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Did Obama Just Throw The Entire Election Away?
The Daily Beast ^ | Oct. 8, 2012 | Andrew Sullivan

Posted on 10/08/2012 7:11:27 PM PDT by Free ThinkerNY

The Pew poll is devastating, just devastating. Before the debate, Obama had a 51 - 43 lead; now, Romney has a 49 - 45 lead. That's a simply unprecedented reversal for a candidate in October. Before Obama had leads on every policy issue and personal characteristic; now Romney leads in almost all of them. Obama's performance gave Romney a 12 point swing! I repeat: a 12 point swing.

Romney's favorables are above Obama's now. Yes, you read that right. Romney's favorables are higher than Obama's right now. That gender gap that was Obama's firewall? Over in one night:

Currently, women are evenly divided (47% Obama, 47% Romney). Last month, Obama led Romney by 18 points (56% to 38%) among women likely voters.

Seriously: has that kind of swing ever happened this late in a campaign? Has any candidate lost 18 points among women voters in one night ever? And we are told that when Obama left the stage that night, he was feeling good. That's terrifying. On every single issue, Obama has instantly plummeted into near-oblivion. He still has some personal advantages over Romney - even though they are all much diminished. Obama still has an edge on Medicare, scores much higher on relating to ordinary people, is ahead on foreign policy, and on being moderate, consistent and honest (only 14 percent of swing voters believe Romney is honest). But on the core issues of the economy and the deficit, Romney is now kicking the president's ass:

By a 37% to 24% margin, more swing voters say Romney would improve the job situation. Swing voters favor Romney on the deficit by a two-to-one (41% vs. 20%) margin.... Romney has gained ground on several of these measures since earlier in the campaign.

(Excerpt) Read more at andrewsullivan.thedailybeast.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2012debates; 2012polls; andrewsullivan; debates; obamasnewclothes; obameltdown; riggedpolls
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1 posted on 10/08/2012 7:11:34 PM PDT by Free ThinkerNY
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Lets not get to far ahead of ourselves here


2 posted on 10/08/2012 7:12:42 PM PDT by al baby (“If Barack Obama has a Harvard law degree, he didn’t earn that. Somebody else made that happen.”)
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To: al baby

Amen. But, it is a relief to see.

Maybe I’ll reach my goal to die on the porch whittling, after all!


3 posted on 10/08/2012 7:15:31 PM PDT by One Name (Ultimately, the TRUTH is a razor's edge and no man can sit astride it.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

“Obama still has an edge on Medicare, scores much higher on relating to ordinary people, is ahead on foreign policy, and on being moderate, consistent and honest. . .”

What color is the sky in Andrew Sullivan’s world?


4 posted on 10/08/2012 7:15:44 PM PDT by stanne
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To: Free ThinkerNY

29 more Obama stinking days to go.....


5 posted on 10/08/2012 7:16:37 PM PDT by Gator113 (I would have voted for NEWT, now it's Ryan and the other guy.~Just livin' life, my way~)
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To: al baby

Agree. Rasmussen’s Daily Tracking is dead even at 48% R and 48% O


6 posted on 10/08/2012 7:16:55 PM PDT by Steelfish (ui)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
Election is a long time away. Obama will likely start a war before the election; that may help him.

Who knows what dirty tricks they have in their bags.

7 posted on 10/08/2012 7:17:59 PM PDT by HereInTheHeartland (Encourage all of your Democrat friends to get out and vote on November 7th, the stakes are high.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

What a drama queen. (Sullivan that is.)


8 posted on 10/08/2012 7:18:12 PM PDT by Just mythoughts (Please help Todd Akin defeat Claire and the GOP-e send money!!!!!)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
There hasn't been such an incompetent nincompoop in office before.

This is what happened. Most of the O-bambi-bots finally opened their eyes. Critical mass was reached. “Oh my” they said. “This joker just doesn't have it.” And they switched.

9 posted on 10/08/2012 7:19:06 PM PDT by Battle Axe (Repent, for the coming of the Lord is nigh.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

As long as Obama does better in the next debate (it’s a town meeting, so very different), he’ll be declared a winner, even if it’s a tie.


10 posted on 10/08/2012 7:19:47 PM PDT by nuconvert ( Khomeini promised change too // Hail, Chairman O)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Squirming libs give me a hedonistic delight, for which I am convicted, somewhat.

Not that much, though.

Really very little, now that I think about it. They are, after all, Godless vermin.(In need of salvation).

But, then, Mormons could use a dose of the Truth as well.

Things just aren’t simple anymore.


11 posted on 10/08/2012 7:20:41 PM PDT by One Name (Ultimately, the TRUTH is a razor's edge and no man can sit astride it.)
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To: al baby

Isn’t Andrew Sullivan a liberal blogger? This isn’t our side getting giddy - it’s their side panicking.


12 posted on 10/08/2012 7:22:23 PM PDT by Personal Responsibility (The Left blaming Jim Lehrer for the debate is like blaming Lincoln's assassination on the play.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Why does he think the entire shift is attributable to the debate?


13 posted on 10/08/2012 7:23:32 PM PDT by paglia444
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To: Free ThinkerNY

I hope Romney and/or Ryan bring up the fact that a huge per-cent of doctors plan to shut their doors down if Obama Care isn’t repealed. I wish Romney would of said it right to Obama Sleeping Face! After Thursday night it will be “2-0” !!


14 posted on 10/08/2012 7:23:40 PM PDT by Who_Ate_My_Dog
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To: Free ThinkerNY

When Obama used the cooked up numbers on unemployment in a speech, he lost many of those millions of unemployed who know things are only getting worse.


15 posted on 10/08/2012 7:23:44 PM PDT by SeaHawkFan
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To: Free ThinkerNY
One thing to realize is that this election probably doesn't mean much to Obama. Sure, he is going through the motions for the DNC, but his goals and aspirations are much larger than the office he holds at moment or the country he represents today.
16 posted on 10/08/2012 7:24:00 PM PDT by Baynative
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To: Free ThinkerNY
Lies work when they are unrebutted live on stage.

Herein lies the answer to what happened in the debate. Romney DID rebut all of Obama's lies, and he did it on stage in front of 80 million people.

17 posted on 10/08/2012 7:24:03 PM PDT by lwoodham (I am Andrew Breitbart. Don't doubt me on this.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Women didn’t like his failure to perform?


18 posted on 10/08/2012 7:24:55 PM PDT by TigerClaws
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To: Free ThinkerNY

“Has any candidate lost 18 points among women voters in one night ever?”

Obama could do even more if he just announced the following:

Obama: “I, um, uh, have an important announcement for all the women in America. Yes, those pants do make your a$$ look fat.”


19 posted on 10/08/2012 7:24:59 PM PDT by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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To: HereInTheHeartland
Obama will do something drastic, his back is up against the wall now, and he has nothing to lose.

Romney just kicked the sleeping dog.

20 posted on 10/08/2012 7:25:16 PM PDT by annieokie (O)
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To: al baby

I agree. National polls matter some, but it is the individual state polls that matter much more.


21 posted on 10/08/2012 7:25:32 PM PDT by rawhide
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To: stanne
What color is the sky in Andrew Sullivan’s world?

Anus-brown.

22 posted on 10/08/2012 7:26:14 PM PDT by Junior_G (Funny how liberals' love affair with Muslims began on 9/11)
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To: al baby

I think Sullivan may be coming up on Obama’s rear flank


23 posted on 10/08/2012 7:28:45 PM PDT by woofie (It takes three villages and a forest of woodland creatures to raise a child in Obamaville)
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To: Personal Responsibility

The thing about the debate is that it affected Obama supporters in a profound way. I was never going to vote for him, but Obama’s performance just broke the spirits of his supporters.

It was as if the scales were lifted from their eyes and they saw that they had been following a false messiah.


24 posted on 10/08/2012 7:29:00 PM PDT by MediaMole
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To: stanne

“Obama still has an edge on Medicare”

I don’t know how anyone on medicare can say obama is better, obamacare just totally screwed anyone on medicare!!!!

He stripped medicare advantage programs to give health coverage to the illegals and welfare cases!!!


25 posted on 10/08/2012 7:30:20 PM PDT by dalereed
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To: HereInTheHeartland

How is it that his strongest supporters know he is a shiftless liar, fraud and incompetent yet they continue to fight for his success? The reason is simple. It does not have to do with O. It is their absolute commitment to the success of their Marxist revolution. These are the real enemies of our nation, our Constitution and our way of life.
We are as close as we have ever been to destruction from within. Our civil war did not pose as great a threat.
It is horrifying to consider the likelihood of the continued march of evil under a Romney presidency but we have no guarantee it will not be just so. We have an absolute guarantee that a continued O presidency will bring our nation to its final end.
This election is not about hope. It is about a choice between the end of the US as a sovereign republic or a momentary pause in its destruction, however fleeting.


26 posted on 10/08/2012 7:30:41 PM PDT by Louis Foxwell (Better the devil we can destroy than the Judas we must tolerate.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

I have a feeling many of those women will be back. Just keep repeating “Free Birth Control” over and over.


27 posted on 10/08/2012 7:31:49 PM PDT by rbg81
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To: Junior_G

Hey -uncalled for


28 posted on 10/08/2012 7:32:35 PM PDT by stanne
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To: Louis Foxwell

Folks, the Pew poll was not that big of swing. They dramatically shifted their polling from Dem +8 to R+3. We can’t get too cocky. Also realize they will, after the next debate, swing back to a +6 D sample and show that Obama got a swing back his way.


29 posted on 10/08/2012 7:32:43 PM PDT by shoedog
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To: Free ThinkerNY; a fool in paradise

There’s been some speculation here that the Kenyan doesn’t really want to be re-elected. I think it is plausible, and I thought it would make for an interesting premise of a novel or movie. Imagine that it is actually true. It’s unprecedented in modern times (yes, I remember LBJ, Captain Obvious!) Who can he tell? Certainly not the powers that be at the DNC, certainly not Valerie, not even Moochie. (That’s my dramatic premise, all right? Is it worthy, say, Danielle Steel, or Tom Clancy’s ghost writer college kids?) It could be quite a drama, and I believe that it may even be true.


30 posted on 10/08/2012 7:33:14 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong!)
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To: Battle Axe
“Oh my” they said. “This joker just doesn't have it.” And they switched.

They haven't switched. They're still in free-fall with NOTHING to grab hold.

It must suck to be a Dim right about now.

31 posted on 10/08/2012 7:34:00 PM PDT by stboz
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To: stanne; Junior_G

Would saying instead “fudge brown” satisfy your cheating heart?


32 posted on 10/08/2012 7:35:04 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong!)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Keep praying each day for Romney/Ryan and for our nation.

Obama has brought us to a very vulnerable point—both militarily and economically. He must be booted out on November 6th—the future of your children and grandchildren depend on it.

Even if you usually don’t engage in politics with folks and family—if you are ever going to do it, now is the time.Now is the time to help olks understand the truth and the real issues.

After November 6th, it won’t matter anymore.


33 posted on 10/08/2012 7:36:01 PM PDT by exit82 (Pass the word: Obama is a FAILURE!! Democrats are the enemies of freedom!)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
This piece, and more to come from the MSM, are being written now to set up the "Obama, Comeback Kid" narrative. From the depths of despair, the Messiah will lead them all.

Ignore them all, and work to beat The Empty Chair.

34 posted on 10/08/2012 7:36:12 PM PDT by TonyInOhio ("But, the Obama has no clothes!")
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To: al baby

Anyone here who thinks the race is over is a bit loco! Just heard Thompson on Greta and he made an excellent point. When Greta asked him about Obumbler 181million, Thompson said that the O camp is probably quitely buying massive votes, busing them by the bus loads to the voting booths for early voting. That along with the massive tv ad! WOW, that was an eye opener! It didn’t hit me until Fred pointed that out....181 million can buy you a whole mess of bus load votes! I hope RNC is keeping a close eye on dirty RATS! The illegal campaign cash has already turned into votes...too late to do anything about it! God help us!


35 posted on 10/08/2012 7:37:11 PM PDT by RoseofTexas
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To: Who_Ate_My_Dog
I hope Romney and/or Ryan bring up the fact that a huge per-cent of doctors plan to shut their doors down if Obama Care isn’t repealed. I wish Romney would of said it right to Obama Sleeping Face! After Thursday night it will be “2-0” !!

I actually did think he mentioned this in debate number one.....maybe I was dreaming!

36 posted on 10/08/2012 7:38:30 PM PDT by pollywog ("O Thou who changest not, abide with me.".......)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Poor little pillow-biter’s so scared his sphincter has slammed shut. And that ain’t no easy thang.


37 posted on 10/08/2012 7:39:07 PM PDT by paddles ("The more corrupt the state, the more it legislates." Tacitus)
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To: Steelfish

This is terrifying when Rasmussen gets us at only even, following a game changing blow out that likely can’t be duplicated anywhere near the margin seen on Wednesday night.

There better truly be a silent majority out there, or this thing lands in the Supreme Court counting fraudulent ballots.


38 posted on 10/08/2012 7:39:07 PM PDT by RitaOK ( VIVA CHRISTO REY)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

One Pub pollster noted that this poll is skewed +5% for Republicans. Previous polls were mostly +9-11% Democrat. Neither is likely accurate. However what’s telling is Romney is up something like 17% among independents, which doesn’t change no matter which is oversampled. Obama won independents by 12% in 2008.


39 posted on 10/08/2012 7:39:54 PM PDT by Hugin ("Most times a man'll tell you his bad intentions, if you listen and let yourself hear."---Open Range)
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To: Baynative

Do tell. Ambition is not generally a trait found in choom blowers, quitters and people who rise at 11AM and turn on ESPN for the rest of the day.

I seriously wonder what other ambitions he has? Snorkeling? Shave Ice eating? Bath houses? Golf?


40 posted on 10/08/2012 7:39:54 PM PDT by atc23 (The Confederacy was the single greatest conservative resistance to federal authority ever.u)
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To: Baynative

He wants to win - he’s just programmed to have everything given to him and he’s counting on all his enablers to do his fighting for him; like idiot Andrew Sullivan, just one of barry’s slaves.


41 posted on 10/08/2012 7:40:23 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Andrew Sullivan has an Eyore moment. Love it!

Let’s none of us get cocky. Let’s hope we have good reason to feel cocky that first Monday in November and let’s STILL not feel that way.

We’ve got to vote like our lives and country depend on it, because they do.

And besides, think how sad the fake, phony, fraud and Palin-uterus-stalker Andrew Sullivan will feel when Obama loses. That ALONE is worth a Romney victory. Him and all the rest of them.


42 posted on 10/08/2012 7:41:43 PM PDT by jocon307
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To: TigerClaws
50 Shades of Grey reminded women they like alpha males after all. Obama in his Mom jeans and geeky bike helmet just doesn't get it done any more.
43 posted on 10/08/2012 7:42:22 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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Add me / Remove me

Please ping me to note-worthy Pro-Life or Catholic threads, or other threads of general interest.


44 posted on 10/08/2012 7:42:44 PM PDT by narses
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To: Free ThinkerNY

45 posted on 10/08/2012 7:43:04 PM PDT by MuttTheHoople (Obama does not have the work ethic to be Anti-Christ.)
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To: Baynative

Like running the UN one day?


46 posted on 10/08/2012 7:43:44 PM PDT by Molon Labbie (Prep. Now. Live Healthy, take your Shooting Iron daily.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
The proud one shall stumble and fall, with none to raise him up, and I will kindle a fire in his cities, and it will devour all that is around him.

Jeremiah 50:32

47 posted on 10/08/2012 7:44:26 PM PDT by rawcatslyentist ("Behold, I am against you, O arrogant one," Jeremiah 50:31)
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To: Battle Axe

“nincompoop”

Battle Axe you are right, that is what he is. I often use that word for him myself.

It is basically a polite (and shorter) way to call him a stuttering cluster-f*ck of a miserable failure.

Only nincompoop is really better, because it implies more dunderheadedness.


48 posted on 10/08/2012 7:44:35 PM PDT by jocon307
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To: Free ThinkerNY

The Amazing Shrinking President


49 posted on 10/08/2012 7:44:45 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Romney vs Obama, Round One: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oyNxHOZiQPA)
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To: atc23
I seriously wonder what other ambitions he has

Bankrupt America and abolish the Constitution. He needs another term to complete that. Our credit rating already dropped under his admin.

50 posted on 10/08/2012 7:45:25 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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