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Obama 'believed he had BEATEN Romney' in Denver debate - after ignoring advice of top aides....
dailymail.co.uk ^ | 10/9/2012 | Toby Harnden

Posted on 10/09/2012 11:18:30 AM PDT by TBBT

- Obama believes he'd got the better of Romney as he walked off stage to the dismay of his aides, according to a Democrat close to the campaign - The President failed to prepare properly, opting instead to visit the Hoover Dam the day before the showdown - Democrat claims he was so disdainful of Romney that he didn't think he needed to even engage with him - Had one-liners on 47% prepared but chose not to use them

watching his debate against Mitt Romney already knew it had been a disaster for him.

But what nobody knew, until now, was that Obama believed he had actually won.

In an extraordinary insight into the events leading up to the 90 minute showdown which changed the face of the election, a Democrat close to the Obama campaign today reveals that the President also did not take his debate preparation seriously, ignored the advice of senior aides and ignored one-liners that had been prepared to wound Romney.

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Extended News; Front Page News; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2012; 2012debates; bhonarcissism; debate; elections; ibarack; narcissism; nobama2012; npd; obama; obamatruthfile; romney; theobamainthebubble
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To: wayoverontheright; Aria
RE: 53 and 38: Obama’s body language puts the lie to this theory.

I agree...
Unless he is insane ... and therein lies the rub...

101 posted on 10/09/2012 1:32:49 PM PDT by El Cid (Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house...)
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To: wayoverontheright

Actually, I think Oblahblah thought that smirking and looking down was all he needed to do to “win”. It must of been a hell of a surprise to him when the MSM didn’t report on his ingenious debate strategy.


102 posted on 10/09/2012 1:33:06 PM PDT by stop_fascism (Love your country, but never trust its government - R.A. Heinlein)
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To: TheThirdRuffian

It will be too late for to have an affect. Will only embarass himself further. I hope he tries it.


103 posted on 10/09/2012 1:33:32 PM PDT by CityCenter (It's too late, Obama yeah, it's too late.)
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To: Sarah Barracuda

My favorite Christmas movie of all time is “A wish for wings that work” with Opus the penguin, etc. In the end some birds grab him and lift him up and he is “flying”, and Opus is all excited “hey guys - I’m flying - I’m REALLY flying!!”

After the closing credits one of the characters appears and says “Don’t get cocky”.

Opus/Obama, hmm....


104 posted on 10/09/2012 1:34:50 PM PDT by 21twelve (So I [God] gave them over to their stubborn hearts to follow their own devices. Psalm 81:12)
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To: crosshairs

Exactly. There was some hidden intelligent meaning there. No need to make him look stupid. -er.


105 posted on 10/09/2012 1:35:25 PM PDT by Tanniker Smith (Rome didn't fall in a day, either.)
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To: uncitizen

One liners in a debate, yeah, that will work! Kerry was his sparring partner. One liners because he can’t remember anything else.


106 posted on 10/09/2012 1:36:29 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: CSM

self ping for later read


107 posted on 10/09/2012 1:39:08 PM PDT by CSM (Keeper of the Dave Ramsey Ping list. FReepmail me if you want your beeber stuned.)
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To: TBBT
It's now certain that he's certifiable. He believes his own lies.

He can't win a debate on his own. Only the enemedia can help him.

108 posted on 10/09/2012 1:39:08 PM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas (Viva Christo Rey!)
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To: ShadowAce

I agree. Even the things he did say wasn’t relevant and some was simply mishmash - it made no sense. I got confirmation of that with the after reports w/Rudy said the same - he couldn’t follow him.


109 posted on 10/09/2012 1:41:16 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: TBBT
Obama obviously never took an economics course, or any other business course for that matter. He has no actual experience in financial management, business management, tax planning, consulting or any other experience besides community organizing on the streets of Chicago. He has never actually engaged with any journalists who would probe his lying statements and challenge their validity.

Because of this lack of education and experience compared to Romney's, Obama will NEVER be capable of beating Romney in a debate...Romney will bury the bastard in the next 2 debates!!!
110 posted on 10/09/2012 1:41:34 PM PDT by Stayfree (Find out how Obama is destroying America at White House Commie.com!!)
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What gets me is that this STILL is the narrative that Obama only lost on STYLE,not substance.

He got thrashed on BOTH style and substance. This is covering up the reality that the “47 %” thing wouldn’t make one bit of difference.

It is like claiming that Custer lost because he wore the wrong hat.


111 posted on 10/09/2012 1:41:37 PM PDT by Crimson Elephant
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To: cynwoody
Biden spewed a lot of false statistics against Palin that she was unable to refute in the heat of the debate. Not surprisingly, the enabling enemedia failed to "fact-check" the stats.

I hope he tries it with Ryan.

112 posted on 10/09/2012 1:45:08 PM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas (Viva Christo Rey!)
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To: Excellence

Who gave it to him?


113 posted on 10/09/2012 1:45:24 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: AFPhys

Bingo. Obama must be doing blow, pot , chooms, smoking like a chimney, drinking booze and a wreck.


114 posted on 10/09/2012 1:47:30 PM PDT by GlockThe Vote (The Obama Adminstration: 2nd wave of attacks on America after 9/11)
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To: ShadowAce
Does he "take revenge on America" and starting issuing Executive Orders meant to destroy us without any pretense of what's good for us?

Yes. Worse, he will give away whatever nuclear secrets that he can. I've been expecting it for four years.

115 posted on 10/09/2012 1:47:35 PM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas (Viva Christo Rey!)
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To: ponz7

What shocked him is the MSM reported he lost. He was expecting them to sing his praises. And if the MSM said he’d won, the idiotic liberal voters would have believed it.


116 posted on 10/09/2012 1:54:04 PM PDT by Terry Mross
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To: wayoverontheright

I am not sure about that. Obama is narcissistic. His mental illness is furthered along by the press touting his grandeur.

There is an interesting post over on HIllbuzz from someone who has had to deal with a narcissist. It is in reference to the theory that Obama concocted the disaster of a scheme over in Libya.

You can’t judge Obama by your standards. You have to use the standards of someone who is mentally ill.

I think it is possible that he believed he won. He can do no wrong. There is no Plan B because , of course, Plan A will work.


117 posted on 10/09/2012 1:54:35 PM PDT by RummyChick
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To: RavenLooneyToon

Must be primo quality stuff you’ve been smoking!


118 posted on 10/09/2012 1:56:42 PM PDT by mdmathis6 (We have grieved the Holy Spirit, with our Dark hearts and dark minds turned against God!)
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To: Sarah Barracuda

How did this guy ever get to be “likeable”? He’s a total douche.


119 posted on 10/09/2012 1:58:06 PM PDT by UltraV ("Well you've got to hand it to Mitt Romney, because President Obama sure did." Seth Myers, SNL)
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To: mdmathis6
LOL
Obama’s smirk and over confidence reminded me of that exact scene from the movie Heavy Metal.
120 posted on 10/09/2012 1:58:18 PM PDT by RavenLooneyToon (Tail gunner Joe was right.)
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To: henkster
" 2. If 0bama really believed he won that debate, he really doesn’t have any sort of contact with reality. "

Drugs.

121 posted on 10/09/2012 2:03:57 PM PDT by OKSooner
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To: PLD

yes, Obama is the poster boy for the Dunning-Krueger effect
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning–Kruger_effect


122 posted on 10/09/2012 2:16:42 PM PDT by Reverend Wright (Obama: US economy is not my fault but Romney is responsible for Bain Capital years after he left)
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To: reagan_fanatic
Look for a big over-correction in the next pres debate. I hope Romney will be ready, cause zero’s handlers will have him throwing everything at Mitt, including the kitchen sink...

I actually want to see Mitt laugh out loud at one of Obama's over zealous jabs. It would be a moment for the ages, and would deeply shame Obama in front of his Hopeful minions.

OBAMA: "My opponent wants to throw Big Bird into the street."

ROMNEY: "Oh, you mean the 1%er millionaire on government assistance? LOL!"

123 posted on 10/09/2012 2:21:00 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: TigersEye

“He says he has been to 57, one to go and two his staff wouldn’t let him go to. Total = 60 states. He increased the number of states by 20%.”

O.K., I’ll grant you Alaska to bump it up to 59, but do we really have to count Hawaii?


124 posted on 10/09/2012 2:22:10 PM PDT by SharpRightTurn ( White, black, and red all over--America's affirmative action, metrosexual president.)
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To: Bitsy; All

As Dennis Miller said “He looked very mayorial”


125 posted on 10/09/2012 2:25:34 PM PDT by Heff (Half this country is that stupid.)
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To: TBBT

If there was an 0bama Greatness Award . 0bama would award the first one to himself.


126 posted on 10/09/2012 2:30:36 PM PDT by Leep (Forward! to serfdom)
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To: SharpRightTurn

Oh, boy! First 0bama throws Hawaii under the bus by blaming his laziness on growing up there and now you want to throw it off the island. (see what I did there?) I’m going to start to feel sorry for Hawaii if this keeps up. (right up until the snow starts flying here in CO)


127 posted on 10/09/2012 2:31:16 PM PDT by TigersEye (dishonorabledisclosure.com - OPSEC (give them support))
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To: V_TWIN

“I agree, if he looses I sure don’t believe he will go away quietly. It’s obvious he’s thin skinned and a poor sport.”

This brings up a question I have. How did President Carter behave when he lost? I was way to you, so I have no idea. The last President to lose an election was President George H.W. Bush and from what I can tell he seemed to deal with it in a classy manner.


128 posted on 10/09/2012 2:33:46 PM PDT by castlegreyskull
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To: Reverend Wright
Related to the Dunning & Kruger effect...

"The Anosognosic’s Dilemma: Something’s Wrong but You’ll Never Know What It Is (Part 1)"

LOL aka The 0bama Syndrome!

129 posted on 10/09/2012 2:40:53 PM PDT by TigersEye (dishonorabledisclosure.com - OPSEC (give them support))
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To: castlegreyskull

I don’t recall how Carter acted when he lost...just went back to Georgia quietly is my impression but Gore could be a good comparison for BO. Gore lost his mind.


130 posted on 10/09/2012 2:46:26 PM PDT by JouleZ (You are the company you keep.)
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To: JouleZ

“I don’t recall how Carter acted when he lost...just went back to Georgia quietly is my impression but Gore could be a good comparison for BO. Gore lost his mind.”

I think that your right. Gore would be a great way to predict obamas post election behavior. Except, I think he may make us all forget about Gore.


131 posted on 10/09/2012 2:51:09 PM PDT by castlegreyskull
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To: ctdonath2

“get out of my house.”

suu - WEEEET !!!


132 posted on 10/09/2012 3:00:56 PM PDT by USARightSide (SUPPORTING O U R TROOPS)
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To: castlegreyskull; V_TWIN; JouleZ

Anyone thinking there could be rioting around some U.S cities if Obumpo loses OR wins??? (bite my tongue)

Be prepared - - -


133 posted on 10/09/2012 3:11:06 PM PDT by USARightSide (SUPPORTING O U R TROOPS)
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To: TBBT

Prominent Members of Chicago Black Community: Those closest to Obama know there’s no 2nd term
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-gop/2931779/posts


134 posted on 10/09/2012 3:12:40 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You cannot invade the mainland United States. There would be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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To: Political Junkie Too

And Axlerod is offering the zingers to Biden to use...should be pretty funny.


135 posted on 10/09/2012 3:14:38 PM PDT by HollyB
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To: TBBT
yeah, right...

136 posted on 10/09/2012 3:16:47 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: Beagle8U

Funny...


137 posted on 10/09/2012 3:27:02 PM PDT by karnage
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To: HollyB
The Democrat would not reveal what the attack lines were that Obama failed to deliver 'because we may well see the Vice President using them against Ryan'.

Ryan better be prepared because Biden will attack He now thinks he has to come to the rescue which appeals to his arrogant personality
138 posted on 10/09/2012 3:38:18 PM PDT by uncbob
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To: TBBT

Obama is bat shit crazy, pathologically narcissistic and absolutely coming apart at the seams over this debate loss.
Though the media will never allow it to happen, if he were to lose a second debate, there is no doubt that he would have a full blown meltdown.
This is finally entertaining!


139 posted on 10/09/2012 4:00:52 PM PDT by JerseyDvl (Cogito Ergo Doleo Soetoro, ABO and of course FUBO!)
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To: TigersEye

when Romney trounces Zero in debate #2, maybe he will claim it’s “only a flesh wound” like Monty Python’s black knight...


140 posted on 10/09/2012 4:05:27 PM PDT by Reverend Wright (Obama: US economy is not my fault but Romney is responsible for Bain Capital years after he left)
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To: TBBT

More proof that it may take more than a crowbar to dislodge this turd from the WH on January 20th.


141 posted on 10/09/2012 4:06:33 PM PDT by catfish1957 (My dream for hope and change is to see the punk POTUS in prison for treason)
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To: TBBT
While he may have said that he thought he won, his body language and facial expression as he and Moochelle left the stage told an entirely different story. He knew he had been badly beaten.
142 posted on 10/09/2012 4:10:04 PM PDT by Bob
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To: Heart of Georgia

I bet he still thinks he won and, all the analysis is wrong.


143 posted on 10/09/2012 4:15:32 PM PDT by snarkytart
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To: USARightSide

I definately think that there will be. Yesterday on Wilkow, he had someone, he discussed his personal theory how he purposely incited the riots in Middle East by pointing out that video to try to cover for his failures. His theory was, that this was a typicaly community organizer (agitator) move but on a grandiose scale.


144 posted on 10/09/2012 4:17:56 PM PDT by castlegreyskull
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To: TBBT


145 posted on 10/09/2012 4:30:23 PM PDT by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: Reverend Wright
the Dunning-Krueger effect

Thanks for sharing that info--- its like an informative education sometimes here on FR. It seems a bit indirectly similar in definition to the 'Peter Principle' except the one doing the self- promoting is the narcissist egoist individual via falsely rational self delusions.

146 posted on 10/09/2012 4:45:03 PM PDT by tflabo (Truth or Tyranny)
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To: TBBT

It’s called narcissistic personality disorder.


147 posted on 10/09/2012 5:08:30 PM PDT by ReformationFan
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To: TBBT

if his perception is that distorted, we don’t need him running the US!


148 posted on 10/09/2012 5:31:16 PM PDT by ncpatriot
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To: Stayfree

<He has no actual experience in financial management, business management, tax planning, consulting or any other experience besides community organizing on the streets of Chicago.

Everything you said, and one further - he is not in control of day to day WH activity and policy. I’m not saying there’s some puppet master running everything, but that he pays so little attention, and is so little in control of what’s going on, that he can’t speak from his heart and mind.

What kind of president can’t speak about his own policies without a teleprompter? Who can’t speak about his own belief system? Why couldn’t he say ‘I did this, because I believe X, and my policies are X’?

The man is an empty suit.


149 posted on 10/09/2012 5:40:16 PM PDT by radiohead (Buy ammo, store food, pray for the Republic.)
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To: generally

rofl!


150 posted on 10/09/2012 5:41:12 PM PDT by HeartlandOfAmerica ("We have prepared for the unbeliever, whips and chains and blazing fires!" Koran Sura 76:4)
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