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Sam Donaldson: 'If Obama Comes to the Next Two Debates With the Same Demeanor He's Losing'
NewsBusters.org ^ | October 7, 2012 | Noel Sheppard

Posted on 10/07/2012 5:40:27 PM PDT by Kaslin

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To: hosepipe

Your scenario could happen given the media and chosen moderators.

But don’t sound so gleeful.

Maybe it won’t.


51 posted on 10/07/2012 6:34:54 PM PDT by berdie
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To: Kaslin

He is losing regardless, Sam you irrelevant old demagouge.


52 posted on 10/07/2012 6:36:34 PM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: M. Thatcher

I think someone does some wishful thinking and dreaming


53 posted on 10/07/2012 6:37:12 PM PDT by Kaslin (Acronym for OBAMA: One Big Ass Mistake America)
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To: Daniel II

What do you mean if? Please have a little more confidence


54 posted on 10/07/2012 6:40:35 PM PDT by Kaslin (Acronym for OBAMA: One Big Ass Mistake America)
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To: EggsAckley
I think that it is possible that OB does not want to win. I’m not going to explain it right now, but let’s just watch and see if maybe I’m right.

My wife says the same thing. Me? I can SEE what she is talking about, but... that would just be too strange..

55 posted on 10/07/2012 6:40:42 PM PDT by Paradox (I want Obama defeated. Period.)
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To: comebacknewt

Get over it. Newt isn’t the nominee


56 posted on 10/07/2012 6:43:25 PM PDT by Kaslin (Acronym for OBAMA: One Big Ass Mistake America)
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To: Kaslin

Obama will bounce back in the ‘town hall’ this week. It’ll be full of planted soft balls for him and gotchas for Romney.


57 posted on 10/07/2012 6:45:07 PM PDT by newzjunkey (Osama's dead... and so is our ambassador - Coulter.)
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To: Kaslin

Immediately after the debate, the first pundit I heard was Donaldson who claimed he wasn’t sure who won the debate!


58 posted on 10/07/2012 6:49:07 PM PDT by EDINVA
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To: newzjunkey

I guess we just have to wait and see, don’t we?


59 posted on 10/07/2012 6:49:30 PM PDT by Kaslin (Acronym for OBAMA: One Big Ass Mistake America)
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To: chris37
When was this photo taken, all I remember is the Obama's and Romney's greeting each other and the family, then Michelle pushing/escorting Zero off the stage.

I did see Mitt go over to his podium and do something, but I don't remember the Zero's coming back in.

That picture is so full of hate by the Zero's, love the look on Romney as he knows they are looking at him with spite.

60 posted on 10/07/2012 6:54:41 PM PDT by annieokie (O)
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To: Kaslin

Obama is to be mocked now, à la post debate, the New Yorker cover, SNL, etc...he’s finished.


61 posted on 10/07/2012 6:57:16 PM PDT by profit_guy
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To: rwfromkansas
Brit said today he wasn’t sure why people thought Obama wasn’t there, that this is the same Obama he’s seen for years.

I thought the same thing. Same old Obama to me. More smirking and anger but the same old BS non-answers and outright lies. Nothing new.

I guess some just saw it for the first time.

62 posted on 10/07/2012 7:01:27 PM PDT by Smokeyblue
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To: DIRTYSECRET

What’s with the EYEBROWS ?


63 posted on 10/07/2012 7:01:33 PM PDT by traumer
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To: EggsAckley
I've been saying for months Obama’s running to lose. He doesn't want this job and he didn't from the beginning. He wasn't in The White House two weeks when he and Moochelle ducked out of the place driving their Secret Service detail nuts. They made some excuse about wanting to visit a school. "Shelle let the cat out of the bag by joking "They let us out!''. The look on Obamas face at the time said it all. "Man, I ain't about this honkey ass president sh!T''.
64 posted on 10/07/2012 7:08:18 PM PDT by jmacusa (Political correctness is cultural Marxism. I'm not a Marxist.)
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To: rwfromkansas

Exactly right. Obama minus teleprompter = Biden**2


65 posted on 10/07/2012 7:10:24 PM PDT by entropy12 (Romney/Ryan 2012....this is a great time to send more campaign cash to them.)
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To: ladyjane
Sam’s still alive?

Probably still collecting his federal mohair subsidy at his "ranch".

66 posted on 10/07/2012 7:19:00 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative
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To: Kaslin

I wasn’t a Newt supporter. Have had this screen name since he left Congress a decade ago.

My tag line is a quote from Rush about how Newt threw his political career away.


67 posted on 10/07/2012 7:22:01 PM PDT by comebacknewt (Newt (sigh) what could have been . . .)
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To: M-cubed
It appears Moochel is wearing his pair and is a little uncomfortable trying to carry his for him....

LOL! Bwah-ha-ha... From Moochel's stance she probably has a really big pair, certainly not Barry's.

68 posted on 10/07/2012 7:22:23 PM PDT by roadcat
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To: Kaslin

1. It was not a “glide path”. The 2010 election should have been a clear evidence to the contrary.

2. Things have gotten worse since then, on the global and domestic fronts.

3. A clown throwing darts at a decision chart would be a more effective leader.

4. obama just wants to go chill on the beach, and choom.


69 posted on 10/07/2012 7:31:15 PM PDT by One Name (Ultimately, the TRUTH is a razor's edge and no man can sit astride it.)
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To: Kaslin
Poor Sam. He can't even do simple arithmetic anymore. Obama can only come to ONE more debate. The other one is between Ryan and Biden. Senility is a sad thing.
70 posted on 10/07/2012 7:33:24 PM PDT by Myrddin
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To: ozzymandus

I’d tell Sam that he’s imagining an Obama that doesn’t exist. Obama’s not a fighter. He may sucker punch but standing there - one on one with an aggressive enemy right in his face- his instinct is to flee.


71 posted on 10/07/2012 7:34:33 PM PDT by Personal Responsibility (The Left blaming Jim Lehrer for the debate is like blaming Lincoln's assassination on the play.)
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To: rwfromkansas
Brit said today he wasn’t sure why people thought Obama wasn’t there, that this is the same Obama he’s seen for years.

That is my take also. Obama's shtick in the past has been 'I am an outsider'; 'it is time for Change (and Hope)'; 'I will bring the Change (lower the sea levels, etc)' ...

One might be able to get away with this malarkey when one is new to the scene (although why anyone would swallow this crap from someone who has done nothing in his life is beyond me), but this schtick just does not work when he's been CEO of the Country for nearly 4 years. Yes, Obama and his gang of misfits still try to blame Bush ... but that comes off as very weak.

Obama basically has no message. 'Change and Hope' might con some people the first time it is pitched, but after 4 years it is exposed as the nonsense as it always was...

72 posted on 10/07/2012 7:44:59 PM PDT by El Cid (Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house...)
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To: Myrddin
Obama can only come to ONE more debate.

There are two more Presidential debates. Oct 16th is the Town Hall and the final Presidential debate is the 22nd, it will be on Foreign Policy.

73 posted on 10/07/2012 7:53:53 PM PDT by sand88
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To: Kaslin

I think this is a liberal “dog whistle”.

What Sam is really saying is, “Look, we can carry this guy’s water, and have, a long, long way. But he has got to give us at least one showing good enough to spin into a plausible good showing. Otherwise, we’re all going to be really, really peeved that he is making us look bad, when we continue to carry his water.”


74 posted on 10/07/2012 7:56:01 PM PDT by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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To: newzjunkey

The next Romney / Obama debate is not this week - it’s next week. This week is Ryan / Biden.

By the time Romney and Obama get back on the stage again, we should have two straight weeks of chatter about how the brilliant liberal democrat Eloi have gotten destroyed in back to back debates by knuckle dragging mouth breathing Morlocks


75 posted on 10/07/2012 7:56:19 PM PDT by Personal Responsibility (The Left blaming Jim Lehrer for the debate is like blaming Lincoln's assassination on the play.)
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To: sand88
Ok. I don't have a TV...and I already voted :-) Hope Romney performs well again.
76 posted on 10/07/2012 8:01:15 PM PDT by Myrddin
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To: Kaslin

The folks complaining the most are BIG liberal fans... that’s odd. Could it be a set up for the next debate? Could Obama be as bad as he seems? Is the wagon going over the cliff? Come back next week...


77 posted on 10/07/2012 8:04:39 PM PDT by GOPJ (You only establish a feel for the line by having crossed it. - - Freeper One Name)
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To: profit_guy

I thought the 2nd debate was supposed to be about foreign policy. Undecided Voters won’t be asking about that will they?


78 posted on 10/07/2012 8:04:39 PM PDT by MNDude (OWS Movement RIP)
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To: chris37

Good Lord, but Michelle has such an ugly demeaner and hateful look.


79 posted on 10/07/2012 8:06:27 PM PDT by Conservative4Ever (The Obamas = rude, crude and socially unacceptable)
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To: ladyjane

Yeah, I guess so. I thought he was retired and had returned to the planet Vulcan.


80 posted on 10/07/2012 8:09:26 PM PDT by WorkingClassFilth
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To: chris37
You know his posture just appears really weak. Even the position of his feet signal weakness.

Looks like his feet are directionally challenged.

Send him back to Haaaaarvard for "walking 101"

81 posted on 10/07/2012 8:10:56 PM PDT by spokeshave (The only people better off today than 4 years ago are the Prisoners at Guantanamo.)
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To: One Name

I vote for #4.

I want him to be happy. :)


82 posted on 10/07/2012 8:14:03 PM PDT by berdie
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To: MNDude

The second Presidential debate is a townhall format covering domestic and foreign policy issues. The third is all foreign policy.

http://www.2012presidentialelectionnews.com/2012-debate-schedule/2012-presidential-debate-schedule/


83 posted on 10/07/2012 8:14:53 PM PDT by profit_guy
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To: berdie

He could be our “first recovering addict”, and lead the world in morning chooms on the beach...

Cut to Michelle for an arugula wrap for lunch, then back to sleep.


84 posted on 10/07/2012 8:21:59 PM PDT by One Name (Ultimately, the TRUTH is a razor's edge and no man can sit astride it.)
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To: annieokie

What’s happening in the picture—Mitt has gone back to the podium to sign and date his debate notes. He’s a businessman and knows the importance of recording important papers. These notes will go into the Romney Presidential Library.

Meanwhile Michelle and Obama are looking at the beautiful Romney family. Michelle practically has daggers in her eyes.


85 posted on 10/07/2012 8:27:29 PM PDT by Atlantan
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To: chris37

“The posture of these two is interesting to me. He (Michelle) appears to be seething, and she (Barry) appears to be in auto-babble mode.”

I don’t go in for racial sounding sayings, but someone else here on FR got it right when they wrote (or words to this effect), “I aitn’t seen a black man take such a beating since Kunta Kinte in Roots.”

I look at Michele’s body language and it seems to say to me, “that Honky Cracker jus took mah free vacations away.” President Obama looks like a maniken. I know the picture is just an optical illusion, but it is priceless...especially the way Romney appears to be giggling. I doubt that was the best “anniversary” the Obamas have experienced. The “chosen one” got his head handed to him, and was shown publically to be an empty suit. It was trully priceless....and folks I cannot stand Romney being the GOP candidate and I still enjoyed it.

I’m not going to vote for Romney because I know he will turn on conservatives (and the Mormon thing is significant to me)....but I am still rooting for him to destroy Obama.

If Mr. Romney keeps his head and does this again....then Obama is toast....even with phoney employment data. Romney won’t need my vote to beat Obama.


86 posted on 10/07/2012 8:34:05 PM PDT by Sola Veritas (Trying to speak truth - not always with the best grammar or spelling)
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To: Sola Veritas

“Romney won’t need my vote to beat Obama.”

You are foolish...and I believe Romney will win, with or without your vote, but I have no respect for you if not voting for Romney is your stance.


87 posted on 10/07/2012 8:40:09 PM PDT by GGpaX4DumpedTea (I am a Tea Party descendant...steeped in the Constitutional Republic given to us by the Founders.)
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To: Sola Veritas

Sola Veritas, just push the button for him. It doesn’t really matter in the big picture if he turns on conservatives.

What matters is he won’t turn on America.

Yes, he is more liberal than we would like.

Obama must go, he must go, he must go, he must go.


88 posted on 10/07/2012 8:44:26 PM PDT by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: RacerX1128

The most powerful line in the debate?

“ROMNEY: But you’ve been — but you’ve been president four years...”


89 posted on 10/07/2012 8:45:03 PM PDT by Mr Rogers
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To: berdie

[ But don’t sound so gleeful. Maybe it won’t. ]

I am not amused, at all..


90 posted on 10/07/2012 8:49:05 PM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole..)
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To: EggsAckley

If Obama does not want to win, I will agree with you.

I was struck by his seeming indifference to the debate that evening. I see it as one of two things:

1. He knows that there will be no election come Nov 6(All that ammunition was not purchased for nothing).

or

2. The fix is already in. Obama has a computer czar who could have spent the last 4 years figuring out how to have the computer tally more votes for Obama than his challenger regardless of the actual vote count.

Thank God for reynolds wrap.


91 posted on 10/07/2012 8:55:05 PM PDT by Delta Dawn (The whole truth.)
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To: Myrddin

Thank you...and it is not really about debate performance, it is about the health of this country...Obama hates this country...he must be gone!


92 posted on 10/07/2012 8:56:57 PM PDT by GGpaX4DumpedTea (I am a Tea Party descendant...steeped in the Constitutional Republic given to us by the Founders.)
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To: EggsAckley
Anyway, my theory seemed even more plausible (to me) after the first debate.

I have that same theory. It could be that being President is way too much work for Obama. Also, if you noticed that during the debate, Obama promised Michelle that next anniversary would not be in front of 40 million people. Hopefully a reference to the private life.

On the main subject of the thread, I don't know what they meant by "demeanor". This IS Obama. Do they want him to go MSNBCnam Style? We would love that. I think the difference in this debate was that Romney was not deferential to Obama like McCain was. McCain fell all over himself praising Obama during his campaign. Obama is used to being able to say whatever he wants and just being in a place where everyone instantly believes and agrees with it. Plus Romney threw Obama off right out if the gate with his homoerotic declaration of Obama being in the "most romantic place...here with me." He was hot and bothered from that point forward.

93 posted on 10/07/2012 8:58:17 PM PDT by BRK
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To: Atlantan
Yes, I know and saw Mitt go back to his podium, but I never saw Zero and wife come back on. I thought they scurried out just as soon as all the greeting of the families was finished.

Great picture of the character of the Obama's.

94 posted on 10/07/2012 8:58:17 PM PDT by annieokie (O)
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To: Delta Dawn; EggsAckley; null and void; 2ndDivisionVet
2. The fix is already in. Obama has a computer czar who could have spent the last 4 years figuring out how to have the computer tally more votes for Obama than his challenger regardless of the actual vote count.

People hear on the news about the "drop in unemployment" and look to the right of them and see an unemployed neighbor, to the left of them and see another, in front of them and see food stamps, and there's a reality check.

Kerry/Edwards lost in 2004 and the outcry on the left was that the "Republican-controlled computerized voting" was the culprit. You believe the Dems will come up with a real version of electronic cheating?

People go to the polls and vote for R&R, they compare notes with as many in their network and neighborhood as they can, and see... the MSM news announcing BO as the winner in spite of what actually happened at the polling places. There's another reality check. It won't be a nice one.

95 posted on 10/07/2012 9:03:00 PM PDT by thecodont
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To: MNJohnnie

[ Does Romney have what it takes to be President? ]

Well the people of Massachusetts liked him..
and one of his good friends was the “swimmer”...
You know... Jabba the Kennedy..

The fact he went over so well in MASS. tattoos him with ten foot pole marks..
THEN you got yer ringers George Bush put into the Supreme Court..

It don’t look good.. the republicans REJECTED ALL conservative candidates.. All of them..
Looks like the republican elite commandeered the party..
Wonder if Rove can get Romney to take a “DIVE” like Juan McLaim did?..

Could be and probably is already a done deal..
Smoky back room conniving.. Bush got two terms, so will Obama.. by hook or crook..

A bigger mystery than Obama getting a second term is HOW did Romney survive the primary’s.?..
They could be connected.. America is getting seriously Sodomized..


96 posted on 10/07/2012 9:05:21 PM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole..)
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To: thecodont
It is enough that the people know there was an election. The people who cast the votes decide nothing. The people who count the votes decide everything. ~ Joseph Stalin
97 posted on 10/07/2012 9:06:06 PM PDT by null and void (Day 1356 of our ObamaVacation from reality - Obama, a queer and present danger)
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To: EggsAckley

“I think that it is possible that OB does not want to win.”

That is possible, though I doubt it. I do believe that 4 years ago Juan McLame did not want to win. Why...I do not know that. McLame was a shit then and is still a shit. He is the reason we have had to put up with the evil, un-American, Communista’s we call the Obama’s, or the Sortelo’s, or the Evil Usurpers...


98 posted on 10/07/2012 9:06:23 PM PDT by GGpaX4DumpedTea (I am a Tea Party descendant...steeped in the Constitutional Republic given to us by the Founders.)
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To: EggsAckley

“I think that it is possible that OB does not want to win.”

That is possible, though I doubt it. I do believe that 4 years ago Juan McLame did not want to win. Why...I do not know that. McLame was a shit then and is still a shit. He is the reason we have had to put up with the evil, un-American, Communista’s we call the Obama’s, or the Sortelo’s, or the Evil Usurpers...


99 posted on 10/07/2012 9:06:37 PM PDT by GGpaX4DumpedTea (I am a Tea Party descendant...steeped in the Constitutional Republic given to us by the Founders.)
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To: hosepipe

Total Balderdash...and if you do not understand that...total Bull Shit...


100 posted on 10/07/2012 9:10:40 PM PDT by GGpaX4DumpedTea (I am a Tea Party descendant...steeped in the Constitutional Republic given to us by the Founders.)
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