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TIME TO TAKE GRAMA'S KEYS (CONGRESSWOMAN LOUISE SLAUGHTER)
Lonsberry.com ^ | Oct. 8, 2012 | Bob Lonsberry

Posted on 10/08/2012 10:18:11 AM PDT by RochesterNYconservative

We all love Grama.

But it’s time to take away the keys.

It’s not about how many years she’s been driving. It’s not about all the great things she’s done. It’s not about how much you appreciate and respect her.

It’s not about yesterday, it’s about today.

It’s about common sense and realizing that this can’t go on. She can’t do today what she did yesterday, and the passage of time has done what the passage of time does.

She won’t want to give them up. She will be certain that she’s still capable. She might even fight you over it. And it might lead to some temporary hard feelings.

But it’s the right thing to do.

It’s time to take away Grama’s keys.

For most middle-aged people across Monroe County, Louise Slaughter has been in Congress all of their adult lives. There are grandparents today who were newlyweds when she was first elected. There are local men who have been born, grown, fought in war and died, all since Louise Slaughter went to Washington. For a generation, this region’s voice and face in Washington have been Louise Slaughter.

Different people will see the effectiveness of those years differently. Those who view insider status and being a spokesperson for partisan cause as important will note success. Those who think legislative accomplishment and local benefit are important will find less success.

She has been a champion of America’s liberal and feminist causes, and earned praise or criticism as a result.

She has had a long and interesting career.

(Excerpt) Read more at lonsberry.com ...


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: New York
KEYWORDS: hag; louise; old; slaughter
Please, it is not an age issue, although 83 is too old when she seems old and befuddled and lost when she is on television. She is an embarrassment to Western New York. I don't know who I cannot stand more...her or Granny Panties Kirsten Gillibrand...both obsessed with women's issues instead of issues facing ALL New Yorkers.
1 posted on 10/08/2012 10:18:23 AM PDT by RochesterNYconservative
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To: RochesterNYconservative

TERM LIMITS! That would get most of the elderly and befuddled out. Anybody remember Strom Thurmond? Plus, according to friends in SC, the older he got, the bigger a problem he had with - er, wandering hands. Women didn’t want to be in the same elevator with him.

People get very loyal to their legislator “de toda la vida,” as the Spanish would say, meaning “as long as I can remember.” So there needs to be a mandatory term limit for all offices.


2 posted on 10/08/2012 10:23:03 AM PDT by livius
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To: RochesterNYconservative

I caught her on C-span a few times earlier this year during some committee meetings..either Rules or Ways and Means. She’s ranking member on several key subcommittees..While I detest her politics, she seemed very alert and spry..spoke well...compared to most of the female members of the black caucus...she’s an Einstein..


3 posted on 10/08/2012 10:28:02 AM PDT by ken5050 (Barack Obama: An empty suit sitting in an empty chair...)
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To: RochesterNYconservative

Who spells Grandma this way — affirmative action “journalists”?


4 posted on 10/08/2012 10:31:27 AM PDT by treetopsandroofs (Had FDR been GOP, there would have been no World Wars, just "The Great War" and "Roosevelt's Wars".)
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To: RochesterNYconservative

Bravo for Bob and he is spot on right!!


5 posted on 10/08/2012 10:34:03 AM PDT by The Mayor ("If you can't make them see the light, let them feel the heat" — Ronald Reagan)
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To: RochesterNYconservative

My Father’s drivers license expired when he was around 88. He was no longer driving but in order to keep insurance on his car it was necessary to keep his DL.

My Sister and I took him to the Florida license office to get his license renewed. The only test they gave him was the eye test. He was so unsteady on his feet that my Sister stood beside him and held the back of his belt to keep him steady.

He passed the eye test and got his license.


6 posted on 10/08/2012 10:36:58 AM PDT by yarddog
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To: RochesterNYconservative

Nice sentiment, but if “Granma” is a self-sustaining adult you can’t simply take her keys away from her. If she’s a danger, her license to drive has got to be revoked by the authority that issued it.


7 posted on 10/08/2012 10:38:03 AM PDT by Mr Ramsbotham (Laws against sodomy are honored in the breech.)
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To: ken5050

She has a ZERO rating from an organization trying to stop illegal aliens from getting bennies from the government. She is an illegal alien’s best friend.


8 posted on 10/08/2012 10:44:05 AM PDT by RochesterNYconservative (ROMNEY/RYAN 20121)
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To: treetopsandroofs

He is as caucasion as it gets...he is Rochester’s Rush Limbaugh, but he is far from getting it right on many occasions. He was the one who Glenn Beck fired as a vacation replacement for his radio show for unknown reasons.


9 posted on 10/08/2012 10:45:38 AM PDT by RochesterNYconservative (ROMNEY/RYAN 20121)
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To: Mr Ramsbotham

This article has nothing to do with older people driving...it is more about Ms. Slaughter’s uselessness as a congresswoman...one who has been one for over 20 years with little accomplishment behind it. Also, she tends to be interested in women’s issues (liberal women’s issues, that is).


10 posted on 10/08/2012 10:47:51 AM PDT by RochesterNYconservative (ROMNEY/RYAN 20121)
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To: RochesterNYconservative; JRandomFreeper

OK, let’s get rid of people who have lived long enough to live through history and how that relates to what is happening today.

When are people useless, at what age? Let’s decide and get rid of these people - maybe mass confinement or whatever - don’t give them water and they will be gone in 3-4 days.

If anyone wants to get rid of me at my age of 80, put me in a “home” or worse, be prepared for a fight - my tactical vest is loaded and so is my gun. My vision is 20/20 and my brain works extremely well which it always has.

Voters will decide about Louise based on her performance whether she is 21 or 90.


11 posted on 10/08/2012 10:50:31 AM PDT by Marcella (Republican Conservatism is dead. PREPARE.)
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To: RochesterNYconservative

MOST Gramma’s are more lucid and ANYONE that listens to RAP music..
RAP music is not music, its not even poetry.. or prose..
Its Propaganda or worse Agitprop..

Amazing how stupid MOST American children have become..
Not slow or stunted or even ignorant but STUPID..
12 years of public school has destroyed their desire to learn anything..

Its not an accident either.. it was done with forethought and amazing connivance..
By teachers Unions and democrat politicians and not a few republicans..

Should be a Capital crime.. the dumbing down of America.. ON PURPOSE..
The punishment...... HANGING!... (after being water boarded for names of other criminals)..


12 posted on 10/08/2012 10:52:04 AM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole..)
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To: Marcella

But she acts totally confused and befuddled. That is why she does few interviews and will not do town hall meetings and never does press conferences.

Performance? She has done abhorantly as congresswoman. The only reason she gets re elected is gerrymandering and the fact the idiots in her district would vote for Judas over Jesus as long as (D) comes after the name.

Here, for the uninformed of her record:

http://www.ontheissues.org/NY/Louise_Slaughter.htm

Voted NO on banning federal health coverage that includes abortion. (May 2011)
Voted YES on expanding research to more embryonic stem cell lines. (Jan 2007)
Voted YES on allowing human embryonic stem cell research. (May 2005)
Voted NO on restricting interstate transport of minors to get abortions. (Apr 2005)
Voted NO on making it a crime to harm a fetus during another crime. (Feb 2004)
Voted NO on banning partial-birth abortion except to save mother’s life. (Oct 2003)
Voted NO on forbidding human cloning for reproduction & medical research. (Feb 2003)
Voted NO on funding for health providers who don’t provide abortion info. (Sep 2002)
Voted NO on banning Family Planning funding in US aid abroad. (May 2001)
Voted NO on federal crime to harm fetus while committing other crimes. (Apr 2001)
Voted NO on banning partial-birth abortions. (Apr 2000)
Voted NO on barring transporting minors to get an abortion. (Jun 1999)
Endorsed Recommended by EMILY’s List of pro-choice women. (Apr 2001)
Rated 100% by NARAL, indicating a pro-choice voting record. (Dec 2003)
Expand contraceptive services for low-income women. (May 2006)
Emergency contraception for rape victims at all hospitals. (Sep 2006)
Rated 0% by the NRLC, indicating a pro-choice stance. (Dec 2006)
Sponsored bill allowing military abortions in cases of rape. (Jun 2011)
Ensure access to and funding for contraception. (Feb 2007)
Sponsored bill allowing emergency contraception. (Jan 2009)
Voted NO on building a fence along the Mexican border. (Sep 2006)
Voted NO on preventing tipping off Mexicans about Minuteman Project. (Jun 2006)
Voted NO on reporting illegal aliens who receive hospital treatment. (May 2004)
Voted YES on extending Immigrant Residency rules. (May 2001)
Voted YES on more immigrant visas for skilled workers. (Sep 1998)
Rated 0% by FAIR, indicating a voting record loosening immigration. (Dec 2003)
Rated 0% by USBC, indicating an open-border stance. (Dec 2006)


13 posted on 10/08/2012 10:56:39 AM PDT by RochesterNYconservative (ROMNEY/RYAN 20121)
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To: livius

Not term limits but a maximium age. How about we set 80 as the oldest you can be to run.


14 posted on 10/08/2012 10:56:46 AM PDT by Alas Babylon!
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To: hosepipe

This is not about Grandmother’s...this is about one of the most liberal, nutty, out of touch congresswoman in western NY...who happens to be an octogenarian.


15 posted on 10/08/2012 10:58:31 AM PDT by RochesterNYconservative (ROMNEY/RYAN 20121)
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To: RochesterNYconservative

Alas, I neglected to read the entire article, or I would have known that. I’m a bad dog, and shall have no biscuit today. <:-(


16 posted on 10/08/2012 11:02:00 AM PDT by Mr Ramsbotham (Laws against sodomy are honored in the breech.)
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To: RochesterNYconservative
Back when Bush was president and gas prices were first pushing $3 / gallon, she proposed ( informally but publicly I believe, I don’t recall if she actually introduced it in the House) legislation that would cap prices at $2.50 / gallon when they were already well above that. That means one of two things:

Breathtaking ignorance of economics or

She's a shameless hack

Seeing how she has nothing to say as gas is approaching $6 in CA and there’s a dem-hole in the Whitehouse, that proves she’s a shameless partisan hack.

But I’ll wager she’s also economically ignorant as well.

17 posted on 10/08/2012 11:04:21 AM PDT by wny
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To: RochesterNYconservative
She is a Democrat and that's the way she votes. There is a comment on here that she was seen/heard on a sub-committee that held hearings and she was fine.

You wouldn't like her politics if she was 21, and you won't vote for her which is the thing to do. If the others in her district are happy with her, they will vote her back in.

18 posted on 10/08/2012 11:05:02 AM PDT by Marcella (Republican Conservatism is dead. PREPARE.)
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To: Alas Babylon!

I think you’re going to run into discrimination laws then.

An incompetent 80 yr old is not likely to be elected for the first time (or if he or she is, that means this person is actually capable of the job and was capable of campaigning). Most of the 80+ or even 70+ elected reps are people who have had multiple terms.

Limit them all to two terms in whatever position it is, and the problem would be solved.


19 posted on 10/08/2012 11:05:26 AM PDT by livius
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To: RochesterNYconservative
Welcome to FR.

I thought this article was about Pelosi.

5.56mm

20 posted on 10/08/2012 11:08:18 AM PDT by M Kehoe
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To: Marcella

Her district was gerrymandered. It was formerly the district of respected conservative congressman Barber Conable. It is a disgrace it went from Conable to this clown.


21 posted on 10/08/2012 11:08:35 AM PDT by RochesterNYconservative (ROMNEY/RYAN 20121)
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To: RochesterNYconservative; All

Ronald Reagan was 69 when voted in as President. He was re-elected when he was 72. Gee, he was old, must not have accomplished anything at those ages. /s


22 posted on 10/08/2012 11:11:58 AM PDT by Marcella (Republican Conservatism is dead. PREPARE.)
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To: RochesterNYconservative

They are obsessed with abortion and birth control. I would not call that women’s issues as much as watermelon population control and eugenics issues.

Some ditzy women fall for the hate-bait angle every time; especially black women whose race was directly targeted for extermination by Planned Parenthood’s founders.

With leftist agenda, the “us versus them” usually means “me against myself.”


23 posted on 10/08/2012 11:13:12 AM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: Marcella
Voters will decide about Louise based on her performance whether she is 21 or 90.

Nope, only the (D) or (R) is relevant, most Congressman are elected on a straight ticket vote.

24 posted on 10/08/2012 11:21:23 AM PDT by itsahoot (I'll write in Palin in 2012. That is 1 vote for Palin, 0 votes for Romney and Zer0 votes for Obama.)
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To: Marcella

Are you comparing Ronald Reagan to that moonbat Louise Slaughter, who opposed everything Reagan stood for?


25 posted on 10/08/2012 11:26:02 AM PDT by RochesterNYconservative (ROMNEY/RYAN 20121)
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To: itsahoot

“Nope, only the (D) or (R) is relevant, most Congressman are elected on a straight ticket vote.”

If Democrat voters seriously wanted to reject her, they wouldn’t vote straight ticket so they could dump her. If they are voting straight ticket, then they accept her.


26 posted on 10/08/2012 11:29:18 AM PDT by Marcella (Republican Conservatism is dead. PREPARE.)
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To: RochesterNYconservative

Not a fan of Lonsberry, just don’t like the messenger. This column is weak, there is so much low hanging fruit to pick in the form of her record. Wasn’t Lady Slaughter ready to shred the Constitution to deem Obamacare passed? There’s also a You Tube video out there where Paul Ryan shreds her to pieces in a hearing. Hope Maggie defeats her.


27 posted on 10/08/2012 11:40:02 AM PDT by Fair Paul
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To: RochesterNYconservative

Oddly, she looks a little Gerald Ford

I mean the way he looks now.


28 posted on 10/08/2012 11:48:43 AM PDT by muir_redwoods (Hopey changey low emission unicorns and a crap sandwich)
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To: RochesterNYconservative
“Are you comparing Ronald Reagan to that moonbat Louise Slaughter, who opposed everything Reagan stood for?”

You are the one who posted this thread about her age, I didn't. If you were a little more on the ball, you would know I posted about Reagan because he was “old” when he was elected and re-elected. That is comparing ages, not policy and if you couldn't figure that out, perhaps you need an IQ test. I also notice you are a newbie to this forum.

29 posted on 10/08/2012 11:50:19 AM PDT by Marcella (Republican Conservatism is dead. PREPARE.)
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To: RochesterNYconservative

Slaughter was first elected to Congress in 1986. Her ACU ratings over the years ranged from a high of 17 in 1990 to absolute zero in 1994, 2001, 2002, 2004, 2007, 2008 and 2010 with a 25 year lifetime overall average of 4.99. The only other year she had a double digit rating was her first year in 1987 at a 10. She has been the direct beneficiary of gerrymandering of her district from the suburbs to include the inner city of Rochester as the overall population of New York State decreased because of residents fleeing the state due to the stratospheric taxes enacted by a RAT-dominated state legislature(to support their downstate liberal base in New York City).


30 posted on 10/08/2012 11:52:28 AM PDT by immadashell
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To: yarddog

My Mom will be 90 next month. She is healthy and sharp as a tac. She drives all over the place and has a better social life than we do. She also still cleans her own house and works in the yard.


31 posted on 10/08/2012 11:56:05 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: RochesterNYconservative

Julia Carson was illiterate AND senile and hung on to her Congress seat here in Indianapolis until she died. Then they elected her grandson who’s even worse - a liberal AND a Muzzie.


32 posted on 10/08/2012 11:59:19 AM PDT by nascarnation (Defeat Baraq 2012. Deport Baraq 2013)
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To: Marcella

Marcella, Reagan was vigorous and agile in his later 70s. Slaughter is not agile nor quick, even 10 years ago. In fact, she had to be arm twisted into debating Maggie Brooks. It is not so much I am a newbie, or that I posted an article by Bob Lonsberry about the age issue, is that you did not even read a word of the article. If you saw how she looks and sounds on C-Span you would be profusely apologizing and kowtowing to me like Obama to a third world dictator!


33 posted on 10/08/2012 12:02:57 PM PDT by RochesterNYconservative (ROMNEY/RYAN 20121)
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To: RochesterNYconservative
“It is not so much I am a newbie, or that I posted an article by Bob Lonsberry about the age issue, is that you did not even read a word of the article.”

As Reagan would say, “There you go again...” making assumptions as to what I did or didn't do.

I always read an entire article before commenting. If you weren't a newbie, you would know that about me. Our conversation is done - you aren't going to vote for a Democrat and the other voters will vote as they wish - end of story.

34 posted on 10/08/2012 12:14:14 PM PDT by Marcella (Republican Conservatism is dead. PREPARE.)
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To: Fair Paul

Louise was one of the few congresswoman who absolutely refused to hold town hall meetings on Obamacare. I have very little respect for her, but the fact she is not accountable for her votes and is unwilling to face the public and defend her votes, shows me she is a slimeball. She is also one of the proponents of the Fairness Doctrine, which will be damaging to conservative talk radio.


35 posted on 10/08/2012 12:15:07 PM PDT by RochesterNYconservative (ROMNEY/RYAN 20121)
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To: Marcella

You seem very defensive and on the ropes here. I will cut you some slack. I am not a true newbie, by the way, as I have read articles on this site for years before I became a member. End of story...game set and match ME!


36 posted on 10/08/2012 12:17:29 PM PDT by RochesterNYconservative (ROMNEY/RYAN 20121)
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To: RochesterNYconservative

[ This is not about Grandmother’s...this is about one of the most liberal, nutty, out of touch congresswoman in western NY...who happens to be an octogenarian. ]

Jeese Louise grasshopper.. I’m almost seventy and my good friend is ninety and in better health than I am..

ALL DEMOCRATS should be retired not just the old ones..
The entire party has been and is an insult to this Republic.. from the beginning..

The very meaning of democrat is a flawed concept..
No democracy has even yet been democratic or ever will be..
Democracy is a lie.. Democracy is Mob Rule by mobsters..
Democracy is the political disease with a symptom of socialism..
ALL DEMOCRATS should be retired or HUNG..


Democracy is the road to socialism. -Karl Marx

Democracy is indispensable to socialism. The goal of socialism is communism. -V.I. Lenin

The meaning of peace is the absence of opposition to socialism .-Karl Marx


37 posted on 10/08/2012 12:22:01 PM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole..)
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To: livius
Then we should amend the Constitution. In it, it disallows any one younger than 25 to serve in the House, 30 to serve in the Senate, and 35 to serve as President. That too is age discrimination, but it is allowed by the US Constitution.

The Founders put it in there because they know that with age comes wisdom. They never expected, however, to see octogenarians plus still serving. In those days, people that old had a coveted position.

By the fire place!

And you've probably heard the expression, "There's no fool like and old fool!"

38 posted on 10/08/2012 12:39:29 PM PDT by Alas Babylon!
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To: ken5050

Sorry. Being a leftist lunatic hatemonger is not an issue of age.


39 posted on 10/08/2012 1:22:07 PM PDT by pabianice (washington, dc ..)
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To: Alas Babylon!

Well, that may be true...I think the downward limit is good, and we have that for a number of things (drivers licenses, for example).

But nobody who started running for office at an advanced age would be elected - unless they happened to be really, truly worthy, and in that case there’s no problem.

The only ones who take their seats in the legislature in their late 70s or 80s (or even 90s) are people who have had way too many terms. Limit EVERYBODY to two terms and there’s no problem.

There are many reasons other than old age for which we should impose term limits. By the 3rd or 4th term, any legislator is going to be so corrupt and bought out by different groups that he or she has ceased to perform any useful function, and in fact that’s one of the reason that they all retire (eventually) as millionaires. In addition, they have stopped younger and better talent from coming up behind them.

2 terms, no more.


40 posted on 10/08/2012 1:25:37 PM PDT by livius
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To: RochesterNYconservative

83 is old, but corrine brown, my rep, behaves as if oxygen supply is cut off for a reasonable thought.


41 posted on 10/08/2012 1:26:25 PM PDT by Quick Shot
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To: Marcella

You could say my sister is a cougar, she’s 80 and her boyfriend is 69......LOL


42 posted on 10/08/2012 1:46:19 PM PDT by goat granny
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To: goat granny

“You could say my sister is a cougar, she’s 80 and her boyfriend is 69......LOL”

Being old and thinking/acting old are two different things. Your sister is living her life, not sitting knitting all the time and giving up. Good for her.


43 posted on 10/08/2012 1:56:01 PM PDT by Marcella (Republican Conservatism is dead. PREPARE.)
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To: Marcella

She is in better health than her boyfriend....He’s a nice guy, a legal Tex Mex...plays drums in a band, sells stuff at flea markets....yep, they haven’t slowed down...sister also had bi-lateral hip replacements. Kept her down for a couple of months in healing of the second hip replacement, breezed through the 1st one...


44 posted on 10/08/2012 2:02:43 PM PDT by goat granny
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To: RochesterNYconservative

I was born and raised in Rochester, but haven’t lived there since 1972. I spent the summer of 2011 there because my sister was in hospice care, and it was then that I first discovered Bob Lonsberry’s radio show. I was delighted to find out that his program is replayed on a Syracuse station in the afternoon, so when I’m out and about, I get to listen to him. He’s excellent.


45 posted on 10/08/2012 2:32:33 PM PDT by mass55th (Courage is being scared to death - but saddling up anyway...John Wayne)
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To: livius

There are a lot of good representatives and senators though who haved served more than two terms:

Paul Ryan, Michele Bachmann, Jeff Sessions, Jim DeMint, John Barasso, Joe Wilson, Mike Pence, and Marsh Blackburn, to name a few.

We’d lose those stalwarts. And non-elected staffers would have far more power than they do today.


46 posted on 10/08/2012 2:48:38 PM PDT by Alas Babylon!
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To: Alas Babylon!

Representatives (because they have such short terms) could probably have more - it would have to be four (eight years) in order to keep the staggered effect.

But then they should simply go on to something else. Run for governor, for Senator, or just go back to whatever they did before becoming politicians.


47 posted on 10/08/2012 3:52:53 PM PDT by livius
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To: RochesterNYconservative
Granny Panties Kirsten Gillibrand

Pretty funny nickname. Where did it come from?

48 posted on 10/08/2012 6:07:11 PM PDT by GunRunner (***Not associated with any criminal actions by the ATF***)
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To: GunRunner

For a relatively young woman (she is 46), she dresses like a dowdy old lday.


49 posted on 10/09/2012 5:05:58 AM PDT by RochesterNYconservative (ROMNEY/RYAN 20121)
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