why B.L.O.A.T. (buy lots of ammo today) is the most important thing to do.

35 posted on 10/07/2012 3:56:12 AM PDT by Wonder Warthog
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To: albionin
Realistic picture

Glam pic


36 posted on 10/07/2012 4:56:03 AM PDT by Bratch
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To: mamelukesabre

I was in Jonathan Brownings workshop in Old Nauvoo (father of John Browning) in August, the rifling of barrels was accomplished quite easily in the 1840’s with a wooden screw tool pulling a carbide cutting piece repeatedly through the barrel... The barrels themselves were formed from FLAT steel hammered into half round forms.


37 posted on 10/07/2012 5:45:49 AM PDT by Neidermeyer
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To: FredZarguna

I was unaware of that. Thanks.


38 posted on 10/07/2012 5:52:33 AM PDT by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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To: Wonder Warthog

Concur on cartridge production being the weak link.

Besides BLOAT, I subscribe to the multile caliber theory.


39 posted on 10/07/2012 5:54:33 AM PDT by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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To: Bratch
"Realistic picture"

Well, the "shoulder up" shot doesn't show her two best features.... :^).

I see she's lost the chubby cheeks.

40 posted on 10/07/2012 6:22:14 AM PDT by Wonder Warthog
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To: ApplegateRanch

“The Weapons Shops of Isher” immediately came to mind on reading the article title. It is one of the few Ace sci-fi paperbacks that had a lasting effect on me. Well worth the read for those unfamiliar with it.

http://fantasticreviews.com/weapon_shops_of_isher.htm

This process goes further by providing additional tools to individuals beyond the CNC mini-mills, etc.

Individual arsenals for free men.


41 posted on 10/07/2012 6:27:34 AM PDT by Covenantor ("Men are ruled...by liars who refuse them news, and by fools who cannot govern." Chesterton)
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To: Vendome

All the blueprints you may ever need.
http://www.cncguns.com/downloads.html


42 posted on 10/07/2012 6:45:21 AM PDT by mnehring
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To: eartrumpet
Understood, but I am saying a good conventional home machinist with fairly primitive tools is also able to produce good quality barrels.

If Pakistani tribesmen can produce guns under Third World conditions, it's futile to think you can stop gun making in the US.

43 posted on 10/07/2012 6:57:49 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (Charlie Daniels - Payback Time http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EWwTJj_nosI)
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To: mamelukesabre
No home hobby machine shop can produce a rifled barrel.

I beg to differ. Boring the barrel takes some technique, but if they can do it in Darra Adam Kel in the tribal territories in Pakistan, or if backwoods gunsmiths could do it in early 1800's Pennsylvania, hobby machine shops with precise lathes can do it easier.

44 posted on 10/07/2012 9:16:53 AM PDT by marktwain
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