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Wear radio chip or leave, school tells students Superintendent issues warning: 'There will
WND ^ | 10/6/12 | Jack Minor

Posted on 10/06/2012 11:46:11 PM PDT by Nachum

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To: Nachum

So pay some well behaved kid to wear your chip so you always appear to be in the right place.


51 posted on 10/07/2012 5:32:34 AM PDT by Boiling point (Socialism; Ideas so good they have to be mandatory.)
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To: GeronL

Fire the superintendent. That dad needs to run for school board. Parents have forgotten that they run the school. Have a few dozen parents show up at the admin office and watch those chips go bye-bye.

Every year my kids were in school, there were one or two new rules that I got stopped in their tracks with merely a few phone calls and usually without them knowing who did it.

Look who the mayor is in San Antonio. That could be a big part of this. Mayor Castro is uber lib and his mama is a La Raza member. http://rockwallconservative.me/2012/09/06/san-antonio-do-you-know-the-mother-of-your-mayor/


52 posted on 10/07/2012 5:40:39 AM PDT by bgill
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To: bert
I fail to see a problem other than Luddite disgust for change.

Remember those wonderful computers that were given to students in PA?

53 posted on 10/07/2012 5:46:22 AM PDT by Roccus
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To: Roccus

NO


54 posted on 10/07/2012 5:51:14 AM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... Present failure and impending death yield irrational action))
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To: IslamE
What is with hippies growing up to be fascists, who’d of “thunk” the generation of “free love” would want to videotape and track one’s every move

See: Bill Ayers, Bernadine Dohrn, Weather Underground, Charlie Manson.

55 posted on 10/07/2012 5:52:34 AM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves" Month)
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To: bert

THEN LET ME REFRESH YOUR MEMORY

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robbins_v._Lower_Merion_School_District


56 posted on 10/07/2012 5:54:05 AM PDT by Roccus
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To: IslamE

Also see: Janet Reno/Waco, The Clinton death files, The Obama death files.


57 posted on 10/07/2012 5:55:00 AM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves" Month)
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To: Roccus

so what?

That has nothing rational to do with passes and restricted entry


58 posted on 10/07/2012 6:03:41 AM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... Present failure and impending death yield irrational action))
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To: bert

Let’s be clear on this, bert. This process doesn’t tell anything other than where the CARD is located, or what doors/locks it has activated at what time, etc. Unless it’s surgically attached to the person, it’s not assured that little Johnny used his card to get anywhere...


59 posted on 10/07/2012 6:03:42 AM PDT by PubliusMM (RKBA; a matter of fact, not opinion. 01-20-2013: Change we can look forward to.)
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To: bert

There are non so blind as those who refuse to see.

But what do I know....I’m just a ludite.

So long and thanks for the fish.


60 posted on 10/07/2012 6:05:43 AM PDT by Roccus
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

So many of those hippies also spit on and mistreated the soldiers coming back from Vietnam, that it really is no surprise those stringy-haired, dope-smoking hippies would today be fascist.


61 posted on 10/07/2012 6:08:17 AM PDT by AmericanMermaid
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To: Kickass Conservative

Why bother with truants?

If they dont want to be there, don’t make them go. Kids do not have to be a make-work program for teachers.

Drop the draconian regulations against early workers and let the market rule. Right now we grow our own criminals by not letting kids 12 or 14 and up make choices on work. They are shelved instead of able to work hard.


62 posted on 10/07/2012 6:14:38 AM PDT by Chickensoup (STOP The Great O-ppression)
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To: Indika
there aren’t men or women with enough conviction and selflessness anymore in positions of power to fight evil
So true. The fact that school officials can come up with a plan like this and not fear for their own jobs shows how utterly weak we have become.
63 posted on 10/07/2012 6:16:08 AM PDT by samtheman (Obama. Mugabe. Chavez. (Obamugavez))
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To: SeminoleCounty
It’s the same state where the Governor, Rick Perry, tried to force little girls to take an STD vaccine (that had a fail rate of about 30%)...and the same Rick Perry that pushed property seizures to build toll roads for Mexican trucks to haul Communist Chinese goods thru Texas

Also home of John Roberts. CA ain't looking so bad.

64 posted on 10/07/2012 6:16:15 AM PDT by SCalGal (Friends don't let friends donate to H$U$, A$PCA, or PETA.)
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To: PubliusMM

That’s correct. It doesn’t really specify the location except within the designated perimeter.

I have a card that allows me to freely enter very large security area. They recently implemented a policy for visitors to sign at the exact location they are visiting. That means they have some problem with unauthorized wandering by visitors with the passes. They had the policy before but abandoned it. I suppose the problem is happening again.

For a school, the card entry data is important. It can be used as a roll. The calling of the roll becomes unnecessary. The computer knows who came and when and when they left. The numbers provide a record to be submitted for funds provided on a per capita basis. The data also are basis for truancy situations, for tardy problems and on and on.

For a manager, the principal, the auto collected data is a great tool. All the fear is ridiculous. The process is the way the world works now.


65 posted on 10/07/2012 6:16:50 AM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... Present failure and impending death yield irrational action))
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To: 21twelve

OMG(oodness) I haven’t thought about that song in a long time. It should be brought back, it was true then and gospil today. Who would’ve thunk.


66 posted on 10/07/2012 6:17:11 AM PDT by vortec94
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To: Nachum

Separate school and state. Before it is too late.


67 posted on 10/07/2012 6:21:40 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (The only wasted vote is one that doesn't represent you.)
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To: Roccus
----So long and thanks for (all) the fish.----

I'll trump that......

: )

68 posted on 10/07/2012 6:24:55 AM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... Present failure and impending death yield irrational action))
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To: EternalVigilance

“Conservatives” who can’t disconnect the cable to their liberal indoctrination and throw the TV out the door, and who continue to send their kids to the socialist breeding camps they call public schools, might as well have a chip implanted in there head right now, because they’re drones in denial.

What will you do when they decide to put these chips into your credit cards and drivers licenses? They’re already making transistors as thin as saran wrap. Do you think ethics are going to stop them?

I think it’s fair to say that part of the big push is that this school is a testing ground... but a testing ground for what?


69 posted on 10/07/2012 6:31:27 AM PDT by Tuanedge (Warriors victorious in a hundred battles, flee when a tiger enters their tent.)
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To: bert

FTA

On October 1, the schools went live with a program to use the chips to track the exact locations of students using the badges. The badges would even be able to tell if a student in a classroom is in his seat or somewhere else in the room.


70 posted on 10/07/2012 6:31:57 AM PDT by listenhillary (Courts, law enforcement, roads and national defense should be the extent of government)
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To: bert

FTA

Unlike chips used by retailers to track inventory which activate when scanned by a reader, these chips contain batteries and actively broadcast a continuous signal.


71 posted on 10/07/2012 6:32:47 AM PDT by listenhillary (Courts, law enforcement, roads and national defense should be the extent of government)
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To: IslamE

hippies were rebels because they were control freaks, only willing to do what they wanted to do and unwilling to conform to regular social strictures. Now they want to control everybody and demand that everybody renounce all social strictures, it will now be okay to have families with more than two parents, marriages with either sex and with more than two members, sex with children, steal if you are able. It is total anarchy these sickos want to impose.


72 posted on 10/07/2012 6:32:56 AM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: Tuanedge

I think we all know.


73 posted on 10/07/2012 6:33:15 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (The only wasted vote is one that doesn't represent you.)
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To: bert
It's NOT about the technology...it's about HOW it is used and WHO uses it. Just because it's stated reason for use is X, doesn't mean that reason will not change to Y. Remember, even though we are only dealing with a school principal here, it is still GOVERNMENT....and government ALWAYS strives for more and more control over the individual. Once a system is established, the government has scant aversion to changing the 'rules' of that system in order to attain whatever goals it desires.
One thing I learned in my three decades as a field tech, EVERYTHING looks good on paper

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74 posted on 10/07/2012 6:44:00 AM PDT by Roccus
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To: Nachum

Well then, parents get rid of this petty dictator wannabe. Organize a group, follow his every move and raise ‘ell about him to every elected official, at every meeting for the rest of his days. He’s full of his commie/fascist self and needs to depart.

If enough parents refuse the tracking device, he’s going to be very busy “punishing” everybody. Let him hang himself with his own big ego.


75 posted on 10/07/2012 6:48:41 AM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: Irenic
They didn’t want to release my son from their records

Exactly. Years ago when I was a teacher, I taught in an "inner-city" school. My classes had nearly 50 kids but only about 25 ever showed up. The kids that came would tell me a lot of these missing kids moved to other school districts or states.

I would tell the school, but they said they needed to keep the kids on the roster until THEY could determine why they were absent. It was rumored they marked them present a few days and gave them some non-failing grades to make it appear they were coming to class at times.

A lot of kids were being double- and triple-counted by schools so they can get their state aid. And, of course, it takes a LOOOONG time to figure that out.

76 posted on 10/07/2012 6:48:57 AM PDT by Right Wing Assault (Dick Obama is more inexperienced now than he was before he was elected.)
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To: Roccus; bert
Mid 80's, I'm installing a fiber system in a major brokerage house HQ. I have to tell the customer that they did not provide enough room in a closet for some equipment. The reply was, "But I saw a picture of it in a closet that size." My reply, "How about I show you a picture of a Buick in the closet?" What no one (sales, engineering, customer) had taken into account was how the equipment bay opened. Seat belts will NEVER be a primary offense. Income tax will be paid ONLY by the rich. SS #'s are NOT to be used as identification. The list goes ever on.
77 posted on 10/07/2012 6:55:12 AM PDT by Roccus
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To: bert

There are tens of millions of people using things like EZ-Pass that don’t require them to stop to pay the toll on a road. Of course, that means they could eventually be used to know where a lot of people are and where they have gone. And how far they drove. And how long it took them to get there. And what their average speed was. And so on.

Could be very useful info for some governments wishing to control people.


78 posted on 10/07/2012 6:58:24 AM PDT by Right Wing Assault (Dick Obama is more inexperienced now than he was before he was elected.)
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To: Nachum

I listened to an interview with the young lady last night and my blood was boiling. It’s all about the money the school district is set to receive. They strong-armed her pretty badly.


79 posted on 10/07/2012 7:09:58 AM PDT by dljordan (Voltaire: "To find out who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize.")
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To: Salgak

“Easy fix.

1. Place badge in microwave. 30 seconds on “high”

or

2. Place badge inside silvered electronics bag. Badge is visible, but faraday cage effect prevents RFID signal from getting out. . .”

Thank you for that simple solution. I wonder if the school has a Facebook site where your practical and cost effective approach can be communicated?


80 posted on 10/07/2012 7:29:45 AM PDT by Bshaw (A nefarious deceit is upon us all!)
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To: IslamE

The *free love*, the Earth Mother worship, the *no rules* anarchy, “sex, drugs and rock’n’roll, were all just the promotion, designed to recruit.

It was all fun for ten years or so and then, as they entered the real world and claimed their places in the elite hierarchies, they sprung the trap, keeping the masses with their STDs, their infanticide, their prison records,their lowered prospects and their damaged minds and bodies outside the pale of power.

At election time, they invoke those fun times, whip up enthusiasm, soothe with invocations of security, promise more free, low-quality everything and continue on secure in their own myth.

In other words, the entire hippie schtick was just a pose that garnered a new generation of elites a controllable mass of slaves.

Meet the new boss, same as the old boss.


81 posted on 10/07/2012 7:30:54 AM PDT by reformedliberal
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To: itssme

“There is, I believe, a clause in obomacare that states that patients will be micro-chipped for multiple reasons...can’t remember them exactly.”

The only way they will ever introduce a chip into my person, is if it’s attached to a bullet.

My God, in past years were these topics raised in the town square, the person making such utterances would have found it difficult to make it back to their home un-bloodied or worse.


82 posted on 10/07/2012 7:37:43 AM PDT by Bshaw (A nefarious deceit is upon us all!)
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To: Indika

“Clone the founders, teach them modern urban warfare. Problem solved.”

You could clone the men, however you could not recreate their education and experience under the king, so the clones would be bastardized beyond all recognition. Then we would have a new problem, not a solved problem.


83 posted on 10/07/2012 7:42:48 AM PDT by Bshaw (A nefarious deceit is upon us all!)
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To: mamelukesabre

I don’t know about that. When they first put magnetic strips in driver’s licenses, I heard that putting the license near a magnet would would make them where they could not be read. I took mine out and for a whole weekend placed a very strong magnet on top of them. It did not work. The best thing to do is resist.


84 posted on 10/07/2012 7:56:34 AM PDT by sport
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To: Jonty30

Hey, when we were homeschooling we made our kids wear RFIDs.

You never knew where they were going to sneak off to. ;o)


85 posted on 10/07/2012 7:58:31 AM PDT by super7man
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To: Salgak
Easy fix.

Take a shower and a bath with it....

86 posted on 10/07/2012 8:33:45 AM PDT by Nachum (The List was hacked- www.nachumlist.com)
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To: Nachum
The parents with kids in John Jay High School and Anson Jones Middle School should file a class action lawsuit against the school administration with the Northside Independent School District as a co-defendant.

Use the 2010 Robbins v. Lower Merion School District as part of your suit's justification. This is a total invasion of privacy of the students and needs to be squelched HARD. If the administration persecutes the students and the school board refuses to acknowledge the parents, then it's time to do some serious house cleaning by getting rid of these rats. The administrators responsible need to be fired and school board members who are too arrogant to listen to the parents’ concerns should be thrown out.

87 posted on 10/07/2012 8:47:09 AM PDT by MasterGunner01
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To: IslamE

“What is with hippies growing up to be fascists,...”


You might want to read Jonah Goldberg’s book ‘Liberal Fascism’, it is a real eye-opener.

Also search for “FBI informant Larry Grathwohl” to read about the Weather Underground plans to “eliminate 25 million people” in reeducation centers.

Liberalism poisons the soul.


88 posted on 10/07/2012 9:47:41 AM PDT by Peet (Everything has an end -- only the sausage has two.)
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To: jmax

“100 students go to local animal shelter, place ID cards on pets’ collars and then let them all out of their cages.”

etc.


Some clever students get together and offer a “service” For a fee, leave us your badge, and we’ll carry it with us. Members of the group swap badges once in a while to mix up the movements. Heck, if they’re real geeks and the number is high enough, they can work out a program to get the badges in the right classrooms.

THAT would be a great enterprise...


89 posted on 10/07/2012 10:17:10 AM PDT by Peet (Everything has an end -- only the sausage has two.)
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To: cableguymn
How in gods name is this happening in TEXAS?

TX has more nanny staters than you would believe. They are especially visible in the Austin area, but we've been invaded over the past few decades. After all, this is where the jobs are, so they bring their yankee notions along, and don't realize that it is their own fault their previous state was a jobless hell hole.

90 posted on 10/07/2012 10:47:31 AM PDT by zeugma (Rid the world of those savages. - Dorothy Woods, widow of a Navy Seal, AMEN!)
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To: Irenic
How does that make sense, exactly?! How?! The program will improve attendance and bring money to the school but they’re going to suspend or transfer students who won’t participate?! FINE them? FINE a student? Or do they mean the parent.

It makes complete sense, once you realize that the only thing those kids represent to the school is a pile of money. If they aren't there when state attendence is taken, the state doesn't pay the school for them. Ca$h is allowcated based on daily attendence figures. To a school official this is serious business. They don't notice (or don't care) if Johnny can't read, but when Johnny impacts their gravy train, watch out!

91 posted on 10/07/2012 10:53:47 AM PDT by zeugma (Rid the world of those savages. - Dorothy Woods, widow of a Navy Seal, AMEN!)
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To: sport

It takes a VERY strong magnet. STand near an MRI machine in a hospital when it is running and you will wipe your credit cards.


92 posted on 10/07/2012 2:12:23 PM PDT by mamelukesabre (oppan gangnam style!)
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To: bamahead

ping


93 posted on 10/07/2012 3:51:18 PM PDT by TheConservativeParty (Psalm 37:3 "Trust in The Lord.")
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To: bert
There is no big deal. The ID cards are ubiquitous and a good thing. The cards tell who entered what entry at what time and when they left.

Most important, a person without the card is denied entry.

True, so far as it goes...

Quoting the article: "During registration they were required to obtain new badges containing a radio frequency identification tracker chip."

If I'm reading this correctly, identification could be accomplished with a RFID chip programed with a student's number. However when you include a "tracker" function an ID chip will only tell you if student "A" is either in the building or not. Since the school has a monetary interest in eliminating truancy I would assume the new card includes GPS functionality to facilitate a roundup of stray students. They have bumped up quite a bit from a simple short range ID chip used to log in/out. That could easily become a major assault on an individual's right to privacy.

It doesn't take a lot of imagination to conjure up a nasty scenario wherein a pedophile hacks into the school network and uses the GPS data to select and track victims for instance.

If I'm wrong about the GPS and the only desire is to track students within the building it would be necessary to put RFID scanners on every door and window in the building and track each student as he/she entered and proceeded from hall to room and back to hall. The next question is what do you do if someone does not come back from lunch? Suppose someone log in through the front door, wraps his card in foil and then leaves through a side door. The fire code will never allow you to have locked exit doors or turnstiles so there is nothing to prevent a student leaving without using his/her card! Tons of money expended on a system that doesn't do much to solve the stated problem.

Regards,
GtG

PS Hint: If you want to get back in w/o using your card, an 1/8" allen wrench is all you need to disable a crash bar door lock on your way out.

94 posted on 10/07/2012 4:04:41 PM PDT by Gandalf_The_Gray (I live in my own little world, I like it 'cuz they know me here.)
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To: cableguymn

Government schools shouldn’t be allowed anywhere. By what right do these government idiots tell us what to do , tell our kids they have to attend a government school for 12 years (where they can’t even teach them basic geography in 12 years), or they will imprison the parents? It boggles my mind that people tolerate government schools in the first place. Do they not realize that government is evil, that it should be limited , and is terribly inefficient, corrupt? wtf?

Obamacare is government limiting our freedom of choice and is socialism taking over our healthcare..

Government is too big already, this expansion of government , this takeover of healthcare is tyranny.

Government is the problem and it has grown at all levels every single year, every month for the last 100 years.

They are tracking our kids in schools with smart IDs, Moochel is telling kids what they can eat, Bloomberg banned big sodas in New York, Obama took over our healthcare, They banned 100 watt light-bulbs , they tell us that we have to discriminate to hire people (affirmative action), soon cars will have to be 27 mpg , etc. This crap has to stop.

I started to write a first draft on how to finally limit government for the first time ever. something has to be done as the problem is government. It’s in personal page here.
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95 posted on 10/11/2012 5:54:28 AM PDT by Democrat_media (limit government to 5000 words of laws. Quantify limited government)
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To: cableguymn
How in gods name is this happening in TEXAS?

I mean some NE state sure..

It’s TEXAS for Pete’s sake!

Where is the pitch forks?

Where is the torches?


If you are talking about the state of Texas that I happen to live in, this is the same Texas that was keeping DNA samples from the blood draws they do on newborn infants without telling parents that they were keeping them, and was willing to go to court to keep on doing it.

http://www.kxan.com/dpp/news/texas/settlement-in-newborn-dna-lawsuit

The state will destroy all DNA samples taken from newborns without parental consent between the years 2002 and 2005, officials announced Tuesday.

The movement settles a lawsuit filed by parents against the Texas Department of Health Services and Texas A&M for secretly storing and doing research on newborn blood samples.

The destruction of 4.5 million samples will be complete within 120 days.

Every baby in Texas is screened for 29 birth defects. Parents in this lawsuit do not have a problem with that. But in 2002, the state decided to keep the blood samples, without the parents' consent, to use for research and other unnamed reasons.

"You have to give permission for them to give your kid formula in the hospital. I don't understand why you don't have to give permission for the state to keep your kid's DNA," said Andrea Beleno, mother involved in the lawsuit. "I was really stunned, and I was very upset to learn that this was going on."


This is also the same Texas that will soon be a Democrat state once more, now that the demographics have shifted and Texas is a minority-majority state and the Democrats have been kissing up to the Hispanics. We will probably only have 2016 and maybe 2020 (at the latest) before Texas electoral votes start going to a (D).
96 posted on 10/12/2012 7:10:53 AM PDT by af_vet_rr
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To: Irenic
So is the state completely power hungry or is there also some businesses getting fat and greasing the palms of these POS school ‘officials’?! Stealing and wasting tax payer dollars and children’s education dollars. One, the other or both?

It's a serious problem with school funding, when a state (or the federal government in No Child Left Behind, which was based on Texas) can dictate what goes on in local school. It creates these kinds of situations.

However, I bet the company involved with supplying the equipment also donated to the right politicians to as well, who then leaned on the district. That kind of thing happens a lot - homebuilders and grocery store chains donate to politicians who support their pro-illegal alien stances, etc.
97 posted on 10/12/2012 7:15:23 AM PDT by af_vet_rr
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To: bgill
Look who the mayor is in San Antonio. That could be a big part of this. Mayor Castro is uber lib and his mama is a La Raza member. http://rockwallconservative.me/2012/09/06/san-antonio-do-you-know-the-mother-of-your-mayor/

It's a shame about the school, because they used to have one helluva AFJROTC program, regularly averaging 500+ students and winning a lot of competitions and producing some fine graduates.

However, I'd be careful about bringing La Raza into this, the Rick Perry Fan Brigade gets a little testy about La Raza since he's a huge fan of La Raza.
98 posted on 10/12/2012 7:19:09 AM PDT by af_vet_rr
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To: af_vet_rr

Bring ‘em on. I’m not a big fan of either.


99 posted on 10/12/2012 11:15:43 AM PDT by bgill
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To: Nachum
Wear radio chip or leave

I would rejoice to be given that second choice. Hated every moment of school from 6th grade on (until college).

100 posted on 10/12/2012 11:33:49 AM PDT by steve86 (Acerbic by nature not nurture TM)
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