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Why Obama Will Lose All Three Debates
AmericanThinker.com ^ | 10/8/2012 | Monty Pelerin

Posted on 10/08/2012 6:02:09 AM PDT by RoosterRedux

President Obama had a terrible debate last week. Supporters and opponents were shocked that he could be so off his game. They shouldn't have been. That they were indicates that they don't understand Obama's serious, likely insurmountable re-election problem.

Obama supporters and detractors expect the old Obama to show better form in the next debate. But that is not going to happen! It cannot, because Obama's critical problem is not correctable.

Obama's Real Problem

The media seemed more surprised by Obama's performance than Romney's. It was Romney who was the surprise and exposed Obama's Achilles heel. Daniel Henninger observed (my emphasis added):

... no one expected or predicted that Barack Obama could be so pushed off his game or look so flustered in a contest of articulating ideas.
Obama's problem, to put it politely, is his looseness with facts. He is the quintessential "sound-bite" president. Truth for him is whatever he chooses it to be, whatever is necessary to turn things in his favor. His self-aggrandizement and arrogance, coupled with a hero-worshiping media, has enabled him to such an extent that it is possible that he no longer believes there is truth other than what he wants it to be. That is his problem, and it has been reinforced for most of his life.

Obama created his own fantasy bubble. He began by inventing history in two so-called autobiographies. Challenging anything in his self-created Alice in Wonderland world brought automatic charges of racism and other attacks from his defenders. After years of living in his bubble, one wonders whether Mr. Obama even knows objectivity or truth. This psychopathology was reinforced by admirers to the extent that Obama has made it a key tool in his political arsenal.

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1 posted on 10/08/2012 6:02:12 AM PDT by RoosterRedux
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To: RoosterRedux

remember the next debate is in NY (I think) and Gallop (I believe) will “PICK” the undecided voters to ask question.....as the whole debate will be questions from people.....I smell a set up here.................


2 posted on 10/08/2012 6:07:14 AM PDT by blueyon (The U. S. Constitution - read it and weep)
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To: RoosterRedux

The REAL problem is that obama is a not-very-bright puppet. His puppet-masters put his speeches on his teleprompter.

Without his teleprompter, obama is toast!!!!


3 posted on 10/08/2012 6:09:44 AM PDT by Honorary Serb (Kosovo is Serbia! Free Srpska! Abolish ICTY!)
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To: blueyon

I totally agree. Expect a reappearance of someone like the “Ponytail” guy from back in 92. Questions will be heavily slanted and Obama will have his scripted responses well memorized.


4 posted on 10/08/2012 6:10:18 AM PDT by BobinIL
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To: RoosterRedux

I don’t want to sound like stormfront, but the same people who think that everything America accomplished was built on the backs of suffering black people, will think the white candidate stole the debate from the “suffering” black Obama.

IMO whatever the Kenyan is smoking these days, has him feeling no pain...


5 posted on 10/08/2012 6:10:44 AM PDT by Tuanedge (Warriors victorious in a hundred battles, flee when a tiger enters their tent.)
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To: RoosterRedux
Obama's appeal was in his ambiguity.

Thats gone now.

6 posted on 10/08/2012 6:10:46 AM PDT by skeeter
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To: blueyon

I have no doubt the ‘questions selected from the audience’ will have a certain slant.

But...Obama has a very serious problem: his record. This debate is foreign policy...and for some strange reason, the democrats see this as a strong suit. Its not.

I’m sure the storis have already been written, describing how Obama ‘came back’, and Romney will have to excel, for it to be called even a draw. But again, Obama has the little problem of his record.


7 posted on 10/08/2012 6:11:37 AM PDT by lacrew (Mr. Soetoro, we regret to inform you that your race card is over the credit limit.)
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To: RoosterRedux

The media will not let him lose all three.


8 posted on 10/08/2012 6:11:45 AM PDT by Sybeck1
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To: RoosterRedux

As long as the slug doesn’t steal the election..


9 posted on 10/08/2012 6:14:12 AM PDT by PLD
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To: RoosterRedux
Obama's problem, to put it politely, is his looseness with facts. He is the quintessential "sound-bite" president. Truth for him is whatever he chooses it to be, ...

To that correct characterization I would add that he has at least two other related problems: He really doesn't know the key facts on many issues and won't learn them and, as Reagan would have pointed out, he knows so much that isn't true.

10 posted on 10/08/2012 6:14:44 AM PDT by InterceptPoint
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To: RoosterRedux

Paraphrasing Krauthammer, Obama wasn’t off his game—that is his game.


11 posted on 10/08/2012 6:15:29 AM PDT by KansasGirl ("If you have a business, you didn't build that. Somebody else made that happen."--B. Hussein Obama)
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To: RoosterRedux
Obama has been attacking strawmen for the last 4 years.

What he considers Romney's plan bears 0% relationship w/ Romney's actual plan.

When confronted by the real man and the real plan he has no response because he has no idea what it is.

This guy is a joke. Finally someone is actually confronting this pretentious booby.

12 posted on 10/08/2012 6:15:51 AM PDT by Pietro
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To: RoosterRedux
There is a new drug out called Nuvigil. It is given to MS patients to help overcome the extreme tiredness that afflicts many of them during the day causing confusion, slow thinking, and the appearance of laziness. I guarantee you you will see Obama on Nuvigil next debate. It makes your mind run faster, you're more alert, you're more alive, it helps you speak faster and more precisely.

There was an older form of the drug which college kids have been using for years to take exams and stay awake. It's like No-Doz on steroids.

I guarantee you his handlers are aware of it and that he will be drugged on it for the next debate. You watch. He'll be sharper, more awake, no uh's and duh's. You'll see a totally different drugged Barry on Nuvigil!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

13 posted on 10/08/2012 6:16:11 AM PDT by Doc Savage ("I've shot people I like a lot more,...for a lot less!" Raylan Givins)
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To: RoosterRedux

Obama simply cannot defend a vapid, failed policy when confronted with an aggressive attack. There is no teleprompter, no accommodating press and no sycophants crowding at his side. Just him and his opponent who represents the judgement of history. The moderator cannot save him. The big question is not that Romney will win the debates but if it will matter. A democracy ultimately reflects the values of a culture it represents. If the decadent, demented and dependent outnumber the productive and virtuous, these debates will only matter to historians debating the decline of a once great nation.


14 posted on 10/08/2012 6:17:38 AM PDT by allendale
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To: RoosterRedux
"After years of living in his bubble, one wonders whether Mr. Obama even knows objectivity or truth. This psychopathology was reinforced by admirers to the extent that Obama has made it a key tool in his political arsenal."

This is the Michael Jackson presidency, and the White House has become the political freak shw equivalent of Neverland.

15 posted on 10/08/2012 6:18:00 AM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: RoosterRedux

BO cannot think on his feet and his utter abject ignorance of economics was exposed. No fast fix for that. I doubt if he has the intelligence to even grasp anything other than communist/collectivist/redistribution ideology.


16 posted on 10/08/2012 6:18:25 AM PDT by austingirl
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To: blueyon

Do you actually believe that Obama did not have the questions ahead of time for the first one?


17 posted on 10/08/2012 6:18:39 AM PDT by Ingtar (Everyone complains about the weather, but only Liberals try to legislate it.)
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To: BobinIL

“Expect a reappearance of someone like the “Ponytail” guy from back in 92”

I wonder if any shopkeepers will be invited to the townhall debate? Any gas station owners? Any coal workers? Anyone who reads books?


18 posted on 10/08/2012 6:19:02 AM PDT by A'elian' nation (Political correctness does not legislate tolerance; it only organizes hatred. Jacques Barzun)
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To: RoosterRedux

Liberalism has always been a house of cards. Having been put into practice by the Obama administration, the failures inherent in liberalism are now there for all to see.

Not only was Obama exposed in the first debate, so was liberalism and the liberal media.

They’re all going down. For a while.


19 posted on 10/08/2012 6:21:31 AM PDT by wayoverontheright
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To: Joe 6-pack

Or the Kardashian presidency.


20 posted on 10/08/2012 6:21:36 AM PDT by austingirl
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To: RoosterRedux
Osama certainly will lose the last two debates but,just as certainly,he'll universally be declared the winner of both.It will be so bad that Chrissy will get a thrill up his leg ON THE AIR!
21 posted on 10/08/2012 6:21:36 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Ambassador Stevens Is Dead And The Chevy Volt Is Alive)
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To: Doc Savage
He'll be sharper, more awake, no uh's and duh's. You'll see a totally different drugged Barry on Nuvigil!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

There'll still be the problem of content.

22 posted on 10/08/2012 6:22:26 AM PDT by skeeter
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To: A'elian' nation

Will anyone other than brain-dead, dependent, pin-headed, misshapen-headed, LIB syncophants be invited? Will the combined IQ of the audience be above room temperature?


23 posted on 10/08/2012 6:23:04 AM PDT by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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To: Joe 6-pack
This is the Michael Jackson presidency, and the White House has become the political freak show equivalent of Neverland.

Neverland? Huh,if only! Try Jonestown.

24 posted on 10/08/2012 6:23:13 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Ambassador Stevens Is Dead And The Chevy Volt Is Alive)
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To: A'elian' nation

......anyone without an Obama phone?


25 posted on 10/08/2012 6:23:32 AM PDT by COUNTrecount (What Clint Said !!!)
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To: RoosterRedux
Obama did well in his debates against Hillary, but totally sucked against Romney. Why?

He hasn't had to debate anything in years. The Media slavishly adores him and never forces him to defend his record. Others in his administration make the decisions for him.

When you have been a pampered pet for several years, you might find it difficult when called upon to become a pitbull and face off against another big dog.

26 posted on 10/08/2012 6:23:37 AM PDT by Dr. Thorne (Democrats - The Treasonous Pervert Party)
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To: Honorary Serb

Ding Ding Ding!

We have a winner.

0bama is not intelligent. Without someone else writing words for him, he cannot fake it.


27 posted on 10/08/2012 6:24:54 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: allendale

“The big question is not that Romney will win the debates but if it will matter.”

I’m as disillusioned as you are with the ignorance of the voters we see interviewed on the street, but Gallup has Romney up 5; so maybe all is not yet lost.

Anyone ever listen to Beck’s Friday football trivia contest on his radio show with 7-11 workers ? Can’t name one of the planets, normal body temperature, or what comes after “I Pledge Allegiance to the Flag of the ...........


28 posted on 10/08/2012 6:26:25 AM PDT by A'elian' nation (Political correctness does not legislate tolerance; it only organizes hatred. Jacques Barzun)
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To: Dr. Thorne
Obama did well in his debates against Hillary, but totally sucked against Romney. Why?

What did they have to disagree on?

OTOH, I saw Obama beat Alan Keyes in the Illinois senatorial debate. But Obama won with his hopey-changey platitudes. It's obvious now that when he has to address facts, he collapses.

29 posted on 10/08/2012 6:32:06 AM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas (Viva Christo Rey!)
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To: RoosterRedux
All we need is for President Dwayne Elizondo Mountain Dew Herbert Camacho to be himself. It really won't matter if Mitt gets the "Do you still beat your wife?" questions, and, Mr. President gets the "What's your favorite color?" questions.
30 posted on 10/08/2012 6:34:11 AM PDT by NamVet71MP
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To: RoosterRedux
I honestly do not think Obama is as smart or as gifted as people have made him out to be. Sure, he was great in 2008, because no one knew him and he filled in the the public’s vast imagination. He was a blank slate who promised to forgive white guilt and bring people together.

After 8 years of Bush and the haranguing of the never ending cacophony of anti-Bush screeching people were eager to give Obama the benefit of the doubt, despite his vast inexperience.

But remember when Obama went to speak at Saddleback Church with Pastor Rick Warren? Obama performed miserably. Lots of stammering, imprecise answers, things were above his pay-grade. It was a disaster.

So Obama is Obama. He no longer has the luxury of filling in the blank public palette. He now has to defend who he is, what he believes, and the record he built based upon who Obama is.

Obama is toast.

31 posted on 10/08/2012 6:36:03 AM PDT by Obadiah (The corrupt MSM is the enemy of the American people.)
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To: Doc Savage
I guarantee you his handlers are aware of it and that he will be drugged on it for the next debate. You watch. He'll be sharper, more awake, no uh's and duh's. You'll see a totally different drugged Barry on Nuvigil!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

If you recall, Hitler was kept going by large injections of vitamins and other drugs concocted by his personal physician. He was on them to the end.

32 posted on 10/08/2012 6:43:59 AM PDT by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: blueyon

[ remember the next debate is in NY (I think) and Gallop (I believe) will “PICK” the undecided voters to ask question.....as the whole debate will be questions from people.....I smell a set up here................. ]

The next debate will be fixed to favor Obama, and he will do much better. The media will be stocked, however, at how well Romney will do—even with hostile questions designed to make him look bad. The questions to Romney will be written by the Obama campaign and delivered by so-called undecided others to provide the Obama media cover. The media will fawn that their Messiah has risen again, but I expect that Romney will again win with the voters at home.


33 posted on 10/08/2012 6:44:39 AM PDT by KansasGirl ("If you have a business, you didn't build that. Somebody else made that happen."--B. Hussein Obama)
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To: BobinIL

“Pony-tail guy” was a missed opportunity for Bush I.
All George H. W. Bush had to do was say to him was “I am not your father. The Federal Government is not your father. Sit down, shut up, and get a life, you loser,” and he would have won in a landslide.


34 posted on 10/08/2012 6:46:40 AM PDT by Little Ray (AGAINST Obama in the General.)
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To: Doc Savage

Are you suggesting Doc that he’ll be like the UPS guy on Mad TV?


35 posted on 10/08/2012 6:51:09 AM PDT by jimfree (In Nov 2012 my 12 y/o granddaughter has more relevant&quality executive experience than Barack Obama)
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To: austingirl

Whatever intellegence he has is totally used up in his narcissism.

Romney has dealt with such guys in business, and has helped them down from their pedestal, as anything a narcissist runs eventually fails and thus in order to save such organizations the narcissist has to be removed.

The narcissists sysfunctional relationship with any truth leads to failure and they end up out of power or incharge of a failing organization.

Romney knows.

A large problem is that the criteria for permission to vote has gone from landowners to any person living or deceased.

People whose dysfunctional management of their own needs who keep this guy in power for as long as it takes for them to destroy everything around them do not see into the future for how they are going to manage when their support system breaks under their weight.

there is much work to be done if we are blessed enough to gain Romney (or anyone non-dysfunctional) as a leader.

We don’t want to go through this again.


36 posted on 10/08/2012 6:51:14 AM PDT by stanne
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To: Honorary Serb
The REAL problem is that obama is a not-very-bright puppet.

I've been saying that for years.

37 posted on 10/08/2012 6:51:52 AM PDT by SeaHawkFan
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To: Doc Savage

Are you suggesting Doc that he’ll be like the UPS guy on Mad TV?


38 posted on 10/08/2012 6:52:58 AM PDT by jimfree (In Nov 2012 my 12 y/o granddaughter has more relevant&quality executive experience than Barack Obama)
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To: blueyon
remember the next debate is in NY (I think) and Gallop (I believe) will “PICK” the undecided voters to ask question.....as the whole debate will be questions from people.....I smell a set up here.................

I'm sure the Romney knows this and will be prepared with excellent answers to the questions.

39 posted on 10/08/2012 6:54:50 AM PDT by SeaHawkFan
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To: RoosterRedux

The next debate is going to include foreign policy. Its a non starter for Bam as he just let his ambassador get murdered in Libya not to mention he has no foreign policy. Mitt will clean up.


40 posted on 10/08/2012 6:55:28 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: wayoverontheright

From your lips to God’s ears!


41 posted on 10/08/2012 6:56:27 AM PDT by John 3_19-21 (Desperation leads to curious events)
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To: Dr. Thorne

And because Hillary is fast and loose with the truth. They were playing the same game. Not so Romney. He is in a different league than BO, Hillary, Lehrer and all who shuffle the truth around in order to prop up their lifestyle.

Romney is comfortable with the truth.

Many voters are not comfortable with the truth- for instance the truth of their future which is : if BO gets back in everything will fail and he’ll zip outta here leaving the sillies who voted him in on their own and they have no skills of self reliance, which they’ll need in any case- sooner if BO gets back in.

Sigh


42 posted on 10/08/2012 6:56:47 AM PDT by stanne
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To: lacrew

I thought the next debate was foreign policy, but here’s the schedule. Biden/Ryan is listed as domestic and foreign policy, as is the 2nd Romney/Obama debate. The final Romney/Obama debate is specifically foreign policy.

http://www.2012presidentialelectionnews.com/2012-debate-schedule/2012-presidential-debate-schedule/


43 posted on 10/08/2012 6:57:07 AM PDT by memyselfandi59
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To: RoosterRedux
We all know the media is going to do it's best to even this thing up for Obozo in the Towqn hall format...

However, Obozo will have to overcome two weeks worth of momentum for Romney while waiting for his next chance at Romney.

Obozo's biggest mistake may end up being the fact that he didn't do two Presidential debates first then the Veep debate.

All anyone is really looking for ina Veep is competence to take over if something happens to the President. Ole Plugs Bite Me! is going to be gaming Ryan to make him look like a child ill equipped to take over....

Ryan should paper him with all the years of deficit spending Biden voted for that helped get America where it is today and hit him with lots of facts and figures that Biden is unaware of since he left the safety of his Senate seat.

Just my take?.....

44 posted on 10/08/2012 6:58:08 AM PDT by thingumbob (I'm a bitter clinger...I dare you to take my gun)
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45 posted on 10/08/2012 6:58:39 AM PDT by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: Tuanedge

—I don’t want to sound like stormfront, but the same people who think that everything America accomplished was built on the backs of suffering black people, will think the white candidate stole the debate from the “suffering” black Obama.—

They are the 47%. Ignore them.


46 posted on 10/08/2012 7:00:12 AM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: wayoverontheright

From your lips to God’s ears!


47 posted on 10/08/2012 7:01:09 AM PDT by John 3_19-21 (Desperation leads to curious events)
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To: memyselfandi59

Geez, I wonder which one the media will concentrate on first, domestic or foreign policy....neither one is going well right now for Obozo / Bite me!


48 posted on 10/08/2012 7:01:45 AM PDT by thingumbob (I'm a bitter clinger...I dare you to take my gun)
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To: Tuanedge
I don’t want to sound like stormfront,

The unfortunate aspect of the Obama presidency, is that an increasing number of people are thinking that the guys at stormfront were right all along.

49 posted on 10/08/2012 7:05:14 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (Charlie Daniels - Payback Time http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EWwTJj_nosI)
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To: hal ogen
If Gallup is helping to pick the undecided's it would be a great act of revenge against Obozo and Holder to make sure the balance was fair. It would let the Democrats know they shouldn't have been threatening Gallop with a Justice Dept. lawsuit over its sampling process.

Just putting that out there as food for thought, although my instincts say the modus operendi will not change.....continued attempts will be made to assist Obozo to a second term.

50 posted on 10/08/2012 7:09:21 AM PDT by thingumbob (I'm a bitter clinger...I dare you to take my gun)
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