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Scientists Win Nobel Prize for Stem-Cell Work [ELIMINATES NEED FOR EMBRYONIC STEM CELLS!]
WSJ ^ | 10/8/12 | GAUTAM NAIK

Posted on 10/08/2012 6:01:57 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper

John B. Gurdon of the U.K. and Shinya Yamanaka of Japan shared this year's Nobel Prize in Physiology or Medicine for their work in so-called cellular reprogramming, which has unleashed a wave of advances in everything from cloning to the possible treatment of diseases using stem cells....

It also allows scientists to create human embryonic stem cells without having to destroy human embryos, sidestepping an approach that has long been fraught with ethical controversies. Most important, perhaps, it has significantly advanced the prospect of using a patient's own mature cells to create fresh tissue and treat disease.

(Excerpt) Read more at online.wsj.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: abortion; life; medicine; nobel; nobelprize; prize; stemcells
Looks like all federal funding that destroys human embryos can be cut.
1 posted on 10/08/2012 6:02:03 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: SoFloFreeper

Sorry, no. Embryonic stem cell research is needed as an excuse for abortions. It was never about outcomes. It was always about misdirection.


2 posted on 10/08/2012 6:05:30 AM PDT by Sgt_Schultze (A half-truth is a complete lie)
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To: SoFloFreeper

Embryonic Stem Cell research is a dead end. There has been nothing valuable resulting from it, but the pro-death crowd wants it to continue so that they can say that some “good” comes out of abortion.

BTW, since Roe vs Wade, over 60 MILLION lives have been snuffed out. That rivals the death count of some very nasty 20th Century Dictators, whose names I shall not mention, in order to be in compliance with “Goodwin’s Law”.

Meanwhile, Stem Cell research that is NOT from aborted babies continues quietly, saving and restoring lives.

Go Figure.


3 posted on 10/08/2012 6:10:24 AM PDT by left that other site (Worry is the Darkroom that Develops Negatives.)
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To: SoFloFreeper

You stupid right wing nuts need to realize that there will always and forever be an overwhelming need to kill unborn babies so we can harvest their organs for other legitimate purposes.

4 posted on 10/08/2012 6:18:05 AM PDT by Zakeet (Calling the Obozo/Bernack economy sluggish is an insult to slugs)
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To: SoFloFreeper
Just as I never would have bought a lamp shade made of human skin in the 30’s I'd never want a medical treatment developed through the killing of children.I'd rather be blind or have diabetes.
5 posted on 10/08/2012 6:35:02 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Ambassador Stevens Is Dead And The Chevy Volt Is Alive)
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To: Zakeet
You stupid right wing nuts need to realize that there will always and forever be an overwhelming need to kill unborn babies so we can harvest their organs for other legitimate purposes.

"I agree",said her good friend,Tiller The Killer,from his particularly unpleasant little corner of Hell!

6 posted on 10/08/2012 6:37:58 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Ambassador Stevens Is Dead And The Chevy Volt Is Alive)
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To: SoFloFreeper

Sorry, michael j fox and others. I KNEW BACK THEN that Gd would NEVER cure us with our own dead children. It was a test. THERE IS ALWAYS ANOTHER WAY.


7 posted on 10/08/2012 6:40:44 AM PDT by Yaelle
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To: SoFloFreeper

Bump


8 posted on 10/08/2012 7:18:40 AM PDT by lowbridge (Joe Biden: "Look, the Taliban per se is not our enemy.")
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To: SoFloFreeper

Superman was wrong, George W Bush was right, and California wasted another $300 million.


9 posted on 10/08/2012 7:20:17 AM PDT by cookcounty (Kagan and Sotomayor side with Joe Wilson: -------Obama DID lie!)
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To: Sgt_Schultze

DING, DING, DING...WE HAVE A WINNER.


10 posted on 10/08/2012 7:21:49 AM PDT by Rumplemeyer (The GOP should stand its ground - and fix Bayonets)
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To: Sgt_Schultze

Indeed, this in no way “eliminates the need for embryonic stem cells”,

because that need is based on the absolute NEED for had-aborts to justify their past decisions by having “science” show that what they killed was not a human and was just a “clump of cells” that now can be useful for harvesting.

The abortion debate is not, and has not been for a long time, about access to future abortions, but about justifying past abortions.


11 posted on 10/08/2012 7:22:42 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: Zakeet

That is not the underlying drive.


12 posted on 10/08/2012 7:23:40 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: Zakeet

Kathleen Sebelius - one of the many faces of evil.


13 posted on 10/08/2012 7:26:51 AM PDT by The Sons of Liberty ("Get that evil, foreign, muslim, usurping, gay bastard out of MY White House!" FUBO!)
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To: left that other site

“the pro-death crowd wants it to continue so that they can say that some “good” comes out of abortion.”

Bingo! Bears repeating.


14 posted on 10/08/2012 7:31:18 AM PDT by plain talk
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To: left that other site

The only thing embrionic stems cells could ever be used for it pure research and even that is limited, we could do a lions share of the research on Embryonic Chimpanzee stem cells instead because a lot of the embryonic research is to determine HOW they work. Then only finish up using human fetal stem cells to fill in the small gaps left over.

Using Fetal stem cells as a base material in treatments is just plain dumb as you will still have the issue of tissue rejection and the cell going rouge easier and becomming cancerous as in that stage they are programed to reprocude heavily....

Adult stems cells are better because the body already has them, they are already “pre-programmed” to not be “fetal-istic” in their roles and we have also figured out how to isolate them. Plus if you extract stems cells from someone, multiply them and inject them back in there is absolutely NO chance of tissue rejection.

The fetal stem cells we need for “pure research” can esily be supplied using unbilical cord cells, miscarraiges caused by trauma like car accidents, etc... (you don’t want miscarriges caused by genetic disorders). There is no need for giant quantities of fetal stem cells for “end treatment”, as the fetal cells are only needed for pure lab research such as determining the mechanisms for cell growth a difrentiation.

Once we know that, it can be applied to adult stem cells which can save millions more lives than having to steal raw material from actual fetuses that could be carcinogenic.

That is the only caveat for even NEEDING to use fetal stem cells. It would only be a reasearch tool ONLY and would NEVER want to use fetuses as a “Stem Cell Crop” for the raw material for actual treatments.

Of course Planned Un-Parenthood would love to get another “Cash Crop” and would love to use “fetal stem cell treatment” as an excuse to do so.


15 posted on 10/08/2012 7:44:40 AM PDT by GraceG
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To: MrB

Indeed, this in no way “eliminates the need for embryonic stem cells”,

because that need is based on the absolute NEED for had-aborts to justify their past decisions by having “science” show that what they killed was not a human and was just a “clump of cells” that now can be useful for harvesting.

The abortion debate is not, and has not been for a long time, about access to future abortions, but about justifying past abortions.

They were trying to justify Evil by claiming it was for the “Common Good”, this is how Evil always tries to justify itself.

I mean if you wanted stem cells for pure research, embryonic stem cells could be provided from miscarriges caused by trauma ie. ( car wrecks, accidental falls, etc...) that way some good could come from a tragedy, but no good comes from “Manufactured Tragedy”.

It would be like trying to justify the execution of old people because you would be using their organs... True some good would come out of saving lives, but the EVIL and INHUMANE act of killing the old people because they are old and you need their organs would never ever come close the equaling the amount of “good” that came of it.....


16 posted on 10/08/2012 7:50:57 AM PDT by GraceG
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To: SoFloFreeper

bkmk


17 posted on 10/08/2012 7:54:14 AM PDT by Sergio (An object at rest cannot be stopped! - The Evil Midnight Bomber What Bombs at Midnight)
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To: GraceG; plain talk

Thank you for your kind affirmation.

I have already received some mean-spirited FReepmail on my comment, so it is nice to read your comments! :-)

(Yep, we have some folks like that on FR.)


18 posted on 10/08/2012 8:03:27 AM PDT by left that other site (Worry is the Darkroom that Develops Negatives.)
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To: SoFloFreeper
At the University of Colorado Anschutz Medical Campus, they have been doing this research for years. They developed a way of making adult stem cells behave like embryonic stem cell (pluripotent cells) largely b/c there was no funding for embryonic stem cell research. As it turned out, the adult stem cells are far better b/c they don't bring with them the danger of malignant tumors nor rejection. I asked Dr. Dennis Roop, director of the Charles C Gates Center for Regenerative Medicine, once why Diana DeGette (D Denver) continues to push for embryonic funding if it is inferior and he said he thought she had invested too much time/ effort in the fight to give up. He said it makes no sense to push for it.
At the CCG Center, they are working with kids with fragile skin syndrome, people with severe burns (it is possible to grow enough skin to cover your entire body from a postage stamp piece of skin in 3 weeks), and corneal transplants and more. It is wonderful science: extremely positive and none of it uses aborted babies.
19 posted on 10/08/2012 8:31:34 AM PDT by luv2ski
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To: SoFloFreeper

Doesn’t matter to the libtards. Won’t stop them. They are not after anything that resembles the truth but rather they live to control the masses for their own selfish purposes.


20 posted on 10/08/2012 8:42:23 AM PDT by Leep (Forward! To Surfdom)
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To: SoFloFreeper

Sadly, not so. Embryonic stem cells were quickly adopted as a cause celebre by advocates of the Culture of Death, and they will not easily abandon this weapon.


21 posted on 10/08/2012 10:17:57 AM PDT by Elsiejay
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To: SoFloFreeper

Okay, I take it back. The Nobel Committee can get “one thing” right after all. My former comments about them not being able to get anything right, should be amended to address them very seldom getting anything right.


22 posted on 10/08/2012 10:23:55 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Obama got Mitch-Slapped in that first debate. 70% to 19% (Gallop)? That's going to leave a mark.)
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To: left that other site

doesn’t blood from the umbilical cord contain the same stem cells?


23 posted on 10/08/2012 12:39:35 PM PDT by a real Sheila (RYAN/romney 2012)
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To: a real Sheila

It does.


24 posted on 10/08/2012 12:47:16 PM PDT by left that other site (Worry is the Darkroom that Develops Negatives.)
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To: Sgt_Schultze

Not defending anything, just wanted to point out that aborted babies produce adult stem cells as the cells have differentiated into specific tissue types.


25 posted on 10/08/2012 1:01:12 PM PDT by ican'tbelieveit (School is prison for children who have commited the crime of being born. (attr: St_Thomas_Aquinas))
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To: Yaelle

Deo Gratias!!


26 posted on 10/08/2012 2:06:26 PM PDT by victim soul
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To: DoughtyOne
Okay, I take it back. The Nobel Committee can get “one thing” right after all. My former comments about them not being able to get anything right, should be amended to address them very seldom getting anything right.

You know what they say about broken clocks.

27 posted on 10/08/2012 2:27:23 PM PDT by markomalley (Nothing emboldens the wicked so greatly as the lack of courage on the part of the good -- Leo XIII)
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Can they start working on Livers stat? I’m gonna need one in a couple years.


28 posted on 10/08/2012 5:33:18 PM PDT by Tailback
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To: SoFloFreeper

Awww./s


29 posted on 10/08/2012 6:02:17 PM PDT by Eleutheria5 (End the occupation. Annex today.)
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To: SoFloFreeper

Calling Michael J. Fox, Jerry Zucker, etc. Heeeellllooooo.......


30 posted on 10/08/2012 6:02:52 PM PDT by Henry Hnyellar
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To: SoFloFreeper

Placemark for pingout.


31 posted on 10/09/2012 7:51:48 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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