Skip to comments.Obama, Who's Your Daddy?
Posted on 10/07/2012 4:45:12 PM PDT by Kukai
Why are people still talking about the birther issue? Congress and the Supreme Court have said they're not looking into it. But this issue clearly still has legs.
According to Adam Berinsky, a professor of political science at MIT, the birther issue never really went away. He's been conducting polls on the birthplace issue, which he compiled in an article called "The Birthers are (Still) Back." To wit, a lot of Americans continue to have doubts about Obama.
For the last four years, Barack Obama has been plagued by rumors that he is not a natural-born citizen of the United States and, as a result, is not eligible to serve as president. These rumors continue to show surprising resilience.
But what Berlinsky did in his polling was what the progressive defenders of the faith have always done: confused the birthplace question with other questions regarding Obama's eligibility to hold office. To many, the issue isn't where he was born. The question is, who is his father? And is Obama a natural born citizen, since his father was not a U.S. citizen?
Barack Hussein Obama has spent about two million dollars to keep the American people from taking a peek at his original long-form birth certificate. Nobody spends that kind of money unless there's something really damning he wants to hide.
(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...
Unless I missed it, the article doesn’t mention the fact that Stanley Ann never lived with Barack Obama Sr. She took Barry to Seattle when he was less than one month old and enrolled in the University of WA.
I have also read that an unmarried woman was not permitted to use the name of the baby’s father on the birth certificate in Hawaii at the time of Obama’s birth. So, the last name would have been Dunham, Barry Dunham.
Obama suck up sites such as Snopes have tried to hide the truth about this by a bait and switch tactic with a nude model of the 50s named Macy or some other. One person posting in Free Republic even had a picture of this Macy woman, pretending it was a picture of Stanley Anne Dunham.
Gilbert's theory certainly makes sense to me.
Compelling argument that it’s Frank M Davis ...
Steven Barnard Dunham actually ...
Sorry but frank davis and obama look nothing alike. Check out malcolm x and see if he resembles obama
He obviously lied on all his college applications in the same way that Warren did in MA. He obviously claimed to be a poor, foreign student in need of both money and affirmative action. Did he lie? Is he really the son of FMD and lied on his applications, passport etc???? All we really know is that he a faggot lying son of a bitch who has NEVER told the truth.
Malcolm X and Obama look a lot alike. However, apparently Ann’s and Malcolm’s traceable steps, at the time, do not fit.
However, another possible answer is the grandfather. If you look at a young Obama and a young Stanley Durham, there is enough resemblance that they could be brothers.
All this time I thought it was ...who yo daddy.
Pause this video at 2:19, study the side-by-side images and get back to me. The mouth area especially is striking in its similarity.
Additionally, being 1/2 white himself, if MX had fathered BHO on lily-white SAD, then BHO would almost certainly be even lighter of complexion than he already is.
I own and have watched "Dreams from My Real Father." Have you seen the film? It's posits make a heckuva lot more sense than any MX involvement in the "Obama" nativity story.
Really, the name on Obama birth certificate was Stephen? How do you know that?
Stanley Ann was one hell of a skank.
Not Stephen, Steven ... and it really doesn’t matter how I know that, at this late stage. Super 8 movie film of his birth in Canada could be shown to the SCOTUS and nothing would be done about his illegitimacy. He is the ultimate affirmative action promotion and those who promoted him are not about to expose their own violation of oath to Our Constitution.
I think you are one to something here. Your pictures are worth a thousand words, no five thousand words! Four years ago (2008) I was asking “where is your birth certificate?” And once again in 2012 I’m asking “show us your dam Birth Certificate!”
Looks like all the work that has been done to flush out this phony out of office has been for naught. Why dosen’t anyone have the guts to listen to the evidence.
The heavy crease in the upper lip is kinda odd isn’t it? And both Barack and Frank have a very pronounced crease.
Darn autocorrect feature. :(
I don’t usually put much store in this...but I just compared Obama’s eyes to Davis’ eyes, and was surprised.
Barry had a nose job, the resemblance to FMD is even greater.
I think Joel Gilbert has made a good circumstantial case that Frank Marshall Davis is Obama’s biological father. There is no question that the communist agitator, Davis, is Obama ideological fatherand not the Kenyan Muslim anti-colonialist.
Some of the evidence presented in the DVD is good, new documentary evidence. Some is speculative and circumstantial. The combined effect is a compellingbut not definitiveargument that Frank Marshall Davis is Obama’s real father. I think the family resemblance between Obama and Davis is strikingand said so in my article.
Joel has since sent me additional evidence linking Stanley Ann Dunham even more closely to the nude photos that Davis took. Not conclusive but it does add to the growing stack of evidence.
Joel may well be onto the truth in this matter. Time will tell.
There is this for all Freepers to consider: Information is coming out of the woodwork about Obama. Bombshell stuff.
I think it will make all the difference in this election, one result of which will be the total condemnation of the reprobate mainstream media and their comrades in the Democratic Party.
P.S. Lostinzombieland.com is the web site for my satire on Obama.
What convinced me was obviously a photo of malcolm x in which the resemblance was so striking that the caption read “ obama as malcolm x”
This photo has been wiped off the internent
Yup. A lot of those nude pics of Stanley Ann Dunham were taken in Davis' personal residence. Something was going on between them.
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"There is this for all Freepers to consider: Information is coming out of the woodwork about Obama. Bombshell stuff."
I eagerly await further revelations. Whether they come out before or after the election is nearly irrelevant at this point; I simply want the truth. Justice would be a nice bonus.
a computer generated document whose notary said she NEVER signed it.
either admit to having NO documentation ... or DEMAND 0bama submit it officially
which is it?
Strap yourself in.
Photos, articles and web pages get scrubbed from the interent all the time. I even have a damning article posted by FoxNews that I saved that got scrubbed just hours after I saved it. Why would FoxNews scrub an article exposing Obama? The bad guys got their hooks into practically every organization out there.
I learned soon after hussein got elected to save any photo or damning article or web page regarding him in case it got scrubbed. I advise everyone to do the same. Then, if something gets scrubbed, you can put it back out there out on the internet against the wishes of those who tried to scrub the information!
And oh yea, there are ways to save web pages and photos on sites where the web page script prevents these actions. It's simply a matter of disabling "scripting" in your browser settings.
That line in the center of the upper lip is identicle. I didn’t even really care about the subject of who husseins “real” father is, as it seems irrelevant compared to everything else. But it seems like communist freak FMD may very well be husseins daddy. As opposed to communist freak Barack senior being his daddy. Amusing. But irrelevant.
If you're interested in the truth, read this and the entire seven part series. There is very little truth in Gilbert's "documentary".
Fever Dreams From My Real Father #1: The Nude Photos Debunked
Barackryphal ^ | 10/03/12 | Loren Collins
Posted on 10/03/2012 7:12:56 AM PDT by Tex-Con-Man
At the center of Gilbert's theory that Frank Marshall Davis is Obama's father is a series of nude and fetish photographs. They were the focus of his second promotional video for the DVD. They're featured prominently on his website, and he consistently references them in radio interviews. Radio host Peter Boyles has called them the "Rosetta Stone" that will unlock Obama's secret past, and Alex Jones declared "It's her in these photos."
The "her" to which Jones refers is Obama's mother Ann Dunham, who Gilbert claims is the woman depicted in these photos. Three of the photos were originally posted on the website of The Astute Bloggers in October 2008, where it was claimed that they had been forwarded by a reader. Even though one photo plainly bore a watermark of "free-vintage-porn.com", some people were convinced that the photos were of Ann Dunham. Over time, the claim evolved so that it was Frank Marshall Davis who was said to have taken the photos as well (perhaps an unsurprising development, as The Astute Bloggers website was also responsible for starting the rumor that Frank was Obama's father).
Here's what the narrator of Dreams From My Real Father has to say on the matter:
"At some point, she agreed to pose. These photos were taken a few weeks before Christmas 1960, when Mom was about five weeks pregnant with me. There's no mistaking: this is MY mama."Gilbert has further elaborated on the photos outside the film itself. In his website Q&A:
I also obtained seven indecent photos of Ann Dunham, Obama’s mother, taken at Frank Marshall Davis’ house, suggesting an intimate connection between Dunham and Davis...On the 'Breaking News' portion of his website:
What new revelations are in Dreams from My Real Father?
First, I make the case that Barack Obama’s real father was Communist Frank Marshall Davis. Next, the relationship between Davis and Obama’s mother, Ann Dunham, is illustrated with seven indecent photographs of Dunham, some including other women, taken at Frank Marshall Davis’ house in Honolulu.
Racy photos of Barack Obama's mother, Ann Dunham, have recently surfaced in vintage fetish and bondage magazines. The photos, taken at Frank Marshall Davis' house in Honolulu, appeared in Bizarre Life, Exotique, Secret Pleasures, and Battling Babes.And in interviews:
But if you look at the many, many photos of Ann Dunham and the naked girl in the pictures -- especially you can see her teeth; she has some recessed teeth on the left side -- it's very obviously Ann Dunham.
Most people didn't take the photo claim very seriously, because the woman in the pictures doesn't really look all that much like Ann Dunham. Sure, she bears a passing resemblance, in the same sense that as a bespectacled young white guy, I bear a passing resemblance to Daniel Radcliffe. Frankly, the woman in the photos looks a lot more like Joan Collins than Ann Dunham.
Since their original appearance in 2008, some have attempted to debunk the photos by identifying the model. This has proven fruitless, and unsurprisingly so; many mid-century nude and fetish models were nameless faces, anonymous to the world at large.
To his credit, Gilbert did somehow locate additional photos of the mystery woman he claims is Ann. And as noted above, he named several magazines where he claims they appeared. Both on his website and in Dreams, he shows the covers of six specific issues, and the website (on the right) flatly states "Frank Marshall Davis' photos of Ann Dunham appear in these vintage men's magazines." The magazines Gilbert shows are:
Bizarre Life #9
The last three magazines were published in 1958, 1957, and 1969, respectively. Exotique was published between 1955 and 1959.
Curiously, though, the pictures Gilbert shows appear in NONE of the issues he identifies. I consulted with the owner of a fansite for these magazines, who checked and confirmed that Gilbert's photos are nowhere to be seen in these issues. I personally reviewed copies of Exotique #14, Battling Babes and Secret Pleasures, and they included NO pictures of the mystery model.
What Secret Pleasures DID feature, on page 26, was this photo:
Who is the woman? I have no idea. But look at the chair she's seated on. At the pillow in the chair. At the window behind her. At the record player to her right, and the records peeking out below her leg. At the cabinet behind her, and at the floor beneath her. Look familiar?
That's right, it's the exact same setting as the 'Ann' photos. Published in a 1958 men's magazine. And it's not the only one. From Exotique #25, pages 7 and 40, respectively:
Again, does that setting look familiar? Same couch, same floor, same picture on the wall, even the same random pillow arrangement on top of the couch as seen in other photos in Gilbert's videos. The woman is even wearing the same spiked-ball earrings as Gilbert's 'Ann'. Who is she? I don't know, but she looks an awful lot like the woman who appears with Gilbert's 'Ann' in several photos in his movie.
Now granted, these photos alone don't prove that the mystery model couldn't be Ann. Perhaps Davis took these in 1958, and he didn't change the arrangement of his room for two years. That's odd, and hardly the most compelling explanation, but it's not impossible. (Even though Gilbert himself would likely concede that these are from the same photoshoot.)
Unfortunately for Gilbert, that's not all. Further up this post, there's a screenshot of Gilbert's own website, with a video still that shows the woman he claims is 'Ann' sitting on a couch, pulling a black opera glove onto her left arm. That image appears in Gilbert's Dreams and in his promotional videos as well, but he's never released a full-size copy of that photo.
I found one, however:
This picture appeared in Exotique #23, on page 22. In 1958. When Ann Dunham was only 15 years old. Two years before Ann Dunham even moved to Hawaii.
It can also be found reprinted in volume 2 of the 3-volume Exotique hardcover collection.
We may never know who the mystery model is. But the Dunham family didn't move to Hawaii until the summer of 1960. Unless Ann Dunham had access to a time machine in the 1960s, it simply cannot be her.
Moreover, Joel Gilbert knows this. He found that opera glove photo; it was not circulating the web as an 'Ann' photo prior to his videos. He knows it came from Exotique, a magazine that ceased publication in 1959. From WND: "Gilbert found that several of the photos in the collection appeared in a magazine called Exotique, published by pin-up photographer Leonard Burtman, who worked in New York City."
Thus he knows this picture was published two years before Ann first stepped foot in Hawaii, years before she could have met Frank Marshall Davis. And yet he explicitly claims, multiple times, that the photo was TAKEN at Christmastime 1960. This is not a lie of ignorance or mistake; it is a lie of pure, fully-informed malice.
And that's the BEST-case scenario for Gilbert. Gilbert knows that Ann was born in 1942, and he knows he found these pictures in 1958 magazines. If Gilbert truly believes that these ARE somehow pictures of a 15-year-old Ann, then he's been distributing hundreds of thousands of DVDs featuring nude and erotic pictures of someone he believes to be an underage girl.
Perhaps unsurprisingly, Gilbert has thus far refused to disclose the actual sources of the erotic photos he put in his videos. He identified six issues, none of which checked out, and five of which contradict his 1960 date anyway. As shown above, to disclose the true issues would be to destroy his own claim that the photos are of Ann, and to let his audience know that he's lying to them. And so he refuses to cite his sources, even when they're just magazine issue numbers.
So there you have it. The people who've said 'Frank Davis took naked pictures of Stanley Ann Dunham in December of 1960' are provably wrong. The woman they claim is Ann was having her photographs from this very shoot published at least as early as 1958. When Ann was a 15-year-old in Washington, years before she ever stepped foot on Hawaii or could have conceivably even met Frank Marshall Davis. Joel Gilbert has unnecessarily obscured the actual publication dates of the pictures he found, because he knows those simple facts will prove to everyone that he's lying about them being taken in 1960, and lying about Frank Marshall Davis taking them of Ann, and lying about them being evidence of an intimate relationship between Frank and Ann.
As I wrote in my first post in this series, "I can't promise that I'll convince everyone that Joel Gilbert is a charlatan and his film is a joke, but I think by this time next week, anyone who continues to trust Gilbert has some depressingly low standards for what they'll believe." I'm sure some people will still prefer to believe in him and his photos, and nothing will convince them otherwise. To them, I can only say this: just as Joel Gilbert has known for months, you now know that his photos were being published in 1958. Possibly even earlier. So if you still want to believe that the woman in those photos is Ann Dunham, that means you also have to believe that the woman in those photos is no more than 15 years old. Keep that in mind as you talk about them, and post them online, and save them on your computer. I know you're not doing anything illegal or morally disgusting (because it's not Ann), but what are you telling yourselves?
Finally, even though I've reached #1 in this series and I think I've solidly proven my case, I had two more research developments on Monday that I'll be typing up in the next few days. So be sure to keep an eye out for those to come.
The rest of the story...
And Loren even talked to the actual owner of the home...
Even though the article is by a zotted idiot, he has some things correct. If the photos are of “Ann” (where did the “Stanley” go?), some were published in 1958.
It’s patently obvious the photos are not SAD. Even someone as “anti-birther” as LorenC got it right.
BO could have cleared up the birther issue immediately and before the election. I mean, who doesn’t have a copy of their birth certificate? All he had to do was take a picture of it with his phone and upload it to a website.
“2016” has an interview with George Obama. George Obama is the spitting image of Barack Obama. That settled the daddy issue for me.
It's not "a piece of obvious propaganda" simply because you (one of the most vociferous "anti-birthers" in all of FR-dom) and a Zotted Obot Fogblower say it is.
This may come as a shock to you, but your own credibility and true motivations regarding pretty much anything touching on "Obama"'s true identity and his eligibility to hold the office he currently enjoys are, shall we say, suspect. Heck, you probably think the findings of Joe Arpaio's Cold Case Posse are bunk as well.
Whether Gilbert ultimately has to answer for any dishonesty or sloppy research regarding the photos aspect aside, the narrative described in Dreams From My Real Father is by far the most reasonable, plausible scenario I've encountered to describe what really may have gone down concerning the origins of the man calling himself Barack Hussein Obama. I've seen the film. Have you?
In deference to Little Jeremiah however, whose input I respect a whole lot more than I do yours, I'll give the material (only what's posted at FR, as I refuse to give LorenC any additional traffic) a thorough going-over.
Who’s the Obot that got zotted?
Barackryphal is the liar, as far as I can tell. I’ve read his material and it is fraught with slanted, incorrect information and downright misinformation. It is an attack on Joel Gilbert worthy of Chrissy Matthews. Barachryphal is the fraud.
I dont’ agree with everything Joel Gilbert has come up with, but he had done some original investigating and produced a lot of useful new information. I can’t complete the connection between Ann Dunham and the nude photos, but the evidence is compelling to some. He may produce definitive proof at some point. That would not surprise me.
Gilbert is certainly not a liar. Not by any means. But Barachryphal certainly is.
Obots hate Gilbert and any else who exposes the hidden agenda of their socialist hero.
Barackryphal is none other than Loren Collins, aka LorenC, an "anti-birther" whose exploits were egregious enough to merit the Zot. My question to Tex-CON-man is, are you by-the-post, hourly, or straight salary?
Thank you. I didn’t know LorenC was Barackryphal, but it is evident from the latter’s writings that he/she is a hard-core partisan propagandist. TexasCONMan is, I think, well named. I’ve watched him shoot down birther arguments/discussions for quite some time. He is adamantly opposed to any form of birtherism. I assumed that’s why he was posting disreputable articles attacking Joel Gilbert.
My experience in dealing with Gilbert is that he is an earnest researcher, a patriot, and is doing his best to get the truth out of the Obama story. Not an easy task. I don’t agree with all of his conclusions, and can’t go as far as he does with some of his evidence, but I appreciate his work.
Thanks again for the clarification and information.
I’m just curious about how people even knew the name on the birth certificate because I never heard that before. I always believed that he really was born in Hawaii, but that Obama wasn’t his father because they never even lived with Obama.
Barry was an attempted fake anchor baby for Obama.
Again, those bargain basement playboy type pictures of Stanley Anne Dunham gave me my suspicions about Frank Marshall Davis and the Messiah.
I have heard it argued that according to the law, the Husband of the marriage is the legal father, regardless of who the biological father is. (Yes, I know, the law often makes no sense.)
What that means is, even if Barry's biological father is American, His LEGAL father is still a Foreigner, and therefore Barry is NOT a "natural citizen."
In all honesty, this is a thorny question that would have to be worked out by the legal experts, but the chances are that the legal system would regard Barack Obama sr as the father for all legal purposes.
If you are in contact with Joel Gilbert, I would ask you to have him address the accusations raised by Loren Collins in his series. Loren Collins claims to have found one of Gilbert's discovered photographs in a 1958 magazine. If this is indeed true, it means that the photographs cannot be Stanly Ann Dunham. (At least not the ones that Gilbert found.)
It also means that Gilbert is intentionally misleading us. I want to know who is lying, Joel Gilbert or Loren Collins.
That claim has now been called into question. I would like to hear Joel Gilbert respond.
Paul is dead
Elvis is alive
FMD is the baby daddy
Wow...your standards for "earnest researcher" must include the guys who brought us the alien autopsy and Bigfoot videos.
I would like to believe this. All it would take is for Gilbert to release some of the proof that LorenC claims he doesn't have.
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