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Swing State Report: Race tightens in Ohio as Romney gains (Gary Johnson 10.6% Support in Ohio?)
Human Events ^ | 10/8/2012 | Watchdog.org

Posted on 10/09/2012 6:56:14 AM PDT by xzins

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There had been some discussion about whether Libertarian candidate Gary Johnson would be the Ralph Nader of this race, after a Gravis Marketing survey two weeks ago had found he had 10.6 percent support in Ohio.

I don't know Gravis Marketing, and I don't know much about Libertarian strength in Ohio, but I do know that many of the local talk radio hosts tend to take libertarian-style positions as they debate.

Wonder if that's strengthened libertarian numbers, and I wonder if libertarians pull as many moderates/liberals as they do fiscal conservatives. I'm pretty sure they don't pull a large number of social conservatives.

1 posted on 10/09/2012 6:56:23 AM PDT by xzins
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odd how these third party kook candidates are never promoted over at leftist sites like the DUmmies.


2 posted on 10/09/2012 6:59:02 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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10.6% of Ohioans could not tell you who Gary Johnson is.

Their best guess would be “a reserve running back for the Cincinnati Bengals”


3 posted on 10/09/2012 7:01:01 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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If Gary Johnson gets 10% in Ohio, I will buy a hat store and eat all of the hats in it.


4 posted on 10/09/2012 7:01:41 AM PDT by babble-on
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To: longtermmemmory

I sent money to Ralph Nader’s party in 2000!


5 posted on 10/09/2012 7:05:00 AM PDT by MNDude (OWS Movement RIP)
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To: xzins

..I wouldn’t worry about the Buckeye state, and after what Walker survived in Wisconsin, I believe it will go RED too,along with Nevada, Colorado, NH, NC and VA...


6 posted on 10/09/2012 7:06:04 AM PDT by WalterSkinner ( In Memory of My Father--WWII Vet and Patriot 1926-2007)
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Gary Johnson is a moron. His switch away from the R party after the primary is simply the desperation attempt of a sore loser. The guy said we should all join the Occupy movement, wants to cut the military in half and thinks Iran is no great threat to our national security because of the idea of “mutual destruction” between the two countries. Also said he would do everything in his power to prevent Israel from striking Iran. Favors the legalization of pot and gay marriage proponent.

Kook job.


7 posted on 10/09/2012 7:10:30 AM PDT by NoobRep
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I’m an Ohioan, and I know who Gary Johnson is, and the people I hang with would pretty much know him, us being political junkies and all, but most of the folks I know do not have a clue who Gary Johnson is and can’t really tell you much about the Libertarian Party.

That’s why I wonder who Gravis Marketing is...I don’t know them.

And, I do wonder if a libertarian vote doesn’t actually pull from Obama more than it does from the republicans.


8 posted on 10/09/2012 7:13:07 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True supporters of our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: NoobRep

What you wrote is why I think he’d pull at least as much from Obama as from Romney, if not more.


9 posted on 10/09/2012 7:14:27 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True supporters of our troops pray for their victory!)
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The Romney/Ryan yard signs have doubled here in SW Ohio since Romney kicked 0’s butt in the debate.


10 posted on 10/09/2012 7:18:23 AM PDT by vortigern
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The 39-year-old Wisconsin mother of four is an undecided Mormon leaning toward Obama.

There. Fixed it.

11 posted on 10/09/2012 7:34:45 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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that is why we should encourage democrat voters to vote for johnson. its a “i didn’t vote for Obama again, but Johnson wants to make pot legal and put in a sales tax.”


12 posted on 10/09/2012 7:44:33 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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So Gary Johnson voters will throw Ohio to Obama?


13 posted on 10/09/2012 7:56:34 AM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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Romney/Ryan bumper stickers are hard to come by in Dayton area. They hand out these stickers that about the size of your fist. Nobody can see that on the back of a vehicle. Yard signs can be found, but precinct leaders gobble them up. Also in Ohio, I see the local Republican organizations are flustrated with the State Republican organization and the National organization. It’s bad when the poor guy going door to door has no support, or gets conflicting messages. They were late to the game, and now are being told to go out and re-canvas everyone for some state issue.


14 posted on 10/09/2012 7:59:07 AM PDT by OrioleFan (Republicans believe every day is July 4th, Democrats believe every day is April 15th.)
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Instead of Romney/Ryan signs — and I, too, am in southwest/central Ohio — I’m seeing a number of blue “nobama” signs.

While I think the message is cute, and I understand it, I wonder how many drive by, see only nobama, don’t think about it, and hear only the obama part.

So, I don’t like the sign. I don’t think it’s a clear message.


15 posted on 10/09/2012 8:20:37 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True supporters of our troops pray for their victory!)
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This is the first I’ve heard of Gary Johnson supporters in Ohio. I live here, and you’d think it would be in the news. But this is from someone named Gravis Marketing....never heard of them, either.

Plus, I’m wondering if they’re 2008 Obama supporters from the truther, anti-wire tap, wings.

Nor does it say if Gravis was polling “voting age adults”, registered, or likely.

But a standard kid who says he’s a libertarian, imho, could just as easily be an Obama supporter. Pro-choice, pro-drugs, etc.


16 posted on 10/09/2012 8:25:28 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True supporters of our troops pray for their victory!)
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The left wing liars of Move On in Ohio and a few other states are in apparent full panic. Below is a copy of the email I received from Move On:

Dear MoveOn member,

There’s breaking news from Ohio. And it’s not good.

For months, shady outside groups have flooded the Ohio airwaves with almost $20 million in ads targeting Sen. Sherrod Brown.

And for months, he’s withstood the onslaught, holding on to a six or seven-point lead.

But this weekend, two new polls came out—one showing a tied race and the other showing Sherrod down four.

This is, in a word, unacceptable.

Sherrod Brown is a fearless fighter for working people who has taken Wall Street head on, and now he’s paying the price. We can’t let Karl Rove and his big money backers win this one. We cannot let it happen. Can you donate to make sure we keep Sherrod in the Senate?

Yes, I’ll donate $5 to win in Ohio.

Senator Brown isn’t the only progressive who’s facing an onslaught of big money this year.

In Wisconsin, conservative Super PACs are hitting Tammy Baldwin after polls show her taking a small lead over her opponent.

Tammy’s another great progressive, who led the fight in the House for the Buffett Rule—to make millionaires pay their fair share. Her opponent, Tommy Thompson, on the other hand, has spent years working for a D.C. lobbying firm fighting for special interests.

In Connecticut, it’s not outside money that’s the problem. It’s Republican Linda McMahon’s almost unlimited personal wealth. She spent $50 million on her failed Senate bid in 2010 and has already spent more than $13 million this year.

But Chris Murphy’s values—fighting for campaign finance reform and quality health care—are much more in line with Connecticut’s voters’, and he’s opened a small lead.

These are races we have to win. But Tammy, Sherrod, and Chris need our help.

Click below to chip in $5:
https://pol.moveon.org/2012c/give/sherrod_brown.html?aa=5&id=54133-21930683-YopCbtx&t=3

Thanks for all you do.
–Daniel, Levana, and the rest of the team
Sources:
1. “Incumbent Sherrod Brown holds lead over Josh Mandel in Ohio’s hotly contested U.S. Senate battle: The Ohio Newspaper Poll,” The Plain Dealer, September 24, 2012
2. “OH Senator ‘12,” TPM Polltracker, accessed October 7, 2012
http://www.moveon.org/r?r=282155&id=54133-21930683-YopCbtx&t=4
3. “Polling Memorandum,” Wenzel Strategies, October 6, 2012
http://www.moveon.org/r?r=282156&id=54133-21930683-YopCbtx&t=5
“Ohio Senate: Brown (D) 46%, Mandel (R) 46%,” Rasmussen Reports, October 7, 2012
http://www.moveon.org/r?r=282157&id=54133-21930683-YopCbtx&t=6
4. “WI Senator ‘12,” TPM Polltracker, accessed October 7, 2012
http://www.moveon.org/r?r=281166&id=54133-21930683-YopCbtx&t=7
5. “The Buffett Rule (Paying a Fair Share Act),” website of Congresswoman Tammy Baldwin, accessed September 21, 2012
http://www.moveon.org/r?r=281167&id=54133-21930683-YopCbtx&t=8
“Tammy Baldwin To Introduce Resolution Opposing Immunity For Banks In Foreclosure Deal,” The Huffington Post, November 3, 2011
http://www.moveon.org/r?r=281531&id=54133-21930683-YopCbtx&t=9
6. “Total Raised and Spent—2010 Race: Connecticut Senate,” OpenSecrets.org, accessed September 21, 2012
http://www.moveon.org/r?r=281160&id=&id=54133-21930683-YopCbtx&t=10
“Total Raised and Spent—2012 Race: Connecticut Senate,” OpenSecrets.org, accessed September 21, 2012
http://www.moveon.org/r?r=281161&id=&id=54133-21930683-YopCbtx&t=11


17 posted on 10/09/2012 8:26:11 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (We are the 53%, who pay taxes and keep this country going inspite of the 47% rat moochers!)
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Sherrod Brown and his supporters have been running a shameful campaign against Josh Mandel for months. You can hardly go to any website without finding little ads about Mandel being unworthy of trust, a liar, a cheat.

Now Brown’s ads are playing that same theme.

Brown’s attacks have had nothing to do with issues at all. They’ve been pure, slimey personal attacks.


18 posted on 10/09/2012 8:30:56 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True supporters of our troops pray for their victory!)
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Rats are only capable of running sleazy and lie filled campaigns when they are in trouble.


19 posted on 10/09/2012 8:39:09 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (We are the 53%, who pay taxes and keep this country going inspite of the 47% rat moochers!)
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And, I do wonder if a libertarian vote doesn’t actually pull from Obama more than it does from the republicans.

Cheech and/or Chong maybe.


20 posted on 10/09/2012 8:48:40 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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