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Walmart Targets Unhappy Bank Customers With New Prepaid Card--Should Big Banks Be Nervous?
Forbes ^ | 08 Oct 2012 | Halah Touryalai

Posted on 10/09/2012 8:54:11 PM PDT by TArcher

Walmart wants to be your new banker.

Walmart launched Bluebird, an alternative to debit and checking account. Should banks be nervous?

Today Walmart announced an alternative to traditional debit and checking accounts in partnership with American Express. The Bluebird accounts target consumers who are fed up with increasing fees from traditional bank accounts.

The Bluebird accounts will have no minimum balance requirement and no monthly maintenance, annual or activation fee. Customers can access their money for free using one of 22,000 American Express MoneyPass ATMs, but will be hit with a $2 fee if they are not enrolled in direct deposit...

(Excerpt) Read more at forbes.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: americanexpress; amex; bluebird; bohica; companystore; croneycapitalism; doddfrank; walmart
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“The Durbin Amendment to the Dodd-Frank Act sets prices on interchange fees. Wal-Mart avoids these price controls because its new product is not called a debit or cash card."
 
But wait - didn't Walmart lobby for Dodd-Frank and...
 
http://politicsroom.com/2011/09/26/the-walmart-bailout-is-hurting-consumers/
 
...what's the Dodd-Frank WALmart Bailout?  .
 
Anybody?
Anybody?
FReepers?

1 posted on 10/09/2012 8:54:21 PM PDT by TArcher
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To: TArcher

People are using these cards to cash their government checks, especially fraudulent tax returns.


2 posted on 10/09/2012 9:18:02 PM PDT by dila813
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To: TArcher

You are entirely correct. I was about to go out and research the issue for a response then I saw yours. It’s late, I’m tired and ready to rack it.


3 posted on 10/09/2012 9:19:16 PM PDT by mazda77 ("Defeating the Totalitarian Lie" By: Hilmar von Campe. Everybody should read it.)
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To: TArcher; All

Scoff if you will, but you must admit, whatever Wal-Mart does, people flock to it...

Dayum, I just happened to think-we haven’t had a good Wal-Mart thread here on FR in what seems like centuries!


4 posted on 10/09/2012 9:24:02 PM PDT by mozarky2 (Ya never stand so tall as when ya stoop to stomp a statist!)
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To: TArcher
Perkstreet prepaid card gives you 1% cash back rewards on all non-debit transactions, ie the purchases you sign for.

I've had one for about a year and have not paid a penny in fees.

5 posted on 10/09/2012 9:26:30 PM PDT by Ken H
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To: TArcher

Prepaid cards are a cash cow


6 posted on 10/09/2012 9:51:56 PM PDT by Java4Jay (The evils of government are directly proportional to the tolerance of the people.)
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To: TArcher

My guess is the bank will be more than happy to get rid of the low value accounts. They raise fines and the people are still to stupid that the bank doesn’t want them there anymore.

Better off going to a credit union and getting a dividend.

Moving it to Walmart would give PT Barnum a chuckle.


7 posted on 10/09/2012 9:57:08 PM PDT by Morris70
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To: TArcher

I LOVE credit cards, Chase is great, They pay me cash back for using the card and give great customer service.
The trick is to not buy things unless you have the money for them already, as with a debit card


8 posted on 10/09/2012 9:57:22 PM PDT by sickoflibs (Romney is still a liberal. Just watch him. (Obama-ney Care ))
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To: TArcher

I have a walmart prepaid card..

not because I have to. I want to.

Why? I have not paid 1 penny in unexpected fees and only 10 bucks in expected fees over the past year. I have not overdrawn the account because I am not paying attention. it’s accepted everywhere. Easy to manage.

Wellsfargo.. They where nailing me 10 bucks a month just to have their account and god forbid I hit -0.01 I think it was 35 bucks!

Only thing I wish my walmart card would do is allow me to deposit checks.

I will be getting the new bluebird card as it allows this for free. My wife’s US bank account charges her 50 cents for that.


9 posted on 10/09/2012 10:20:50 PM PDT by cableguymn (The founding fathers would be shooting by now..)
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To: cableguymn

Check out Perkstreet. (see post #5)


10 posted on 10/09/2012 10:41:22 PM PDT by Ken H
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To: sickoflibs

My wife convinced me to get a Chase card because of the cash back benefits. I was reluctant, but it has worked out great. We use it for everything all month long and then pay it off when the bill comes in. So far this year we have received several hundred dollars in cash back. Free money.


11 posted on 10/09/2012 10:45:48 PM PDT by TexasKamaAina
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To: Ken H

No thanks. 32 dollar overdraft fee?

I like seeing “DECLINED” when I am broke.

Thankfully that is rare these days.


12 posted on 10/09/2012 10:50:13 PM PDT by cableguymn (The founding fathers would be shooting by now..)
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To: TArcher

a little ironic don’t ya think? after all it was documented that AMEX was reducing credit lines for customers that shopped at WalMart. I guess there’s now a special card for them.

personally i would not patronize either establishment.


13 posted on 10/10/2012 12:12:45 AM PDT by KingofZion
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To: sickoflibs

I love Chase. They call me for any suspicious charge on my credit card, and don’t automatically shut off my card if I use it while traveling, like I’ve heard happens to other people with their cards. There’s no rediculous password requirements or multiple-page logins on their site. All of my statements are available there. Etc. Just need to move back to a place where I can use them as a local bank again...


14 posted on 10/10/2012 12:58:12 AM PDT by Styria
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To: TArcher

so, china no longer has to give us trinkets to get our cash... now we’re supposed to just hand it all over to them with nothing in return??

yup.. sounds like something the libs would dream up


15 posted on 10/10/2012 4:17:46 AM PDT by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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To: cableguymn
There are alternatives to Wells Fargo that do not entail facilitating the sodomization of the Republic ala the Express line at the New Amerikan Kompany Store.
 
For example:
 
http://www.google.com/#hl=en&sclient=psy-ab&q=first+bank+free+checking
 
http://www.google.com/#hl=en&sclient=psy-ab&q=credit+union+free+checking

16 posted on 10/10/2012 6:20:05 AM PDT by TArcher
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To: TArcher

Again. I like the way I bank. I do not need nor want a traditional checking account. I like Walmart so using their product is no problem for me.


17 posted on 10/10/2012 9:37:37 AM PDT by cableguymn (The founding fathers would be shooting by now..)
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To: TArcher

Wal-Mart is a great store, glad to see them giving some competition to banks now.


18 posted on 10/10/2012 1:17:39 PM PDT by ansel12
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To: ansel12

[glad to see them giving some competition to banks now.]

Even though that “competition” is largely manufactured via government interference in the free market ala Dodd-Frank, for which Walmart lobbied - and from which they evidently received great benefit?

http://politicsroom.com/2011/06/29/the-walmart-bailout-is-now-official/


19 posted on 10/10/2012 8:30:22 PM PDT by TArcher
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To: TArcher

Welcome to freerepublic, we generally like Walmart here, and despise unions, and the leftists that hate Walmart.

Many of our major cities (like mine) has such a strong and powerful left, that they won’t even allow WalMart grocery stores in the entire city, depriving tens of millions of Americans the freedom to shop at their favorite grocery store.

I appreciate the WalMart competition against the banks that I despise and that don’t deserve my business.


20 posted on 10/10/2012 8:39:29 PM PDT by ansel12
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To: sten
>>now we’re supposed to just hand it all over to them
 
What they're doing bears disturbing resemblance to the "Company Store" sung about by folks like Tennessee Ernie Ford and Merle Travis:
..."another day older and deeper in debt" was a phrase often used by his father, a coal miner himself.[4] This and the line "I owe my soul to the company store" is a reference to the truck system and to debt bondage. Under this scrip system, workers were not paid cash; rather they were paid with non-transferable credit vouchers which could be exchanged for only goods sold at the company store. This made it impossible for workers to store up cash savings. Workers also usually lived in company-owned dormitories or houses, the rent for which was automatically deducted from their pay. In the United States the truck system and associated debt bondage persisted until the strikes of the newly formed United Mine Workers and affiliated unions forced an end to such practices..."
 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sixteen_Tons
 
Fortunately for We the McSheeple - the Waligarchs haven't unexisted the historical memory of their predecessors tyrannical antics just yet; and some of us still know what "COMMERCE BETWEEN MASTER AND SLAVE IS DESPOTISM" means, too.

21 posted on 10/10/2012 8:44:15 PM PDT by TArcher
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To: ansel12

Speak for yourself. I have been here forever, right Jim? And I see Walmart as a blot on the landscape. I think the towns that have denied or managed walmart well in our area have thrived. but in many cases Walmart goes to less well managed towns and eviserates them.

Cheap is not the only thing I am looking for in life, quality counts too.


22 posted on 10/10/2012 8:53:03 PM PDT by Chickensoup (STOP The Great O-ppression)
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To: ansel12

Speak for yourself. I have been here forever, right Jim? And I see Walmart as a blot on the landscape. I think the towns that have denied or managed walmart well in our area have thrived. but in many cases Walmart goes to less well managed towns and eviserates them.

Cheap is not the only thing I am looking for in life, quality counts too.


23 posted on 10/10/2012 8:53:13 PM PDT by Chickensoup (STOP The Great O-ppression)
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To: ansel12

Speak for yourself. I have been here forever, right Jim? And I see Walmart as a blot on the landscape. I think the towns that have denied or managed walmart well in our area have thrived. but in many cases Walmart goes to less well managed towns and eviserates them.

Cheap is not the only thing I am looking for in life, quality counts too.


24 posted on 10/10/2012 8:53:21 PM PDT by Chickensoup (STOP The Great O-ppression)
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To: ansel12

>>and the leftists that hate Walmart.

Do they hate Walmart more than Communist Chinese Capitalists love doing business with it?


25 posted on 10/10/2012 9:26:49 PM PDT by TArcher
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To: TArcher

For a new guy you sure play hard at being a lefty.


26 posted on 10/10/2012 9:35:35 PM PDT by ansel12
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To: ansel12
>>I appreciate the WalMart competition against the banks

The "competition" manufactured by lobbying for Dodd Frank: 
 
"the fact of the matter is that while Walmart will save billions of dollars due to the Durbin legislation, mom-and-pap stores might end up having to pay more fees to be able to continue accepting debit cards than they did before the Durbin amendment. This is due to the fact that because under the new system set up, merchants will be charged  21 cents plus 5 basis points of the total and a conditional 1 cent for fraud-prevention. Under the current system, merchants are charged an average of about 7 cents for a $2 cup of coffee. The cost will therefore increase to over twenty-five cents – or about 4.5 times as much as they currently pay."
 
http://politicsroom.com/2011/09/26/the-walmart-bailout-is-hurting-consumers/
That "competition"?
 
How much of its Durbinprofit has Walmart passed on to the consumer?

27 posted on 10/10/2012 9:37:13 PM PDT by TArcher
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To: ansel12

Are Communist Chinese State Capitalists leftists or rightists?


28 posted on 10/10/2012 9:38:42 PM PDT by TArcher
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To: cableguymn

I think someone in China bought U. S. Bank. Am I mistaken. I got out of there a long time ago. Had a second account there. It wasn’t worth the trouble.


29 posted on 10/10/2012 9:49:27 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Salvation

Beats me.


30 posted on 10/10/2012 9:51:25 PM PDT by cableguymn (The founding fathers would be shooting by now..)
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To: Chickensoup

Yep, America loves them, but the left hates them, and does not even allow them in many major cities in the nation where you union people are strong enough to pick and choose who can sell groceries in America.


31 posted on 10/10/2012 9:52:04 PM PDT by ansel12
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To: ansel12

Are Communist Chinese State Capitalists leftists or rightists?


32 posted on 10/10/2012 9:56:34 PM PDT by TArcher
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To: ansel12
Cat got your dialectic tongue?
 
Here's a clue:
 
Communist Party of China
中国共产党
Zhōngguó Gòngchǎndǎng
General Secretary Hu Jintao
Politburo Standing Committee Hu Jintao
Wu Bangguo
Wen Jiabao
Jia Qinglin
Li Changchun
Xi Jinping
Li Keqiang
He Guoqiang
Zhou Yongkang
Founded July 1, 1921 (1st Party Congress)
August 1, 1920 (de facto)
Headquarters Zhongnanhai, Beijing
Youth wing Communist Youth League of China
Young Pioneers of China
Membership  (2010) 80,269,000
Ideology Socialism with Chinese Characteristics,
Deng Xiaoping Theory,
Maoism,
Three Represents,
Scientific Development Concept
National People's Congress
2,099 / 2,987
Website
english.cpc.people.com.cn
Party flag
Flag of the Chinese Communist Party.svg

Politics of the People's Republic of China
Political parties
Elections

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communist_Party_of_China

 

 

Now. Whadaya think ansel12 -- Are the ChiComs who supply WalMart  Leftists or Rightists?
33 posted on 10/10/2012 10:07:14 PM PDT by TArcher
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To: TArcher

Something tells me this new sign in name is not your first here.


34 posted on 10/10/2012 10:19:24 PM PDT by ansel12
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To: ansel12

Tsk Tsk Comrade Ansel12 - answer the question:   Are Communist Chinese State Capitalists leftists or rightists?

 

Meanwhile, while you're waiting for Party approval of your answer -- let's consider the fact that:

"The CPC is the world's largest political party,[10] claiming over 80 million members[11] at the end of 2010 which constitutes about 6.0% of the total population of mainland China. The vast majority of military and civil officials are members of the Party."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communist_Party_of_China

 

So, Comrade AnsrelTrelve -- do Walmart's transactions with the People's Republic of China transpire with, or without, the approval of the CPC's Central Committee?  

35 posted on 10/10/2012 10:29:37 PM PDT by TArcher
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To: TArcher

Yeah, I think it is safe to say that you are one of the more wild eyed retreads.

Good luck with this current account.


36 posted on 10/10/2012 10:36:30 PM PDT by ansel12
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To: ansel12

Are Communist Chinese State Capitalists leftists or rightists?


37 posted on 10/10/2012 10:42:27 PM PDT by TArcher
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To: TArcher
So, Comrade AnsrelTrelve -- do Walmart's transactions with the People's Republic of China transpire with, or without, the approval of the CPC's Central Committee?

What about Apple's?

38 posted on 10/10/2012 10:56:20 PM PDT by cynwoody
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To: cynwoody

>>What about Apple’s?

http://appleinsider.com/articles/12/05/03/apple_expected_to_expand_store_within_store_presence_at_walmart_target

Good question.


39 posted on 10/10/2012 11:03:20 PM PDT by TArcher
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To: ansel12

Tell us Ansel12 is the State Censorship manifested via the CCP's "Great Firewall", (presumably paid for in part by funds derived from transactions with WalMart) - leftist or rightist?


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_censorship_in_the_People%27s_Republic_of_China

 

40 posted on 10/10/2012 11:14:31 PM PDT by TArcher
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To: ansel12

Wal-Mart China sees second Party branch

Category:[world] [CHINA] [Regional]

SHENYANG -- A second outlet of the world's largest retailer, Wal-Mart, has seen the establishment of a branch of the Communist Party of China (CPC) in Shenyang, capital of northeast China's Liaoning Province.

Following the establishment of the CPC branch in the Shenyang Wal-Mart Department Store on August 12, another CPC branch was set up in the Taiyuan Road Wal-Mart store on August 18, Wang Jing, head of the Publicity Department of the Heping District Committee of the CPC, said on Friday.

The Taiyuan Road store had three CPC members, Wang said, without elaborating on the establishment of the CPC branch.

A local CPC committee official announced on Thursday that Party and youth league branches were established in the Shenyang Wal-Mart Department Store on August 12, along with a trade union, giving employees access to CPC membership....

http://www.dow3.com/world/p499.aspx

 

"and youth league branches were established in the Shenyang Wal-Mart Department Store on August 12, along with a trade union, giving employees access to CPC membership"

 

Trade union?  In a WalMart store?  LOL.   Rut ro, Ansel12 head explosion cleanup on aisle twelve!

 

41 posted on 10/10/2012 11:24:52 PM PDT by TArcher
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To: ansel12

“The Durbin Amendment to the Dodd-Frank Act sets prices on interchange fees. Wal-Mart avoids these price controls because its new product is not called a debit or cash card. It is being handled by American Express as if it were a Traveler’s Check. Presumably, by using this technique, Wall-Mart avoids Durbin and it can receive whatever “commission” American Express chooses to pay on these cards.”

http://www.forbes.com/sites/halahtouryalai/2012/10/08/walmart-targets-unhappy-bank-customers-should-big-banks-be-nervous/

Meanwhile, it's a fact that Walmart derived additional significant benefit from its lobbying for the Durbin Amendment / Dodd-Frank Act:

"Walmart will save billions of dollars due to the Durbin legislation"

http://politicsroom.com/2011/09/26/the-walmart-bailout-is-hurting-consumers/

 

Bracky Obama signed the Dodd-Frank act on July 22, 2010.

Is your monetary support of Bracky Obama(D), Barney Frank(D), Chris Dodd(D), and Dick Durbin(D) -- leftist or rightist?

 

 

42 posted on 10/10/2012 11:50:18 PM PDT by TArcher
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To: TArcher; ansel12
Your question to ansel is non-sequitor. WHO CARES if the Chinese are left or right? This is a thread about WALMART.

You are acting like a troll. Ansel is probably right, you are probably retreaded.

43 posted on 10/10/2012 11:57:43 PM PDT by Lazamataz (WAAAAAAAAAHHHhhhhh.....)
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To: ansel12

Yep, America loves them, but the left hates them, and does not even allow them in many major cities in the nation where you union people are strong enough to pick and choose who can sell groceries in America.

__________________

Not union, never union. But I do know quality of life when I see it. Whether I pay less for cheap product and more in taxes to support the devestation and life quality, or pay more for quality product and less in taxes and better life quality, I always vote for less taxes and more life quality.

Some people bm in their soup, I dont.


44 posted on 10/11/2012 5:55:34 AM PDT by Chickensoup (STOP The Great O-ppression)
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To: Lazamataz

>>WHO CARES if the Chinese are left or right?

Evidently none of the Quislings doing business with the Communist oligarchs in the CPC Central Committee.


45 posted on 10/11/2012 6:15:54 AM PDT by TArcher
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To: Lazamataz

>>This is a thread about WALMART.

“Walmart will save billions of dollars due to the Durbin legislation”

http://politicsroom.com/2011/09/26/the-walmart-bailout-is-hurting-consumers/

Bracky Obama signed the Dodd-Frank act, including the Durbin Amendment, on July 22, 2010.

Is Walmart’s symbiosis with Bracky Obama(D), Barney Frank(D), Chris Dodd(D), and Dick Durbin(D) — leftist or rightist?


46 posted on 10/11/2012 6:32:35 AM PDT by TArcher
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To: TArcher

You are definitely a retread troll.

First, I will answer your question.

Then, I will work to see you banned.

Cheers!


47 posted on 10/11/2012 6:49:12 AM PDT by Lazamataz (WAAAAAAAAAHHHhhhhh.....)
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To: TArcher; ansel12
“Walmart will save billions of dollars due to the Durbin legislation”

http://politicsroom.com/2011/09/26/the-walmart-bailout-is-hurting-consumers/

Bracky Obama signed the Dodd-Frank act, including the Durbin Amendment, on July 22, 2010.

Is Walmart’s symbiosis with Bracky Obama(D), Barney Frank(D), Chris Dodd(D), and Dick Durbin(D) — leftist or rightist?

Okay, this one is easy. You look like a fool for postulating it.

'Symbiosis' is defined as -- in the non-biological sense -- as ' a cooperative relationship (as between two persons or groups).

While Dodd-Frank has provided a way for ANY savvy retailer to make money, there is ZERO indication Dodd-Frank was aimed at Walmart.

And given Walmart's right-of-center founder's leanings, there is ZERO indication Walmart either supported or influenced Dodd-Frank in any meaningful way.

Your tenuous and suspect 'linkage' -- a savvy business found a way to make money in the current financial landscape -- is clearly not intended to add to the discussion. Your thesis, based on two unsupported and untrue premises, is meant to cloud discussion and muddy waters.

You are on a Walmart bashing tear in general, and an ansel12 bashing tear in particular.

We are conservatives. We don't bash Walmart for being savvy.

You are a troll.

48 posted on 10/11/2012 7:01:08 AM PDT by Lazamataz (WAAAAAAAAAHHHhhhhh.....)
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To: Lazamataz
Then, I will work to see you banned.

Can i help, huh, can I help? Please can I ?????? LOL!

I have to agree with you - definitely a retread troll.

49 posted on 10/11/2012 7:08:29 AM PDT by Gabz (Democrats for Voldemort.)
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To: Gabz; ansel12; TArcher
S"Then, I will work to see you banned."
Can i help, huh, can I help? Please can I ?????? LOL!
I have to agree with you - definitely a retread troll.

Seemingly a left-oriented troll, from my observation of him or her, here.... but I haven't checked the history yet.

Definitely has tangled with ansel12, but who hasn't. I know I have.

Still, as much of a dweeb as ansel12 is, he is OUR dweeb, and I cover my people's backs.

50 posted on 10/11/2012 7:14:08 AM PDT by Lazamataz (WAAAAAAAAAHHHhhhhh.....)
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