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Suffolk pollster: We’re not polling Florida, Virginia, or North Carolina anymore, because ...
hotair.com ^ | 10/9/12 | Allahpundit

Posted on 10/09/2012 7:39:49 PM PDT by Justaham

Original title: Suffolk pollster: We’re not polling Florida, Virginia, or North Carolina anymore, because Romney’s going to win them
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Via Gateway Pundit, I’ll give you the RCP averages tonight and leave you to judge. They’ve got Romney by three points in NC (although the latest poll has him up nine), Romney by less than a point in FL, and Obama by less than half a point in VA.

See Guy Benson for more good news in various state polls. Ohio and Pennsylvania are getting tighter.

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Politics/Elections; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: 2012polls; 2012swingstates; fl2012; florida; nc2012; northcarolina; suffolk; virginia

1 posted on 10/09/2012 7:39:58 PM PDT by Justaham
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To: Justaham

Isn’t it a little premature to call Florida for any9ne?


2 posted on 10/09/2012 7:45:55 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both)
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To: BenLurkin

I think this is Phy Ops on the Left. They live and die by polls. Having this story out there is going to drive more then a few Leftists into hysteria.


3 posted on 10/09/2012 7:49:44 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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To: BenLurkin

I don’t think I’d call Florida till all the voting precincts have closed in the pan handle.


4 posted on 10/09/2012 7:49:51 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative
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To: SeekAndFind; LS; Perdogg; napscoordinator; God luvs America; nutmeg; SoFloFreeper; Ravi; ...

Poll Ping.


5 posted on 10/09/2012 7:50:15 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar (The pundits have forgotten the 2010 elections.)
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To: Justaham

Good! I’m getting pretty tired of all the calls here in northern VA.


6 posted on 10/09/2012 8:02:23 PM PDT by VanShuyten ("a shadow...draped nobly in the folds of a gorgeous eloquence.")
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To: Jet Jaguar

With Biden and Ryan up next I won’t be surprised if Romney is up 10 points by the weekend.


7 posted on 10/09/2012 8:03:58 PM PDT by rdl6989 (January 20, 2013 The end of an error.)
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Obama barely won Florida vs MCLAME with a tidal wave of factors behind him. What possible scenario will make him win it this time with every advantage gone?


8 posted on 10/09/2012 8:12:06 PM PDT by Crimson Elephant
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To: MNJohnnie

I listened to the guy saying this. I didn’t buy it. He said, iirc, something about Obama being below 50% being why they can say that Romney will win Fla, Va, and NC.

Romney is pulling away in NC, so I’ll give them that one. Fla and VA remain too close, though.

Seems to me that a smart candidate would take this suffolk prediction with a grain of salt.


9 posted on 10/09/2012 8:19:57 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True supporters of our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: Justaham

These three states have been gone for sometime. Anyone who knows much about southern politics knows that these states would be the first to bail on a socialist.

Obama lost them for sure when he came out for gay marriage in hopes of firing up his left wing base, also known as the New York Times and Washington Post.


10 posted on 10/09/2012 8:22:11 PM PDT by Patrick1 (“Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity.”)
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To: xzins

Yeah, ignore it like all University and media polling. It is just fun to mess with the Leftists. After a month of “It is all over Obama has won” polling, it fun to put the shoe on the other foot and kick the Left with it.


11 posted on 10/09/2012 8:22:26 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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To: Justaham; MNJohnnie

I agree. Leftist Psyops.


12 posted on 10/09/2012 8:30:10 PM PDT by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: rdl6989

I read something today that says Ryan hasn’t debated anyone since High School.


13 posted on 10/09/2012 8:31:16 PM PDT by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: GeronL

I saw a video interview with Paul Ryan about 2 weeks ago. He said, in the House of Representatives, they debate a lot, even much more than in the Senate.

I also read an article which mentions he’s been practicing for the debate a lot, in seclusion in Virginia. When he was a young aide to Jack Kemp, he saw a debate where Kemp didn’t practice and blew the debate (like Obama did), and that made an impression on Paul Ryan on how to prepare for a debate.


14 posted on 10/09/2012 8:37:01 PM PDT by plushaye (Election 2012 Prayer Force)
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To: GeronL

He didn’t debate anyone to get into congress?


15 posted on 10/09/2012 8:37:44 PM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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To: GeronL

Ah, It’s like riding a bike, if he’s had good training.

And he knows his material, which is a huge percentage of the advantage.

Biden?

Half Ryan’s brain tied behind his back, to paraphrase Rush.


16 posted on 10/09/2012 9:08:21 PM PDT by stanne
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To: Crimson Elephant
Obama barely won Florida vs MCLAME with a tidal wave of factors behind him. What possible scenario will make him win it this time with every advantage gone?

See, there's this guy named Chad, who likes to hang around after the ballots are counted...

Cheers!

17 posted on 10/09/2012 9:21:28 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: Justaham; All

The whackjobs over at Daily Kos ARE NOT HAPPY WITH THIS.

I wouldn’t normally give them the hits, but this is too much schadenfreud to pass up!!

WTF?! Suffolk U. Pollster Commits Professional Malpractice
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/10/10/1142453/-WTF-Suffolk-U-Pollster-Commits-Professional-Malpractice


18 posted on 10/09/2012 9:46:21 PM PDT by tcrlaf (Election 2012: THE RAPTURE OF THE DEMOCRATS)
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To: stanne

The problem with Biden is he’s tough to prepare for. He doesn’t just lie, he manufactures the most jaw-dropping, outrageous “facts” you’ve ever heard out of thin air, then pounds the podium and repeats them as if they’re etched-in-stone common knowledge to everyone but you. It’s the one actual talent the man possesses that doesn’t involve large quantities of alcohol.


19 posted on 10/09/2012 10:40:37 PM PDT by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard (Some men just want to watch the world burn.)
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To: GeronL

Make him stand on his head and juggle at the same time and Crazy Joe might have a slight chance.


20 posted on 10/09/2012 10:52:50 PM PDT by arrogantsob (The Disaster MUST Go. Sarah herself supports Romney.)
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To: WhistlingPastTheGraveyard
I had this crazy dream that Biden tried to use the Obama/Clinton black southern drawl at the debate and beat on the podium! It was the moment all knew the election was over!
21 posted on 10/09/2012 11:13:29 PM PDT by MacMattico
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To: GeronL
Ha....here is Ryan taking Obama to the woodshed on Obamacare

If Ryan can do this to Obama ,,,Biden is chopped toast.

Ryan cleans Obamas clock

22 posted on 10/10/2012 1:13:19 AM PDT by spokeshave (The only people better off today than 4 years ago are the Prisoners at Guantanamo.)
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To: BenLurkin

“Isn’t it a little premature to call Florida for anyone?”

Agree. The other two states were never in play, regardless of what the polling says. If NC or VA is lost by Romney, it’s game over anyway, without them - so why bother polling. Both states will be right around 8 point Romney wins by the time the votes are counted.


23 posted on 10/10/2012 3:40:03 AM PDT by BobL (You can live each day only once. You can waste a few, but don't waste too many.)
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To: Justaham

I worked the phone banks here in Central Virginia last evening and was startled by the turn of events. I had worked them several times earlier in the season but this was the first time since the debates. ID myself as a Vet calling on behalf of Republican Party and ask, “Can Romney and Ryan count on your vote this November?” Much larger number of yes’s and much greater level of enthusiam in their response. Was a pleasant experience compared to earlier times.


24 posted on 10/10/2012 3:41:10 AM PDT by Portcall24
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To: xzins
I believe it. If they are watching the same absentee and early voting trends we are seeing in OH, they know that Zero has not built enough early lead to win. I personally think this is the first outfit to face reality.

The guy also said that the Romney trends were strong (and I think they are seeing the internal stuff that is leaking out of the others-- Romney up big among indies, middle class, now women, plus higher turnout among Rs).

One mor reason to think this is true: this is a smaller outfit than Gallup, Ras, Mason Dixon, and they have to juggle their resources more closely.

Oh and this: there was a little noticed story last week that one of the Zero PACs had pulled out of VA. Naturally, this got no play in the DriveBys.

25 posted on 10/10/2012 4:06:04 AM PDT by LS ("Castles Made of Sand, Fall in the Sea . . . Eventually (Hendrix))
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To: Patrick1

I agree. I think OH has been gone for some time.


26 posted on 10/10/2012 4:07:15 AM PDT by LS ("Castles Made of Sand, Fall in the Sea . . . Eventually (Hendrix))
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To: BenLurkin
Isn’t it a little premature to call Florida for any9ne?

Well you don't have to get snippy about it.

27 posted on 10/10/2012 4:16:53 AM PDT by dead (It ain't over until the phone lady sings.)
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To: LS
I think OH has been gone for some time.

GONE as in R&R wins?

28 posted on 10/10/2012 4:28:07 AM PDT by newfreep (Breitbart sent me...)
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To: xzins
"He said, iirc, something about Obama being below 50% being why they can say that Romney will win Fla, Va, and NC."

PV dynamics.

29 posted on 10/10/2012 4:43:48 AM PDT by StAnDeliver (2008 + IN, NE1, NC, FL, VA, OH, IA OR NV = 272EV)
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To: newfreep

Yes. Look at the FR OH absentee voting threads. You’ll see what I mean.


30 posted on 10/10/2012 4:48:57 AM PDT by LS ("Castles Made of Sand, Fall in the Sea . . . Eventually (Hendrix))
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To: LS

Nonetheless, Obama simply will not give up on Florida. Better to keep hammering away at it, and not risk a clandestine ploy to get a candidate to pull resources or to give back airtime already scheduled with the media. You know who they’d gladly give that to if it were given up by the republicans.

It is about 27 days to the election, and it’s not time to trust outsiders or to let up in any other way.


31 posted on 10/10/2012 5:03:58 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True supporters of our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: LS

I’m an Ohioan and Ohio is not settled.

It is always close, and the nature of our numbers says that last minute surges, voter drives, etc., can have a big impact.

We have 8 million registered voters and in 2008, a big turnout year, only 5.5 million voted.

That means last minute stuff can be really significant.


32 posted on 10/10/2012 5:07:18 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True supporters of our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: xzins
Seems to me that a smart candidate would take this suffolk prediction with a grain of salt.

Or a block of salt. At any rate the obama team isn't writing VA off...I can tell you that. I watched House last night on FOX...the Nats had a night off...and there was an obama commercial every break. Every single one! And every single commercial is an attack on Romney. Every one of them calls him a liar and not one has anything positive about obama. Hope and Change is dead!

33 posted on 10/10/2012 5:37:12 AM PDT by pgkdan (A vote for anyone but Romney is a vote for obama. GO MITT!!)
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To: xzins
I'm an Ohioan too and I think that OH has been a done deal for a month. Pollsters are trying to make it otherwise, but esp. after I see all the yard signs as anecdotal backup to the NUMBERS in the absentees and the trends, it fully confirms the enthusiasm gap in favor of Romney.

Zero will NOT win Hamilton or Franklin counties this time, and he WILL be down massively in Cuyahoga. I think at least 60,000, maybe 70,000 votes.

34 posted on 10/10/2012 7:33:50 AM PDT by LS ("Castles Made of Sand, Fall in the Sea . . . Eventually (Hendrix))
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To: LS

The old adage: “Don’t count your chickens before they’re hatched.”

Better safe than sorry.


35 posted on 10/10/2012 7:42:27 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True supporters of our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: xzins

Not saying relax in any sense of the word. But people here freak when the Romney campaign is said to be “pulling ads” out of WI, so turnabout is fair play.


36 posted on 10/10/2012 8:49:11 AM PDT by LS ("Castles Made of Sand, Fall in the Sea . . . Eventually (Hendrix))
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To: xzins
“Don’t count your chickens before they’re hatched.”

Not true in UT, where they count their Hatch before he chickens out.

37 posted on 10/10/2012 1:03:37 PM PDT by Theodore R. (Annoy the Establishment! Vote for Akin!)
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To: Theodore R.

” Not true in UT, where they count their Hatch before he chickens out. “

Why FR is so much fun : )


38 posted on 10/10/2012 1:10:45 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: xzins

I live in Virginia. Hampton Roads area. No doubt in my mind, even with the constant Mcrini effect that brought G. Allen down, that Obama has no shot in this state. It’s quite evident to me.


39 posted on 10/10/2012 1:11:48 PM PDT by commonguymd (The enemy within is our MSM. War starts there imo. twitter @commonguymd)
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To: BenLurkin
It's a little premature to "call" any State for any candidate.

Wherever you live, get out and vote as your conscience directs ... and the pollsters be damned.

40 posted on 10/10/2012 1:14:09 PM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: LS

Agree 100%

Lived in central OH most of my life. It’s over for Obama here. In fact I think it was over sometime in late ‘09 for Obama in Ohio.
Ohioans repudiated O in the ‘10 elections with a wave of red. So what’s changed in the last 2 years to suddenly make voters want to revert back to blue? In fact if anything the red wave hasn’t completely crashed on shore.

my predition: OHIO ELECTION NIGHT Romney 55% Obama 44%


41 posted on 10/10/2012 2:48:59 PM PDT by BuckeyeGOP
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To: LS; muggs; sauropod; prisoner6; Badray

I’m SO glad to see that. Years ago I tried in vain to find a Dole yard sign to put up as an optimistic transplant to the state, only to be told by a (seemingly amused) state GOP worker that Ohio was not given any. The FR bumper sticker “You are not alone” said it well.

Thank God and JimRob for FR and freepers.


42 posted on 10/11/2012 7:51:29 AM PDT by cyn
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To: LS; xzins; BuckeyeGOP

Just now mentioned — Jamie Dupree on Boortz that Cleveland is one of the top-10 political advertising markets right now.

and this, http://www.cleveland.com/metro/index.ssf/2012/10/absentee_ballots_cause_of_conc.html


43 posted on 10/11/2012 9:03:54 AM PDT by cyn
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Perhaps better said, I thank God for JimRob, FR, and freepers.


44 posted on 10/11/2012 9:11:16 AM PDT by cyn
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To: cyn

So, just consider this: Obama won Cleveland by 200,000 votes, maybe much more. And he has to ADVERTISE THERE?????
Over.


45 posted on 10/11/2012 9:19:47 AM PDT by LS ("Castles Made of Sand, Fall in the Sea . . . Eventually (Hendrix))
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