Skip to comments.US sources: US, Israel plan October Surprise. Others: Israel can do it alone
Posted on 10/09/2012 6:37:45 AM PDT by Snuph
Four facts deserve attention with regard to a potential attack on Irans nuclear facilities. The first is that the Iranian-Israeli war is already at hand. Iran launched it by sending an unmanned drone into Israeli air space Saturday, Oct. 6, breaking new ground in belligerence with a cyber attack. Israel countered by stationing Patriot missile interceptor batteries in Haifa and other parts of its northern region. That Tehran initiated hostilities with a cyber attack on Israel cannot be wiped from the record any more than its score: two points, Iran; zero, Israel, whose air defenses proved no match against a large, slow-moving and cumbersome aerial vehicle loaded with electronic equipment. As many experts have pointed out, Patriots are not designed for intercepting aircraft, only missiles. Their deployment therefore aims at defending the country from potential Iranian or Hizballah missile strikes from Lebanon or Syria - depending partly on the state of the Syrian war.
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Debka making up more b.s.
Debka.... rofl my dog had more credibility!
All of this joint US-Israel attack talk today is coming from dim operatives. I don’t doubt for a second that BO’s handlers are looking at this now as a game changer which they didn’t feel was needed just days ago.
Hopefully Netanyahu sees through this charade.
I don't know what idiot thinks these people who say this are, but they are no experts!
The Patriot system WAS and IS a ground to AIR THREAT RESPONSE SYSTEM!
PAC-1 (Retired) and PAC-2 interceptors are anti-air missiles. PAC-3 is a missile interceptor.
There will be no attack on Iran before the election. Obama simply will not allow it. Our big blue water ships are very vulnerable to Chinese supplied shore to ship missiles in the narrow confines of the Persian Gulf. If hostilities occur we might witness the the loss of capital ships and heavy casualties. It would rightly be a political disaster for Obama. His entire Mideast policy is already under severe criticism.
I do not know what “experts” Debka has consulted, but PATRIOT was designed for the “air breathing threat” (airplanes), and the missile defense capability was a nice discovery.
This report is hogwash.
I’ve been away from the system for over 20 years, but I heard that they came out with a PAC 4 missile.
Trivia - Do you know what the PATRIOT acronym stands for? :) (I swear that the Pentagon has a team of acronym-savants locked away in a subbasement somewhere...)
Israel should trumpet some very basic facts.
If the US attacks Iran, it is powerful enough to selectively target Iran’s nuclear capacity and minimize civilian casualties, while working to prevent the war from becoming a regional conflagration.
If Israel is forced to go it alone, many of these options will not be available to it. For example, since Israel’s conventional forces will be stretched thin, if other nations involve themselves as allies of Iran, or in opportunistic attacks against Israel, Israel will have little choice but to also annihilate those nations’ ability to wage war quickly, in any way in which this may be done.
Even more so, since Israel’s military will be significantly degraded for years after the conflict, conveyance of other regional nations’ belligerent intent against Israel may require Israel to take proactive actions against those nations as well. Israel will no longer be the whipping boy of nations that casually offer it an existential threat.
Israel also must take into account that this is not a traditional war of national conflict, but in essence, a religious war. So the core elements of the religion opposed to Israel may be forfeit. These nations may rely on their god to protect them, or they may save their religion by their government adopting a more secular, less belligerent course.
That they, in future, as national policy, no longer speak out against Israel’s right to exist, nor do they permit agitators in their realm to do so.
“Rothkopf, a former Clinton administration official and international relations expert, quoted a source said to be close to the discussions, which claimed that a small-scale attack is currently viewed as the most likely military option. Such strike, the source said, is likely to only take a few hours and would be conducted by air, using bombers and supported by drones.”
Contrast this with what the administration was putting out just a couple weeks ago led by Gen. Martin Dempsey stating unequivocally that the US would not be complicit in any sort of attack on Iran.
The political dynamics seem to be changing very rapidly, but the idea that this would be a limited operation completely ignores the dynamics in the region.
I'm guessing this is just a trial balloon designed to gauge voter response.
Correction : It’s kind of hard to proclaim this by Israel’s enemies when their landscape has been turned into a green glass parking lot.
No way Barry O lets Israel do anything before the November elections... would be political suicide even for a Dimwit POTUS