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Men jailed after sniper rifle found in back of minicab in South Croydon
Croydon Toda ^ | 9 Oct 2012 | GarethD2011

Posted on 10/09/2012 9:28:15 PM PDT by smokingfrog

FIVE men have been jailed after a sniper rifle was found in the boot of a minicab in South Croydon.

Tyron Harding, 45, sold the .22 bolt-action rifle and hollow-point ammunition - designed to cause maximum injury - to his fellow defendants on November 1 last year.

Armed police officers stopped Loyan Osman, 25, soon afterwards as he travelled along Brighton Road, South Croydon, in a minicab. In his possession he had 57 rounds of ammunition.

When officers searched the boot of the vehicle they found the rifle with a sniper scope and silencer attached. It was loaded with a bullet in the breach and more in a magazine.

Osman, Anthony Hosey, 28, Khadar Mire, 25, and Nathaniel Tracey, 27, had been watched by officers as they travelled from Lambeth in Mire's BMW to buy the weapon and ammunition from Harding.

As Osman travelled back to Lambeth in the minicab his colleagues followed in the BMW.

Officers arrested Osman after stopping the cab and subsequently detained Hosey, More and Tracey following further investigation.

On December 12, officers searched Harding's girlfriend's house in Huddlestone Crescent, Merstham, which was close to the location where the weapon was purchased.

In the loft they found another .22 bolt-action rifle with a telescopic sight and silencer. Three boxes of hollow-point ammunition, containing 62 rounds, were also recovered. Harding was arrested as he returned home.

Detective Sergeant Phil Holt, of the Met's Trident Gang Crime Command, said: "These men were found in possession of the kind of lethal weaponry that is typically associated with the most dangerous of criminals.

(Excerpt) Read more at thisiscroydontoday.co.uk ...


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OMG! A bolt-action .22 with a scope and hollow point bullets!!
1 posted on 10/09/2012 9:28:22 PM PDT by smokingfrog
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To: smokingfrog

Sniper rifle? Hahahahahaha


2 posted on 10/09/2012 9:30:26 PM PDT by barmag25
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To: smokingfrog

Don’t think I’ve ever seen HP 22LR.


3 posted on 10/09/2012 9:37:15 PM PDT by 1066AD
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To: smokingfrog

I feel bad for laughing at that article now. Those guys just went away for 16 years.


4 posted on 10/09/2012 9:37:31 PM PDT by barmag25
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To: barmag25

Squirrels everywhere are breathing a sigh of relief after the apprehension of this incredibly deadly sniper. Well, everywhere within maybe 100 yards or so.


5 posted on 10/09/2012 9:38:10 PM PDT by coloradan (The US has become a banana republic, except without the bananas - or the republic.)
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To: 1066AD
He pleaded guilty and was sentenced to 11 years in prison last Friday (October 5).

Loyan Osman, of Anchor Street, Sydenham, denied possession of a firearm with intent to endanger life but was convicted following a trial. He was sentenced to 14 years.

The rest of the men pleaded not guilty to possession of a firearm with intent to endanger life but were convicted on June 22 at Woolwich Crown Court.

Anthony Hosey of Fiveways Road, Stockwell, was sentenced to 16 years.

Khadar Mire of Bell Green Lane, Sydenham, was sentenced to 16 years.

Nathaniel Tracey of Akerman Road, Brixton was sentenced to 15 years.

WOW

6 posted on 10/09/2012 9:40:40 PM PDT by 1066AD
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To: smokingfrog

“Possession with the intent to endanger human life”

No. What that cheeky yob had is what we call a “poodle shooter.”

The islanders must think we’re bloodthirsty maniacs. I can ‘t make out the ‘silencer ‘ on my Kindle. What is that—an oven mitt?


7 posted on 10/09/2012 9:41:12 PM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: all armed conservatives)
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To: 1066AD

http://www.midwayusa.com/product/1601314170/remington-ammunition-22-long-rifle-36-grain-plated-lead-hollow-point


8 posted on 10/09/2012 9:43:11 PM PDT by Roccus
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To: smokingfrog

Ooooooh! Scary!


9 posted on 10/09/2012 9:45:14 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: 1066AD

22lf hollow point. Winchester makes them. Buy them in boxes of 333 rounds.


10 posted on 10/09/2012 9:47:03 PM PDT by barmag25
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To: 1066AD
CCI Mini Mag HP for one.

11 posted on 10/09/2012 9:48:58 PM PDT by I see my hands (It's time to.. KICK OUT THE JAMS, MOTHER FREEPERS!)
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To: barmag25

When you read about such lunacy, you immediately realize THERE IS NO PLACE ELSE TO GO for Americans. THIS IS IT. There is NO “Plan B”. If we allow the Communists to win on Nov. 6, IT’S OVER.


12 posted on 10/09/2012 9:49:24 PM PDT by Frank_2001
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To: 1066AD

13 posted on 10/09/2012 9:53:01 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both)
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To: smokingfrog

The article’s hysteria would be laughable if it weren’t so chilling.


14 posted on 10/09/2012 9:55:18 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both)
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To: tumblindice

“What that cheeky yob had is what we call a “poodle shooter.””

Don’t underestimate danger of a .22!

If you shoot someone, and they find out about it, they’re going to be mad! :)


15 posted on 10/09/2012 9:58:25 PM PDT by PastorBooks
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To: smokingfrog
Another reporter with NO KNOWLEDGE of firearms.

A 22LR bolt action rifle IS NOT a sniper rifle no matter what you add to it.

16 posted on 10/09/2012 10:01:49 PM PDT by Robert357 (D.Rather "Hoist with his own petard!" www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1223916/posts)
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To: barmag25

I had no idea the penalties were so severe. It’s legal to own an air rifle in the UK, and that .22 is not much more powerful than many air guns.


17 posted on 10/09/2012 10:04:53 PM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: smokingfrog

The Second Amendment is a joke if the government can limit the kind of weaponry you can possess in your private capacity.

Without a population armed to easily overwhelm a renegade government and the trained forces at its disposal, how can the people be relied upon to be able to overthrow such an oppressor? By taking the chances on a match between private citizens with highly restricted / crippled weapons vs. the forces at the disposal of the State? With the British in 1776, the weaponry was more-or-less matched.


18 posted on 10/09/2012 10:08:17 PM PDT by James C. Bennett (An Australian.)
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To: Robert357

Black September was killed with 22 pistols. Most of you are clowns.


19 posted on 10/09/2012 10:08:52 PM PDT by Domangart
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To: smokingfrog

Yeah, but this rifle HAD A SCOPE ATTACHED!!!11!!!!!1!1


20 posted on 10/09/2012 10:09:14 PM PDT by coloradan (The US has become a banana republic, except without the bananas - or the republic.)
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To: Domangart

The same thing that makes firearms lethal is what makes them useful. But that utility has no place in the hand of slaves.


21 posted on 10/09/2012 10:11:39 PM PDT by coloradan (The US has become a banana republic, except without the bananas - or the republic.)
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To: smokingfrog

I have several .22lf. Not much more than a pellet gun. I even keep one on the porch in the summer just to shoot squrriels in the garden. To think that there are human beings in other countries that are being controlled this much that a. 22lr justifies the ruling class taking as much as 16 years of your life is sickening.


22 posted on 10/09/2012 10:12:02 PM PDT by barmag25
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To: PastorBooks

And 57 (!) rounds of .22 hollowpoint ammunition-—a veritable arsenal—and designed to inflict the maximum amount of bodily injury.
It’s another one of those dreadful, infernal engines of destruction from the States I dare say. Harumph, harumph.


23 posted on 10/09/2012 10:13:28 PM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: all armed conservatives)
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To: smokingfrog
Wow, 57 whole rounds of ammunition. I go through that much just warming up at the range.

What exactly is a "sniper scope" anyway? Sounds cool, where can I get one? Funny, the definitions I've found for sniper list it as a marksman who shoots from a concealed place. Makes no mention of range nor equipment, merely tactics. I suppose good old iron sights would work just fine in many cases. Sniper scope, about as meaningful as "assault rifle" - ie. fact content free.

24 posted on 10/09/2012 10:14:59 PM PDT by ThunderSleeps (Stop obama now! Stop the hussein - insane agenda!)
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To: Roccus
5.56 NATO 75 gr

Not the most deadly ordinance in the world, but still nothing to laugh at.

25 posted on 10/09/2012 10:16:56 PM PDT by delacoert
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To: Vendome

A .22 hollow point at 100 yards is deadly if these guys were average shots. It’s not mentioned in the article, but given the names, I’d say these were sniper/terrorists. Sixteen years isn’t enough.


26 posted on 10/09/2012 10:16:56 PM PDT by VanShuyten ("a shadow...draped nobly in the folds of a gorgeous eloquence.")
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To: smokingfrog

If I ever find out where the heck Sough Croydon is, I’ll make a point of staying clear.


27 posted on 10/09/2012 10:19:34 PM PDT by gitmo ( If your theology doesn't become your biography it's useless.)
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To: gitmo

Suburban London, UK


28 posted on 10/09/2012 10:21:57 PM PDT by RitchieAprile (The 'great orator' Joe Biden? *That* Joe Biden??)
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To: smokingfrog

They were armor piercing hollow points. It was a .22 Cal AK47. Their plan was to bring down an Army helicopter. The rifle was fully automatic.


29 posted on 10/09/2012 10:22:13 PM PDT by lurk
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To: Domangart
Black September was killed with 22 pistols. Most of you are clowns.

By trained operatives at point blank range.

So what does it say about you when a guy with floppy shoes and a rubber nose can confidently call you an idiot?

30 posted on 10/09/2012 10:23:24 PM PDT by papertyger
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They were armor piercing hollow points. It was a .22 Cal AK47. Their plan was to bring down an Army helicopter. The rifle was fully automatic.

That's not what the story says.

31 posted on 10/09/2012 10:25:49 PM PDT by papertyger
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To: Domangart

I saw that movie! ‘Munich’ right? The Israeli agents were frantically assembling their .22 weapons, cleverly disguised as bicycle pumps, while the hot Dutch babe was fumbling behind her back in a drawer for what appeared to be a Beretta .25.
Talk about ‘clowns’. I thought they were going to ask her to have a seat while they finished assembling their bicycle pump pea shooters! Eventually they figured it out. So the audience wonders, why didn’t she have a smoke, then smoke the Israeli ‘Maxwell Smarts’?


32 posted on 10/09/2012 10:27:33 PM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: all armed conservatives)
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To: VanShuyten

Those are pretty pathetic excuses for sniper/terrorists if they’re fielding bolt action .22s.


33 posted on 10/09/2012 10:28:20 PM PDT by papertyger
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To: smokingfrog

This is unreal. A total of 71 years of prison time for the same exact item which we use in the states to teach marksmanship to kids. I can only imagine what would have happened if these cops had pulled me over a couple years ago on the way to a Boy Scout campout.

12 .22 rifles + 10 boxes of 525 rounds each, along with 4 shotguns and 500 rounds for them. I would have been given the death penalty.

God Bless Texas!


34 posted on 10/09/2012 10:28:33 PM PDT by tpmintx (Problem: The people who work for a living are outnumbered by those who VOTE for a living.)
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To: lurk

Picture at the article of the pellet gun


35 posted on 10/09/2012 10:28:55 PM PDT by barmag25
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To: papertyger
That's not what the story says.

Perhaps you missed the sarcasm?

36 posted on 10/09/2012 10:31:12 PM PDT by tpmintx (Problem: The people who work for a living are outnumbered by those who VOTE for a living.)
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To: lurk

A .22LR isn’t going to pierce much armor. A .223 will pierce a little.

But you don’t bring down a helicopter with .22. You bring it down with a shotgun firing a cable or large bolo.

That’s what the insurgents in Iraq would use against us. They are also using high-powered civilian lasers to blind/disorient drivers and pilots.

Look for those attacks coming to your city intersections in the future.


37 posted on 10/09/2012 10:31:26 PM PDT by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: lurk

The article says “bolt action.” FYI, “bolt action” is incompatible with “fully automatic.”


38 posted on 10/09/2012 10:34:00 PM PDT by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: barmag25
To think that there are human beings in other countries that are being controlled this much that a. 22lr justifies the ruling class taking as much as 16 years of your life is sickening.

If my son were the fascist bastard "human being" using such overblown rhetoric to describe a friggin' .22, he'd never set foot in my house again.

39 posted on 10/09/2012 10:35:34 PM PDT by papertyger
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To: papertyger

The police description was a little over the top


40 posted on 10/09/2012 10:37:38 PM PDT by barmag25
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To: tpmintx

Yeah, I did. We got morons on this thread talking about professional hit teams already, so you can forgive me my mistake, won’t you?


41 posted on 10/09/2012 10:39:29 PM PDT by papertyger
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To: smokingfrog

Yes, some air rifles are legal in the UK. However there are strictly enforced limits on the power of even the air rifles. It really is pretty low so that what is considered the low end rifle in the US is just barely legal in the UK. The rig described is simply a modest small game/squirrel/garden pest eliminator.


42 posted on 10/09/2012 10:41:28 PM PDT by aaCharley (UK nonsense, gun rights, rifle, squirrel,)
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The police description was a little over the top

"Over the top?"

I'd call it criminal.

43 posted on 10/09/2012 10:44:16 PM PDT by papertyger
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To: Domangart

Yes, but they also shot them 11 times.


44 posted on 10/09/2012 10:46:50 PM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: smokingfrog

Re post this article tomorrow evening or late afternoon. Higher traffic then. This needs to be seen as a reminder of what could happen here should we let our guard down along


45 posted on 10/09/2012 10:47:12 PM PDT by barmag25
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To: aaCharley
The rig described is simply a modest small game/squirrel/garden pest eliminator.

What does it say about an "ally" that hands out 16 year jail sentences for the same kind of rig we train kids half that age on?

46 posted on 10/09/2012 10:48:44 PM PDT by papertyger
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To: papertyger
You and I should be 100 yards apart, each of us with a bolt-action .22, scoped for the distance, and loaded with the yellow jacket ammo in the picture above.

I get the first shot.

47 posted on 10/09/2012 10:49:49 PM PDT by VanShuyten ("a shadow...draped nobly in the folds of a gorgeous eloquence.")
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To: VanShuyten
You and I should be 100 yards apart, each of us with a bolt-action .22, scoped for the distance, and loaded with the yellow jacket ammo in the picture above. I get the first shot.

So you're going to double down on "asinine?"

A bow and arrow can be lethal at a hundred yards too, but you don't see anyone with the sense of a squirrel buying the idea it's a terrorist weapon.

48 posted on 10/09/2012 10:55:33 PM PDT by papertyger
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To: smokingfrog

http://www.croydonguardian.co.uk/news/9972127.Five_jailed_after_sniper_rifles_seized/


49 posted on 10/09/2012 10:57:09 PM PDT by ltc8k6
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Detective Sergeant Phil Holt, of the Trident Gang Crime Command, said: "These men were found in possession of the kind of lethal weaponry that is typically associated with the most dangerous of criminals.

"Such items are owned solely by those intent on causing serious harm to their planned target or targets, and our officers deserve huge credit for this intervention which followed a skilled and painstaking investigation.

"We can only speculate about the intended recipient of the second rifle found at Harding's home, however, what is clear is that London is far safer with these individuals and weapons off the streets."

They have GOT to be KIDDING!

50 posted on 10/09/2012 11:02:30 PM PDT by papertyger
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