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Mitt Romney: I would arm Syrian rebels
Guardian ^ | 8th October 2012 | Ewen MacAskill

Posted on 10/08/2012 12:29:14 AM PDT by Zajko

Mitt Romney will call for an escalation of the conflict in Syria by arming rebels with the heavy weapons needed to confront president Bashar al-Assad's tanks, helicopters and fighter jets.

Romney is to make the proposal on Monday in what his campaign team has billed as a major foreign policy speech in Lexington, Virginia.

In extracts published in advance, he opened up the prospect, if he becomes president, of a US-Iranian proxy war being fought in Syria.

"Iran is sending arms to Assad because they know his downfall would be a strategic defeat for them. We should be working no less vigorously with our international partners to support the many Syrians who would deliver that defeat to Iran – rather than sitting on the sidelines," he said.

The proposal would mark a significant shift from Barack Obama's administration's policy of trying to keep the conflict a low-intensity one amid fears it might turn into a regional war. Obama is putting pressure on Saudi Arabia and Qatar, the main backers of the rebels, to restrict the supply of weapons to small arms.

The Republican presidential candidate has made several attempts at establishing his credentials to be commander-in-chief but those speeches made little impact. Against the background of his win over Obama in last week's debate, the Romney campaign team is hoping this speech will be better received.

The speech is aimed at countering critics who say he has not had much to say so far about foreign policy and given little indication of the lines he would pursue as president.

(Excerpt) Read more at guardian.co.uk ...


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Interesting, if true. Thoughts, anyone?
1 posted on 10/08/2012 12:29:20 AM PDT by Zajko
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To: Zajko

He should stay the HELL out of there. No good can come of it, and if true, is more in line with the Arab Spring crap.


2 posted on 10/08/2012 12:30:57 AM PDT by C210N ("ask not what the candidate can do for you, ask what you can do for the candidate" (Breitbart, 2012))
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To: C210N

And interesting choice of words in the opening line: ‘Mitt Romney will call for an escalation of the conflict....’ ....you do wonder if Obama had said the same thing, whether the article would instead have begun with ‘Obama will call for a speedy resolution of the conflict....’


3 posted on 10/08/2012 12:34:55 AM PDT by Zajko (Never wrestle with a pig. You'll both get dirty, but the pig likes it.)
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To: C210N

Muslim Brotherhood worked out so well in Egypt?.


4 posted on 10/08/2012 12:37:01 AM PDT by TigerClaws
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To: C210N
He should stay the HELL out of there. No good can come of it, and if true, is more in line with the Arab Spring crap.

Correct. We need to stay out of those countries, let the UN deal with with them. One sodomized and murdered diplomat is enough to tell me we will never win their hearts or minds. And after we help them, they will just turn on us like Egypt, and the Afghani recruits that are killing our servicemen. It is time to worry about the US, not these third would shiite holes that have been nothing but trouble since day one. Screw Mohamed and his murdering followers..

5 posted on 10/08/2012 12:37:29 AM PDT by cardinal4 (If Baraq Hussein Obama had a son he would look like Rageboy)
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To: Zajko

Stupid...we shoulda left the Arab Spring to sort itself out


6 posted on 10/08/2012 12:37:29 AM PDT by wardaddy (my wife prays in the tanning bed....guess what region i live in...ya'll?)
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To: Zajko

Why not? Libya and Egypt have been so successful.


7 posted on 10/08/2012 12:38:07 AM PDT by lurk
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To: Zajko; All

Obama is ALREADY arming the Syrian rebels. I’ve read numerous articles talking about his “secret” support.

So Romney wants to do what Obama is already doing, which we shouldn’t be doing at all.

Wait, isn’t that a pattern?


8 posted on 10/08/2012 12:38:49 AM PDT by RaisingCain
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To: Zajko

Don’t do it, Mitt!! It’s a HELL HOLE!!


9 posted on 10/08/2012 12:38:52 AM PDT by Ann Archy ( ABORTION...the HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: Zajko

when two enemies are fighting, I see nothing wrong with sending them weapons-preferably weapons with a limited shelf life.


10 posted on 10/08/2012 12:46:13 AM PDT by RC one
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To: Zajko

Arm al queda and mb? You need new advisers Mitt. Look at Libya doofus.


12 posted on 10/08/2012 12:54:20 AM PDT by Eagles6 (DNC 2012 Convention: Celebrating infanticide and sodomy. Denying God.What could possibly go wrong?)
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To: Zajko

Not if the rebels are the same ones that took over Egypt and libya. Other than Israel I don’t see anyone over there who is worth one cent of our tax dollars.


13 posted on 10/08/2012 12:55:27 AM PDT by Aria ( 2008 wasn't an election - it was a coup d'etat.)
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To: Zajko

Good grief. We need to get all our money and troops OUT of those hell-holes. I don’t want any other troops killed over there until we get rid of the brass that is enabling sodomy and the killing of our troops like flies because they tie their hands behind their back.

We need to get the PC out of the military (Mao’s invention) and get back to segregation of men and women like WWII. Sodomy should be a felony as any sexual transgressions. Character matters—esp. in military.

Then we need to get our military back to where Virtue is promoted in the ranks-—as Machiavelli stated was necessary. We need JUSTICE in the military—(a virtue) and kick out anyone who embraces Vice. Clean up the cesspool that zero and his sodomites have inflicted on this country.

We also need to get rid of the Marxist ideology forced on our troops—and the stupid idea that men and women are interchangeable. Alan West should be in charge to reorganize all the damage done to collapse our military and disillusion them. Zero wants all men to be sex objects for the sodomites (like in his gay bath house) or else they will be kicked out of the military for being intolerant of homosexual sex. They have to have Pride in anal sex now—wouldn’t our WWII vets be “thrilled”. (Disgusting)! It will be just like Hitler and his SA Brownshirts. Homosexual orgies—and they even used the Hitler Youth. Or is he after the Samurai model....can maybe hook up the Boy Scouts or something with the military.

Zero does want the sodomites to lead the Boy Scouts—like they had in Germany in the early 1900’s where they had orgies with the little boys in the woods. It was so much fun after all. Sodomy was “Good” and it was the National Vice of Germany. Ushered in Hitler and his perverted boys. Vice does that after all—as noted by Machiavelli. Degeneracy leads to degeneracy. We are supposed to promote Virtue—Good!

We need Unity in the military. Promoting Vice will destroy it. Mixing women with the men will destroy cohesion also, and so will putting in homosexuals who are major predators. Even with DADT, they had homosexuals attacking men in their beds. So utterly SICK. Our men should not have to put up with the dysfunction, evil, and immaturity of such degenerates.


14 posted on 10/08/2012 1:01:15 AM PDT by savagesusie (Right Reason According to Nature = Just Law)
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To: Ann Archy

Why is he shooting himself in the foot after gaining the momentum during the debate? He also said in this article that he supports a Palestinian state. No - Mitt - NO! This is anti-Biblical. Now, I feel discouraged about him. Seems we are screwed whoever wins.


15 posted on 10/08/2012 1:05:43 AM PDT by Catsrus
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To: Catsrus

No we’re not. MITT is infinitely better than Obama. If Obama wins agin, he’s going to be Hugo Chavez....NEVER LEAVING!!!


16 posted on 10/08/2012 1:09:25 AM PDT by Ann Archy ( ABORTION...the HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: Zajko
Is Romney listening to idiot McCain advice?

There has never been a conflict that McCain didn't want to jump into.

17 posted on 10/08/2012 1:19:34 AM PDT by joe212
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To: Zajko

I hate the fact that Obama and Hilary are arming the Rebels, but would have to jump on board with support when Romney arms the Rebels.


18 posted on 10/08/2012 1:40:06 AM PDT by Uncle Slayton
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To: Zajko

The same nausea you’re feeling reading this article is the same nausea Obama could use to get elected.

I don’t trust the Guardian to accurately report on Republican presidential candidates. So this article is probably a poor starting point for discussion.

But if true, there’s a lot of possible unintended consequences.

It sounds good to oppose Iran and weaken an enemy of Israel.

But what if that means supporting an Islamist rebellion that may be even worse, and that may crush christian minorities?

I don’t trust glowing sympathetic press accounts of Arab Spring, Muslim Brotherhood, and FSA.


19 posted on 10/08/2012 1:40:22 AM PDT by Mount Athos (A Giant luxury mega-mansion for Gore, a Government Green EcoShack made of poo for you)
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To: Zajko

Has Romney gone nuts?


20 posted on 10/08/2012 1:47:18 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: wardaddy
"Stupid...we shoulda left the Arab Spring to sort itself out."

Dangerous too. There is lots of evidence that Obama’s state department, including Susan Rice and his Arabist Robert Brennan, contributed to the series of events to put the Muslim Brotherhood in charge. Remember Hillary's closest aid worked for CAIR and ISNA, and her parents are founders of the Muslim Brotherhood. Remember that Barack’s patron, according to Percy Sutton, Malcolm X's and Louis Farrakhan's, and one of many Muslim Brotherhood attorneys, is Alwaleed bin-Talal. He supported his lawyer, Khalid al-Mansour, in buying Obama’s entry to Harvard Law (with a twenty million dollar donation and the largest division of Harvard Divinity School, the Alwaleed bin-Talal Center for Islamic Studies. Supporting the rebels in Syria is supporting the Muslim Brotherhood. We already do that, and it is a death-filled policy which has licensed the killing of Christians, Alawites, Druz, and of course, Jews.

Also good to keep the source in mind. Reuters is hardly a trustworthy news source and can probably be presumed to take whatever tidbits that might keep the Marxist in office out of context.

21 posted on 10/08/2012 1:47:47 AM PDT by Spaulding
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22 posted on 10/08/2012 1:51:20 AM PDT by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: Spaulding

Sorry for confusing Reuters with The Guardian. The Guardian is even more left wing, so the caution remains.


23 posted on 10/08/2012 1:54:34 AM PDT by Spaulding
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To: Zajko

Good Lord, I think this is a mistake. We never know whose side anyone is on over there, and the “rebels” we back always turn on us. Wanna remind people of GWB’s two wars? Go ahead - they are sick of war. Mistake to say he would escalate war.


24 posted on 10/08/2012 1:58:59 AM PDT by Puddleglum (http://www.facebook.com/paulhawkinsauthoradventurerexplorer)
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To: Zajko
Goes nicely with the article I just read. Obama is a NWO puppet who believes he was selected for his socialism-lite. But really he was the best that the people trying to destroy America could do starting by bowing to islam. Romney was selected as a patsy with the most viable negatives. Various people around Romney will start to suggest he embrace warfare and ultimately, Armageddon.

Obviously knocking over Syria gives Iran even more breathing room to build their nukes.

25 posted on 10/08/2012 2:00:18 AM PDT by palmer (Jim, please bill me 50 cents for this completely useless post)
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To: Zajko

Not interesting.. horrifying. No good comes from getting mired in there. And the Syrian “rebels” are bloodthirsty jihadis who will be exponentially worse than what is in power there.

No, Mitt. Don`t go there.


26 posted on 10/08/2012 2:05:01 AM PDT by ScottinVA (Record high turnout is our hope for sending 0bama home. Pray hard!!!)
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To: Zajko

The hard leftist rag The Guardian. I always get my news about Romney or our “guys” from them. How about you? /sarc


27 posted on 10/08/2012 2:25:11 AM PDT by MrDem (Founder: Democrats for Cheney/Palin 2012)
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To: Zajko

Romney should stop listening to John McCain for foreign policy advice. If this is true. The Guardian... it’s a liberal paper. I’ll wait for more sources.


28 posted on 10/08/2012 2:31:43 AM PDT by tsowellfan
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To: MrDem

Precisely the reason I added the caveat ‘if true’ to my initial post. I also commented on the overt anti-Romney spin of the article in post 3, above.

However, some sections of this purport to be direct quotes from Romney’s speech. These comments (again: ‘if true’) are certainly cause for concern. If you have any info on this from a different - or more reliable - news source, I’d be interested in reading it.


29 posted on 10/08/2012 2:32:47 AM PDT by Zajko (Never wrestle with a pig. You'll both get dirty, but the pig likes it.)
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To: Zajko

Yeah, great idea, so that after they’re finished with Assad, then they can turn those weapons on Americans. Brilliant!


30 posted on 10/08/2012 2:35:56 AM PDT by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: Catsrus

You do realize that Romney has not said this yet.

This article says “would”, not Romney “said”.

This is the guardiam, I think I will wait until Romney actually says something.


31 posted on 10/08/2012 2:48:27 AM PDT by dforest
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To: Zajko

If mitt does this, he will give it to Obama.

I’ll be mad as hell at him.


32 posted on 10/08/2012 2:48:27 AM PDT by boycott (CAL)
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To: Zajko

The national interests of the United States would not be advanced by getting involved in a conflict between the Iranian-backed government and the Muslim Brotherhood backed rebels. We should stay out and get popcorn.


33 posted on 10/08/2012 2:54:02 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (Charlie Daniels - Payback Time http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EWwTJj_nosI)
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To: joe212

When I first read the article, I thought of McCain. The man is a lunatic. Listening to McLame, will put Obama in for a second term.


34 posted on 10/08/2012 2:54:09 AM PDT by boycott (CAL)
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To: Zajko

Not our problem nor our responsibility.


35 posted on 10/08/2012 2:55:30 AM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: RaisingCain
I’ve read numerous articles talking about his “secret” support.

I personally suspect that's what all the stories about the government buying billions of rounds of ammo are all about.
36 posted on 10/08/2012 2:58:17 AM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: Zajko

I would stay out of it. Humanitarian aid only and only after the shooting stops. Furthermore, drop the aid from the air. No personnel for the savages to kidnap.


37 posted on 10/08/2012 2:59:09 AM PDT by Westbrook (Children do not divide your love, they multiply it.)
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To: Zajko

???

I think Al Qaeda is arming them well enough


38 posted on 10/08/2012 3:17:14 AM PDT by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: Zajko

Well, I would arm them too, but not to win. Just to keep destroying Syria.

I would take the same approach throughout the entire muslim world.


39 posted on 10/08/2012 3:36:10 AM PDT by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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To: boycott
When I first read the article, I thought of McCain. The man is a lunatic. Listening to McLame, will put Obama in for a second term.

I felt sick to my stomach reading this article.

It reminded me why I voted in 2000 primaries for W rather than McLame. W was talking about humble foreign policy, McCain was talking as if he was about to start war with Russia...

McLame is still at it...

I just hope that Romney has some wise advisors (Not McLame). The whole foreign policy is a mine field. Obama team is just waiting for Romney to step on a mine...

Foreign Policy for Romey should be only Obama failures: Egypt, Libya (rest of North Africa) plus failure of the whole Iran policy. He does not need to solve anything in a speech or a debate. Just point to Obama failures, walk away.

40 posted on 10/08/2012 3:37:05 AM PDT by joe212
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To: Zajko

There are NO good guys involved there, and we don’t have a dog in that fight. Idiot position, Mitt.


41 posted on 10/08/2012 3:41:55 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: Zajko

Sounds like he’s made the mistake of listening to John McCain. It’s about time that Americans realized that, in today’s Middle East, of all the possible outcomes, none of them are good outcomes.

Best to stay out of these tribal conflicts and civil wars.


42 posted on 10/08/2012 4:03:08 AM PDT by Will88
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To: Zajko
Yes... in the entire history of islam... those that arm the beast... are attacked with their own arms. If Mitt said this... he is also an idiot when it comes to the ME. I cannot imagine Benjamin not schooling this boy.

LLS

43 posted on 10/08/2012 4:06:19 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer ("If it looks like you are not gonna make it you gotta get mean, I mean plumb mad-dog mean" J. Wales)
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To: C210N

Arming them is different than putting people there. This is a sign to the rebel supporters, namely Saudi and Qatar to green light more weapons. Romney is trying to draw Russia into these conflicts. Interesting.


44 posted on 10/08/2012 4:11:48 AM PDT by Solson (The Voters stole the election! And the establishment wants it back.)
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To: Catsrus

Well, it should come as no surprise to folks that Romney’s sporting the neocon interventionist claptrap since he’s got former Bush people on his team as foreign policy advisors, like Condi Rice.


45 posted on 10/08/2012 4:26:07 AM PDT by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: Zajko

Romney to propose new sanctions on Iran, new help for Syrian rebels
CBS News·45 minutes ago Romney plans to call for more direct intervention in Syria, including making sure anti-government opposition forces have weapons. He also plans to criticize the Obama administration for its initial focus on an… http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-250_162-57527605/romney-to-propose-new-sanctions-on-iran-new-help-for-syrian-rebels/


46 posted on 10/08/2012 4:26:07 AM PDT by EBH (0bama is guilty of willful neglect of duty.)
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To: Zajko

https://www.mittromney.com/collection/foreign-policy


47 posted on 10/08/2012 4:27:08 AM PDT by TornadoAlley3 (Obama is everything Oklahoma is not.)
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To: Zajko
According to CBS, it looks like he is going to want to do this due to the loss of control of WMD’s.

Considering the WMD’s have already been moved and “lost track of,” by our intelligence community it just might make some sense.

Supposedly will be rebels who have our values>>>course America doesn't have a good track record with that?

48 posted on 10/08/2012 4:31:24 AM PDT by EBH (0bama is guilty of willful neglect of duty.)
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To: Zajko
MAJORITY on both sides want no part of this. June poll

http://news.yahoo.com/most-americans-against-intervening-syria-poll-finds-220600979.html

49 posted on 10/08/2012 4:31:52 AM PDT by TornadoAlley3 (Obama is everything Oklahoma is not.)
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To: Zajko

Bad idea. Extraordinarily bad idea.


50 posted on 10/08/2012 4:37:58 AM PDT by hcmama
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