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Update: mountain lion killed in Des Moines neighborhood
Radio Iowa ^ | 10.4.12 | Pat Curtis

Posted on 10/07/2012 7:22:10 AM PDT by Free Vulcan

Police shot and killed a mountain lion this morning in Des Moines.

Kevin Baskins, with the Iowa Department of Natural Resources, says it’s extremely unusual for such an animal to end up in a residential neighborhood.

“Certainly, we see the occasional mountain lion wander through the state of Iowa, but to the best of our knowledge, we really have not seen one in urban setting like Des Moines,” Baskins said.

”The only explanation we can think of is that mountain lions will follow river corridors and the river is in fairly close proximity to where this cat got shot.”

The mountain lion was spotted by a man in the backyard of his home, located on Des Moines’ northeast side, at 9:30 a.m. Around two hours earlier, police had received reports of a mountain lion near an elementary school.

Baskins said officers had little choice but to shoot the animal, given it’s size and the fact that it was in a residential area near two schools. But, he notes mountain lions aren’t considered a great threat to humans.

“Mountain lions generally tend to avoid people as much as possible,” Baskins said. “In Iowa, we’ve yet to have a documented case of a mountain lion attack on a human.”

The young male cat shot in Des Moines measured six feet, three inches from nose to tail and weighed over 70 pounds. “A full grown male mountain lion can weigh 140 to 160 pounds, so this one may have had his full height, but probably still had some room to grow,” Baskins said.

Mountain lions are no stranger to rural areas of Iowa as they’re pushed out of the Black Hills or mountainous regions to the west. A mountain lion can move several hundred miles in just a few days.

The lion shot in Des Moines is now being examined by the DNR. “One of the things we look at when we get an animal like this is the stomach contents to see what kind of diet it had just prior to being killed,” Baskins said. “I know in the past, it’s been mostly rabbits, mice and squirrels.”


TOPICS: Culture/Society; US: Iowa
KEYWORDS: cougar; midwest; predator; wildlife
Have to realize that up to now, the Iowa DNR has said there are NO mountain lions in Iowa. Des Moines is near the center of the state. Guess that shoots that theory...

On a side note, word on the street down here is that the Missouri DNR have secretly and illegally released cougars in the NE part of the state, where they obviously migrated to ours. Have heard rumors of the same about wolves, but they have not turned up as of yet.

1 posted on 10/07/2012 7:22:22 AM PDT by Free Vulcan
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To: Free Vulcan

Too bad...if the headline writer had used “cougar” instead of “mountain lion”..you’d have 200 replies and 50 pics on this thread..


2 posted on 10/07/2012 7:26:22 AM PDT by ken5050 (Barack Obama: An empty suit sitting in an empty chair...)
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To: Free Vulcan

The lion shot in Des Moines is now being examined by the DNR. “One of the things we look at when we get an animal like this is the stomach contents to see what kind of diet it had just prior to being killed,” Baskins said. “I know in the past, it’s been mostly rabbits, mice and squirrels.”

If it had been the lion that was visiting my ranch here in New Mexico a couple weeks ago they would have found some of my sheep in its belly.


3 posted on 10/07/2012 7:32:38 AM PDT by Carthego delenda est
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To: Slings and Arrows

Big Kitty ping!


4 posted on 10/07/2012 7:37:41 AM PDT by afraidfortherepublic (Joe Biden is reported to be seeking asylum in a foreign country so he does not have to debate Ryan.)
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To: Free Vulcan

Well good for them. They got to shoot something that day and it wasn’t a dog.


5 posted on 10/07/2012 7:37:58 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: Free Vulcan

Probably someones pet they raised from a cub that got loose


6 posted on 10/07/2012 7:38:22 AM PDT by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama lied .. the economy died.)
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To: Free Vulcan
"“One of the things we look at when we get an animal like this is the stomach contents to see what kind of diet it had just prior to being killed,”"


7 posted on 10/07/2012 7:42:22 AM PDT by Rebelbase (The most transparent administration ever is clear as mud.)
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To: Free Vulcan
Have to realize that up to now, the Iowa DNR has said there are NO mountain lions in Iowa.

The wildlife experts in Kansas and Missouri said the same thing for years including the escaped pet nonsense (the dog ate my homework). Finally, they had to admit that these critters are living among us, and they are reproducing. My neighbor lost two pigs a few years back to an adult and a cub judging from the size of the paw prints.

8 posted on 10/07/2012 7:49:33 AM PDT by centurion316
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To: Free Vulcan

“What do you need those rifles for? The deer are all gone.”


9 posted on 10/07/2012 7:52:44 AM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: Free Vulcan
Awe...poor kitty. Eight years ago a mountain lion was sitting in a tree in Palo Alto near a school waiting for lunch to come out of their classrooms. Animal Control killed him and the local liberals (ie, everybody in Palo Alto) got REALLY upset that the poor widdle kitty was killed.

Mountain lion shot and killed
Palo Alto visit fatal to cougar / Cop shoots cat near schools and residences Read more: http://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/article/Palo-Alto-visit-fatal-to-cougar-Cop-shoots-cat-2776914.php#ixzz28coyEDXe

10 posted on 10/07/2012 7:56:50 AM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: Free Vulcan
“Police shot and killed a mountain lion this morning in Des Moines”

They probably mistook it for a dog.

11 posted on 10/07/2012 8:01:49 AM PDT by Tupelo (Republicans, ...Are any of them worthy of my vote?)
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To: Free Vulcan

That is obviously not a mountain lion, that is a great plains lion


12 posted on 10/07/2012 8:03:38 AM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... Present failure and impending death yield irrational action))
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To: Free Vulcan

Jobs must be getting scarce in the woods.


13 posted on 10/07/2012 8:05:37 AM PDT by TangoLimaSierra (To the left the truth looks like Right-Wing extremism.)
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To: Free Vulcan
The only explanation we can think of is that mountain lions will follow river corridors and the river is in fairly close proximity to where this cat got shot.”...

How about plenty of cats and dogs for easy pickings

14 posted on 10/07/2012 8:10:41 AM PDT by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never forget)
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To: Free Vulcan

It was all for the children, you know.


15 posted on 10/07/2012 8:10:49 AM PDT by OldPossum
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To: Free Vulcan

Basically, the DNR denies the existence of such predators because an admission of such would open a bureaucratic can of worms they’d rather not deal with.


16 posted on 10/07/2012 8:17:37 AM PDT by Freedom4US
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To: Free Vulcan
Actually, there have been sightings for about 10 years now, and one was killed by a car just north of Des Moines about 6-7 years ago.

There have been lots of reports about coyote invasions, and there was a moose seen in NE Iowa a few years ago. It's good that large wildlife is returning to Iowa. I'll only get nervous when there are reports of bears and wolves.

17 posted on 10/07/2012 8:30:43 AM PDT by VanShuyten ("a shadow...draped nobly in the folds of a gorgeous eloquence.")
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To: Free Vulcan

Why kill it????


18 posted on 10/07/2012 8:34:28 AM PDT by Doc Savage ("I've shot people I like a lot more,...for a lot less!" Raylan Givins)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

Sounds like something in Dallas a few years ago. A large gorilla at the zoo escaped its enclosure and ended up being shot and killed. The local animal worshippers held a candlelight vigil at City Hall in its memory.


19 posted on 10/07/2012 8:39:35 AM PDT by ken in texas (I was taught to respect my elders but it keeps getting harder to find any.)
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To: Free Vulcan
Kevin Baskins, with the Iowa Department of Natural Resources, says it’s extremely unusual for such an animal to end up in a residential neighborhood. “Certainly, we see the occasional mountain lion wander through the state of Iowa, but to the best of our knowledge, we really have not seen one in urban setting like Des Moines,” Baskins said.

In 2006 the Sioux City Police shot a cougar that had denned up in a city park. The I-DNR was all agog, then, about how there were no restrictions on killing mountain lion in Iowa as the species was considered a non indigenous predator, at the same level as a coyote. Any caliber weapon, permission from the landowner to shoot on private property.

20 posted on 10/07/2012 8:47:23 AM PDT by woofer
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To: Freedom4US
"DNR denies"

A year or so ago in Wisconsin, residents of some separate western Wisconsin localities reported seeing what looked like to them a mountain lion. The state DNR fiercely denied the reports saying those people had to be mistaken. Later photographic evidence turned up showing it was indeed a mountain lion. Then the DNR did some blustering about how it was just a rare lion wandering far from home. To which the proper reply was: and so what? It was in fact a ml, and the state DNR was wrong. Why they went to such headed efforts to deny the possibility is mystifying. More mls have been reported since then.

21 posted on 10/07/2012 8:57:26 AM PDT by driftless2
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To: driftless2

that’s heated efforts.... not headed efforts


22 posted on 10/07/2012 9:03:30 AM PDT by driftless2
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To: driftless2

Ask yourself, can you (legally) hunt something that doesn’t “officially” exist? Once they allow that extirpated species have returned then they have to set bag limits, seasons, licensing, etc, and that’s after the fern-feelers have filed a bazillion lawsuits. It’s just a lot of trouble. Yeah, it’s their job.


23 posted on 10/07/2012 9:11:45 AM PDT by Freedom4US
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To: Free Vulcan

Family members who farm in the Loess Hills have spotted the big cats a number of times.

I live about halfway between there and Des Moines. And there is no reason they wouldn’t be around here either. Cedar Creek is just east of town, and we’re only a few miles from the Raccoon River as well. Fine corridors for them.

Two winters back we lost one of our best pups. She was a beaut. I let her out the back door and within a minute she was just GONE without a trace. I blamed in on either a coyote or an owl, but it could have just as easily been a mountain lion.


24 posted on 10/07/2012 9:24:29 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (The only wasted vote is one that doesn't represent you.)
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To: TexasFreeper2009

It’s pretty easy to tell a human-raised mountain lion from a wild one. This was a year-and-a-half old male, just the type known for range-expansion.

Not even the Gaia-worshiping DNR claims this was a pet, who are usually older and flabby with bad teeth.

It’s from the breeders that the DNR brought into the state but won’t admit because they didn’t have legislative authority to do so.

This was an urban park not far from an elementary school.


25 posted on 10/07/2012 10:05:05 AM PDT by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: Free Vulcan

Mountain lions do actually kill jumans.

A lady jogging on trails south of Auburn, Calif got taken & mauled/killed about 12 years ago. She also had made the mistake of jogging with HEADPHONES on.


26 posted on 10/07/2012 10:19:55 AM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: VanShuyten
There have been lots of reports about coyote invasions, and there was a moose seen in NE Iowa a few years ago.

Did the moose bite anyone's sister?

Mark

You had to know THAT was coming...

27 posted on 10/07/2012 10:22:42 AM PDT by MarkL (Do I really look like a guy with a plan?)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

This is why you should keep your cats inside!


28 posted on 10/07/2012 10:24:27 AM PDT by Slings and Arrows (You can't have IngSoc without an Emmanuel Goldstein.)
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To: centurion316
Connecticut DEP officials refused to even consider the idea of a mountain lion living in the state. They ridiculed and laughed at people who reported seeing mountain lions in their area. Then a mountain lion turned up in Greenwich as roadkill and showed who was really lying.
29 posted on 10/07/2012 11:20:56 AM PDT by peeps36 (America is being destroyed by filthy traitors in the political establishment)
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To: Free Vulcan

How can there be mountain lions in Iowa when there are no mountains there? The state is as flat as a pancake.


30 posted on 10/07/2012 11:40:04 AM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: Free Vulcan
“One of the things we look at when we get an animal like this is the stomach contents to see what kind of diet it had just prior to being killed,” Baskins said. “I know in the past, it’s been mostly rabbits, mice and squirrels.”

If things continue like this, I know in the future it could very well be mostly surprised liberal faces. Because big cats go for easy prey and libs are slow, flabby, not able to fight, oblivious, and at dawn and dusk love to stroll through beautiful natural settings populated by lots of adorable pretty kitties.

31 posted on 10/07/2012 11:52:20 AM PDT by LibWhacker
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To: Verginius Rufus

I think you have us confused with Illinois.


32 posted on 10/07/2012 12:24:13 PM PDT by Free Vulcan (Election 2012 - America stands or falls. No more excuses. Get involved.)
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To: centurion316

That’s because they DNR often secretly lets the animals loose. Missouri has for sure.


33 posted on 10/07/2012 12:33:39 PM PDT by Free Vulcan (Election 2012 - America stands or falls. No more excuses. Get involved.)
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To: Rebelbase

Well, you have to admit she is dressed provocatively. /s


34 posted on 10/07/2012 12:37:02 PM PDT by PLMerite (Shut the Beyotch Down! Burn, baby, burn!)
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To: Freedom4US

It was an “unexpected” mountain lion. I wonder if they were keeping this on the job rolls.


35 posted on 10/07/2012 12:39:06 PM PDT by PLMerite (Shut the Beyotch Down! Burn, baby, burn!)
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To: PLMerite

LOL


36 posted on 10/07/2012 12:44:44 PM PDT by Rebelbase (The most transparent administration ever is clear as mud.)
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To: bert
That is obviously not a mountain lion, that is a great plains lion.
As long as it's not a Canadian cougar.


37 posted on 10/07/2012 12:59:30 PM PDT by Bratch
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To: ridesthemiles
A lady jogging on trails south of Auburn, Calif got taken & mauled/killed about 12 years ago. She also had made the mistake of jogging with HEADPHONES on.

As I recall, there was a fund set up to help the woman's children, and the bunny huggers also set up a fund to care for the cubs. And the bunny huggers fund collected a LOT more money.

Mark

38 posted on 10/07/2012 1:00:27 PM PDT by MarkL (Do I really look like a guy with a plan?)
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To: Verginius Rufus
The state is as flat as a pancake.

A common belief, but wrong. Most of the state is rolling hills.


39 posted on 10/07/2012 5:11:24 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (The only wasted vote is one that doesn't represent you.)
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To: PLMerite

The original range of the ‘mountain lion’ covered all of the USA. Like elk and some other critters we think of as mountain-dwellers, they were actually almost everywhere and driven into mountainous refuge.


40 posted on 10/07/2012 5:58:39 PM PDT by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: Doc Savage
“Why kill it????”

You are joking I hope. It was 2 blocks from an elementary school and 4 blocks from a middle school.

Some non thinking folks here thought they should have tranquilized it. They didn't stop to think about what if that had failed, and the cat had escaped in a dense residential area with kids all around.

There was a reason our ancestors got rid of these things.

41 posted on 10/07/2012 6:05:32 PM PDT by HereInTheHeartland (Encourage all of your Democrat friends to get out and vote on November 7th, the stakes are high.)
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To: HereInTheHeartland

Yep. I don’t want ‘em anywhere near me or my kids.

If I did I’d move out west.


42 posted on 10/07/2012 6:16:12 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (The only wasted vote is one that doesn't represent you.)
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To: HereInTheHeartland

Yep. I don’t want ‘em anywhere near me or my kids.

If I did I’d move out west.


43 posted on 10/07/2012 6:22:46 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (The only wasted vote is one that doesn't represent you.)
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To: HereInTheHeartland

Yep. I don’t want ‘em anywhere near me or my kids.

If I did I’d move out west.


44 posted on 10/07/2012 6:22:55 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (The only wasted vote is one that doesn't represent you.)
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To: Verginius Rufus
How can there be mountain lions in Iowa when there are no mountains there?

Would you prefer that they called it a puma, a panther, or a cougar?

45 posted on 10/07/2012 6:24:50 PM PDT by afraidfortherepublic (Joe Biden is reported to be seeking asylum in a foreign country so he does not have to debate Ryan.)
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To: EternalVigilance
I just remember it as being pretty flat when I lived there. That was a long time ago--I guess global warming has caused the landscape to buckle since then.

The highest point in the state is 1670 ft above sea level and the lowest point is 480 ft. So it is less flat than Illinois, Indiana, Ohio, Louisiana, Mississippi, Florida, Delaware, or Rhode Island.

46 posted on 10/07/2012 10:11:10 PM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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