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To: DoughtyOne

Those who come here illegally from any other country should be sent back, period-I don’t care if they came from Mexico or Russia. The whole La Raza argument illegal Hispanics use to shout discrimination is based on a false presumption-”Hispanic” is NOT a race-it is an ethnic group, nothing more, and most illegals are freeloaders-if Canada were closer, they would sneak in there. That whole win-the-Hispanic vote thing is just another scam for goodies.

I’m of Hispanic ancestry-they came from Spain to Mexico, then from Mexico to what is now South Texas in the 1700’s, when it was a Spanish territory-we are mixed Native American and Spanish. We are racially Caucasian, ethnically Hispanic, and I don’t look any different than any of my light-skinned, red haired counterparts anywhere in Latin America or Europe.

As a child, I was taught Spanish as a second language, but those cousins who didn’t live in Texas were not-and I don’t know any Hispanics who aren’t Republican voters...


10 posted on 10/09/2012 12:18:35 PM PDT by Texan5 ("You've got to saddle up your boys, you've got to draw a hard line"...)
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To: Texan5
Those who come here illegally from any other country should be sent back, period-I don’t care if they came from Mexico or Russia.  Exactly right.  It's unfortunate, but with Mexico on our border and the saturation of the illegal body of folks in the U. S., it is often addressed as an issue of Hispanics for lack of a better way to reference it.  We have Mexican nationals and other nationals from Central and South American that contribute to this problem, and all too often they get lumped in together.

The whole La Raza argument illegal Hispanics use to shout discrimination is based on a false presumption-”Hispanic” is NOT a race-it is an ethnic group, nothing more, and most illegals are freeloaders-if Canada were closer, they would sneak in there.  I agree.  And in no small part it has become this, because of the Leftist advocacy groups.  Thirty years ago, these people were coming here to work hard, better their chances at a good life.  And some still do, but now there's an alternative, and I think the majority these days tap into government programs.  They've got the Leftist groups encouraging them to do it, and showing them how to do it most effectively.

That whole win-the-Hispanic vote thing is just another scam for goodies.
  It's a scam for them, and a scam for our leaders in the Republican party.  The Hispanic vote is going to the Left.  That information is now irrefutable.  So what do our folks do?  Why they continue to pander.  It's infuriating.

I’m of Hispanic ancestry-they came from Spain to Mexico, then from Mexico to what is now South Texas in the 1700’s, when it was a Spanish territory-we are mixed Native American and Spanish. We are racially Caucasian, ethnically Hispanic, and I don’t look any different than any of my light-skinned, red haired counterparts anywhere in Latin America or Europe.  I reference it as Southern European, when you get right down to it, that's actually what it is for the most party.  You have Northern Europeans and Southern Europeans here.  I get a hoot out of the folks who claim the Southwest should be Mexican territory.  The CIA World Fact Book breaks down the Mexican populace as over 65% decentents from Southern Europe, at least in part.  The rest are indiginious, and I'm not hearing anyone reference turning the Southwest of the United States back over to the indiginious.

As a child, I was taught Spanish as a second language, but those cousins who didn’t live in Texas were not-and I don’t know any Hispanics who aren’t Republican voters...  I don't mind knowing some Spanish, and wish I was more proficient.  None the less, I view this as an English language nation, and I'm not about to back down on that.  I am glad the Hispanics in your region support Republicans.  The Cuban contingent in Florida did too in the Reagan years.  I'm not sure these days.  The figures seem to indicate that a large portion of the Hispanics these days do vote Left.  That's a real shame.  I've talked to a fair amount of Hispanics about what is taking place, and many of them are as outraged by what is taking place as we are. 

I've also heard some second hand stories about Mexican nationals still living in Mexico, and they can't believe what we allow to take place up here, as it relates to illegal immigration.

Languages are interesting to me, and I'd like to know more of them, but I wish to do that by choice and not due to balkinization.

I've got no axe to grind against Hispanics in general.  My wife, my daughter-in-law, and my sister-in-law are hispanic.  Their families are hard working and good people.  Many, and probably most Hispanic families are.  It's just that we've got a massive problem right now, and we're having to deal with it as we can.

Thanks for the comments.


15 posted on 10/09/2012 2:47:15 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Obama got Mitch-Slapped in that first debate. 70% to 19% (Gallop)? That's going to leave a mark.)
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