Even a billion little blue pills will not help him against Paul Ryan.
Posted on 10/08/2012 5:26:41 AM PDT by rightwingintelligentsia
WASHINGTON — President Obama’s campaign is working feverishly to restore its momentum after a lackluster debate performance last week, an effort that began with a conference call 10 minutes before the debate even ended and led to new advertisements, a rewritten stump speech, a carefully timed leak and a reversal of months-old strategy.
Perhaps most important as the president’s team struggles to put his campaign back on track is a renewed effort to win the three remaining debates, starting with Thursday’s face-off between Vice President Joseph R. Biden Jr. and Representative Paul D. Ryan. Mr. Biden began traveling to a Delaware hotel on Sunday for three days of debate camp.
Under the tutelage of David Axelrod, the president’s chief strategist who is personally overseeing the preparations, Mr. Biden will be counseled on how to avoid Mr. Obama’s mistakes and even correct them with a more aggressive prosecution of the Republican ticket. Mr. Axelrod’s involvement highlights the stakes the Obama campaign places on the debate, and Mr. Biden has been reading “Young Guns,” the book co-written by Mr. Ryan, and practicing attack lines that Mr. Obama avoided.
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To “plot” a comeback, they’ll need to “plant” a brain.
Someone said Jon f’n Cary might stand in for the veep who has come down with the flu...
What are they planning, replace one of Bidens eyes with a laser to blind Ryan?
Or will Biden dress up as Big Bird?
Clearly, their strategy is hail-mary’ish; they’ll be looking for a zinger or gaffe that they can pre-plan and rehearse; one that has no dependencies on anything Ryan would say before OR after. If needed, they’ll work it out with the moderator... or the podium setup crew... or the TV cameras... WHATEVER IT TAKES.
All Ryan has to do is ask ol Joe where the stimulus money that he was supposed to personally oversee went.
I already have the popcorn ready for when Joe tries to do basic math on live national television.
What if Biden does to Ryan what Romney did to zero ..
What would the dims do?
Switch focus off zero and on to Biden?
How could the zero administration be spun if the veep was the only viable entry?
Remember ... I pose this as a fantasy for Chrissy.
Biden can be a bully, I expect he will try to push Ryan around, and make Ryan look “small”. Although he is a bufoon, I think most underestimate Joe when it comes to what else he is capable of. This wont be the same as Joe debating “a girl” like last time.
If it takes 6 days to prep Biden for a debate with Mitt Romney, imagine how long it would take to prep him for dealing with the outbreak of war between Iran and Israel
Not that we have to worry about Biden ever being the President and leader of the free world
...right?
GIven that Ryan had no problem correcting Obama’s lies, directly to his face, in a public forum, I don’t imagine any of Biden’s whoppers will survive.
Ryan needs to avoid taking the bait on set up questions or assertions, because that would be the Axelrod/Biden model.
Paul Ryan has been dealing with bloviating blowhards like braindead Joe for all his life
I think he will do just fine. Assuming the GOP wants to win this race and not throw it like last time
I wonder if Sarah Palin is helping prep him? Joe didn’t get away with bullying her
Who wants to bet Joe brings up his dead wife and child to pander for a sympathy vote?
Four years without a budget. N5 trillion more in debt. 1 trillion deficits,
Joe may attack Ryan’s plans but we’re living the Obama plan already.
Biden is a Sagittarius, so am I, he is a few years older than me, I doubt he has a very flexible memory, I do know what can addle me and that is someone who rambles on and on with technical numbers, I’ll grow bored immediately, or with my bad hearing I’ll interpret a sentence incorrectly.
So I could predict Biden will be easily sidetracked by himself if he has to make a long commentary, I often ramble on explaing something in too much detail to the point I forgot what the whole conversation was about. Ryan could try that tactic, make Biden explain thins in detail, he will rtun off on a tangent, something sagittarians are also famous for.
But even if Biden does acceptable well -- recalling that Sarah Palin won the last debate -- then there is the unfavorable comparison is between Biden's performance and Obama's performance -- and the question arises as to how someone who is in need of a brain transplant could possibly out-debate Obama.
(*)"Honey, I Shrunk the President"
"Think about it: John McCain was feeble. Alan Keyes, whom Obama beat in his 2004 Senate campaign, was crazy. All the Democrats who ran in 2008 were preposterous except Hillary Clinton, and she, as a beneficiary of nepotism, was highly overrated as a politician. He used Chicago-style dirty tricks to dispatch his original opponent in 2004, as well as the state senator he replaced back in the 1990s. The test he failed last night is one to which he had never been put."
Here’s the problem for Obama and his campaign:
He’s a failure as President. The only way he can win re-election is to make the campaign be about the Republican candidate, and define that candidate as negatively as possible.
So that’s what they did — and they did it quite well. But, by defining Romney as a cross between Thurston Howell and Gordon Gekko, they had a problem — what if Romney got up on stage and didn’t fit the caricature?
Obama’s loss wasn’t about Obama not using this line or that line — it was about Romney not fitting the caricature and appearing to be a reasonable alternative to Obama for the undecideds (2/3rds of whom think the country is on the wrong track).
Obama will certainly do better in the next debate, but the question is how exactly is he going to make the flesh and blood Romney look like the guy they savage in their ads? A couple zingers aren’t going to do that.
Obama’s people turned this campaign from a referendum on Obama’s performance into a referendum on whether Romney is an acceptable alternative. Given Obama’s track record, that was their best option. Their problem now is that Romney, post-debate, doesn’t fit that caricature, and all the “Obama came out much better tonight” post-debate MSNBC garbage next week won’t change that.
Romney’s goal is to again sound reasonable, fend off attacks, and continually drive home the President’s failures. If he does that, he’ll win no matter what zingers Obama unleashes.
Pretty sad when all you have to hang your hopes on is Bite Me.
Plugs is an experienced debater. And nasty. For Ryan it’ll be like being locked in a small room with a 180 lb wharf rat with the leftmedia trying to help the rat.
Don’t expect great things out Ryan under the circumstances. He’ll do well if he holds his own.
Ryan lost his father suddenly when he was 16 so I am sure Paul Ryan can let Joe he knows the pain of losing a loved one in the blink of an eye.
Maybe they can put that robot that played Jeopardy n a Joe Biden suit for the debate.
Maybe they can put that robot that played Jeopardy in a Joe Biden suit for the debate.
” - - - Mr. Obama made clear to advisers that he was not happy about debating Mr. Romney, whom he views with disdain. It was something to endure, rather than an opportunity, aides said.”
This quote from the NYT article exposes Obama’s arrogance.
Biden will try to compensate for Obama on this topic.
While Biden is off on that wrong track, Ryan needs to attack the Obama-Biden team on their irresponsible financial stewardship.
No surprise, Old Mad dog joeBiden is going in for the kill.
We will see if the boy wonder budget wiz kid is prepared for 2 hours of attacks on Romney and himself.
This will be a completely different show than that first debate. If Ryan stays on offensive we will know he won, if Biden draws him off to mostly defense then it wont be good, as Romney isnt the failed POTUS.
Although I can predict 99.9% posters on this site will say that Ryan won even if they miss the debate :)
Neither Romney or Ryan are doing this as naive schoolboys.
They took their debate prep seriously and have been on it for weeks.
He isn’t going in cold. I hope he is confident!
Neither Romney or Ryan are doing this as naive schoolboys.
They took their debate prep seriously and have been on it for weeks.
He isn’t going in cold. I hope he is confident!
Exactly. The NY Daily News has already, in yesterday’s paper, called Ryan and Biden both bumblers. And this is a newspaper that people actually pay money for.
Even a billion little blue pills will not help him against Paul Ryan.
Tell the DU we said hello.
Romney won. You know how we know?? All the Democrat whining about how unfair the moderator was, for days. And the MSM asking ‘what happened?’. Whining is not winning it is losing.
You work for Hannity or Romney?
My prediction for the VP debate:
They are coaching Biden to go over the top with attacks. He will say something like “You want to put America in chains” or “You really are wiling to push senior citizens over the cliff.”
This will lead Ryan into a terse statement that the Democrat party is all about rhetoric because their last four years has had no substance. I hope that Ryan takes this moment to “go Gingrich” on Biden.
Neither.
I also don’t work for the election of Obama either.
Hey, some Leos are like that too. As I once lamented some years ago on this very forum,
"My detailed explanation had the unfortunate side effect of making the subject completely incomprehensible."
I am sure he wont repeat the chains comment but I can hear “the senior citizens over the cliff” comment coming from him. Then Ryan responds with "You are the ones who stole medicare funds to pay..."
This will be a good test of Ryan.
there is no other reason to just post informationless talking points
Here's an example :"Ryan won game over. Romney won game over. Dont believe anything you see or hear. the race is over. the debates are over. End of discussion"
I agree with you. Biden may be an idiot, but he's an experienced idiot. Not like our amateur president.
Biden is sort of like an evil clown - he’s a LOT more dangerous than he initially appears.
Biden will lie his @$$ off if he is allowed to get away with it. Ryan needs to have the facts at his fingertips and, most importantly, CALL HIM on every lie. Ryan needs to go facts, figures, and NO MERCY.
that was EXACTLY my point here in this first comment.#25
That is how we can tell if he won. You could tell MR won because he kept O on the defensive most of the time. This is a good test to see if Ryan was a good pick for this race. If he is then Biden will be drawn off as Ryan attacks.
"Arlen, old pal, I really want to thank you for helping
me prepeare for the debate, especially after I convinced
you to turn Democrat---and you lost your Senate seat."
He led Obama into a historic debate flop, and now Axelrod is vainly hoping VP Biden's debate performance will pull Obama's burning nuts out of the fire.
So watch Biden get all fuzzy and teary-eyed about the middle class "burden"---- and he loves to snick and snarl about those horrid one percenters---but lookie here---the lyin' lowdown turkey doesn't mind pocketing Richie Rich's money. Read on.
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NY POST PAGE SIX---Obama still has some friends in investment banking. Chad Leat, managing director and chairman of Alternative Asset Group — Investment Banking at Citigroup Inc, hosted a $10,000-a-plate dinner for VP Joe Biden on Aug. 24 at his home---The Barnyard in pricey Bridgehampton. Leat is described in Hamptons Cottages and Gardens mag as a “banker, dedicated equestrian and imaginative host,” with an “elegant, but hip” home. On the table for discussion will undoubtedly be the Obama economy and jobs. Probably not up for discussion will be that in 2008 Leat's employer Citigroup got Obama's $45 billion government bailout in two installments. (N-o-o-o connection, of course--/snix).
SOURCEhttp://www.nypost.com/p/pagesix/bank_on_biden_ENPOT9A8JA2WkAzbYoNCgI#ixzz21ujanwHC
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NY POST PAGE SIX---Actor Nathan Lane hosted an Obama fund-raiser attended by Joe Biden in Bridgehampton. The Aug. 24 event, called "East End for Obama," featured a performance by singer James Taylor. Hosts included actress Julianne Moore, “Sopranos” star Edie Falco and Jane Holzer. An Obama fund-raiser in the exclusive Hamptons enclave of the rich---host Chesler bragged and e-mailed media that the event “began in the arts community out East but has morphed into what we understand will be the major Obama campaign event this summer in the Hamptons.” Tickets range from $500 to $10,000 to join the host committee and get a photo with Biden
SOURCE http://www.nypost.com/p/pagesix/new_odd_couple_NauGUHaN4AmdoDKr60CluM#ixzz21uknQDmI
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THIS SHOULD COME IN HANDY VP Biden's son, Hunter Biden, was previously a top official at PARADIGM Global Advisors, a hedge-fund holding company founded with Vice President Biden’s brother, James, and marketed by convicted finance fraudster Allen Stanford. As Paradigm chairman, Hunter Biden oversaw half a billion dollars of client money invested in hedge funds while remaining a lobbyist. Cooper chipped in $2 million for the ill-fated venture, which went down in flames amid nasty fraud lawsuits." (NOTE Stanford is now in jail but the Biden's got off scot-free.)
NOTE Oama put VP Biden in charge of the trillion dollar federal stimulus. Guess Joe's son and brother are gonna help him disperse the money.
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Offshore Fraudster Stanford had links to offshore fund run by VP Biden's relatives / Reuters on Yahoo | 2/23/09 | BY Ajay Kamalakaran (Reuters) – A fund of offshore hedge funds run by two members of VP Joe Biden's family was marketed exclusively by offshore firms controlled by Texas financier Allen Stanford, charged by regulators with an $8 billion fraud, the Wall Street Journal said. The Bidens $50 million fund was jointly branded between the Bidens' Paradigm Global Advisors LLC and the offshore Stanford Financial Group entity headquartered in Antigua, and was known as the Paradigm Stanford Capital Management Core Alternative Fund, the WSJ said. --snip--
Problem is that Ryan goes in armed with a light saber and all Biden has is a laser pointer.
“Reading this article reminded me of John Belushi in The Blues Brothers streaming excuses for standing up Carrie Fisher at the alter. “
Oh yeah! How right you are! Here’s the clip of the MSM making excuses for Obama, uh, I mean Jake:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JFvujknrBuE
Amen about Biden needing a brain transplant.
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