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Editorial: County tax on guns, ammo a reasonable idea (IL)
suntimes.com ^ | 9 October, 2012 | NA

Posted on 10/10/2012 9:31:25 AM PDT by marktwain

Someone standing at the intersection can see Stroger Hospital to the east, where many gunshot victims are treated; the Cook County Juvenile Temporary Detention Center to the south, where many shooters are incarcerated, and the Cook County medical examiner’s office to the west, where many shooting victims lie dead.

That intersection would be a good spot to reflect on the huge cost of Chicago’s gun violence and why Cook County Board President Toni Preckwinkle’s proposal for a tax on guns and ammunition is more than reasonable.

Trying to close a $115 million gap in the 2013 budget she will present next week, Preckwinkle has said she favors a tax on guns and ammunition that would help offset the huge cost to the county of gun violence.

“Cook County suffers from systemic gun violence,” Preckwinkle said at a press briefing Tuesday. “The wide availability of ammunition exacerbates the problem.”

The county estimates the cost to treat an uninsured gunshot victim at Stroger Hospital at $52,000. The total cost of each gun homicide nationwide is $400,000, when you add in police work, court proceedings and other costs, according to Elliot N. Fineman of the National Gun Victims Action Council. Chicago’s homicide rate is up 25 percent this year over last. So it doesn’t seem at all unreasonable to us to ask purchasers of guns and ammunition to help defray the cost.

There are no gun shops in Chicago, but Preckwinkle said there are about 40 in the suburbs and several other stores that sell ammunition. A report by Chicago Police and the University of Chicago found nearly a third of guns found on Chicago streets, including at crime scenes, were sold at suburban gun shops.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events; US: Illinois
KEYWORDS: ammo; banglist; il; tax
The power to tax is the power to destroy.
1 posted on 10/10/2012 9:31:31 AM PDT by marktwain
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To: marktwain

I’ll leave it to my learned co-conservatives to knock this idiotic suggestion out of the park.

I’m waiting for this cretiness to start stage one: getting all those felons out there to register their guns so that they can be taxed.

The stupidity of a liberal knows no bounds.


2 posted on 10/10/2012 9:34:14 AM PDT by Da Coyote
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To: marktwain

It is not surprising that they fail to mention that increasing numbers of guns has coincided with decreasing crimes with guns.


3 posted on 10/10/2012 9:34:54 AM PDT by marktwain
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To: marktwain

Example of the communists attempt to control and the take over of America.


4 posted on 10/10/2012 9:35:10 AM PDT by Logical me
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To: marktwain

Let’s see, the people doing all the shooting already have to go outside the county to buy their handguns, do these idiots really think they won’t do the same for ammo?


5 posted on 10/10/2012 9:35:28 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: marktwain
Are those who are buying stolen guns and ammo on the street paying the tax?

6 posted on 10/10/2012 9:39:15 AM PDT by BitWielder1 (Corporate Profits are better than Government Waste)
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To: marktwain

“Chicago’s homicide rate is up 25 percent this year over last. So it doesn’t seem at all unreasonable to us to ask purchasers of guns and ammunition to help defray the cost.”

Typical, hugely-flawed, lib-dem-gun grabber “logic”.

Idiots!


7 posted on 10/10/2012 9:39:59 AM PDT by carriage_hill (Libs, dems, unions, leftist scum & murderous muzzies - are like bacteria: attack, attack, attack!)
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To: marktwain
Why is it that the places with the most gun violence are the places with the strictest gun control?

Cause or effect?

8 posted on 10/10/2012 9:42:16 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (That was sarcasm, you moron.)
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To: marktwain

Why not add a violence tax to car sales? After all, cars are used in drive by shootings. Or a violence tax to alcohol? Or the sale of rap music? Or half a dozen other ancillary objects?


9 posted on 10/10/2012 9:42:24 AM PDT by taxcontrol
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To: marktwain
It's obscene to tax people to pay for damages they are not responsible for causing.

Instead, they should tax cocaine, heroin, crack, spinners, hip hop and rap.

10 posted on 10/10/2012 9:43:23 AM PDT by sjmjax (Politicans are like bananas - they start out green, turn yellow, then rot.)
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To: marktwain
What part of "shall not be infringed" do they not understand?

I don't think Cook County even recognizes the Constitution anymore.

11 posted on 10/10/2012 9:44:54 AM PDT by backwoods-engineer (My game is disruption. I will use lethal force --my vote-- in self-defense against Obama.)
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To: marktwain
Lovely!

I can just see the unintended consequences of this one.

Huge tax on ammunition. Black-market ammunition reloaders move into Chicago. Supplying ammo becomes the new rum-running of petty criminals. Soon, people start getting killed by firearms blowing up in their hands. Then there is a cry for government regulation and standards on ammo so that “innocent” “youths” are not hurt by this evil “drug.” Oh, yes, we will soon need a full blown “war on ammo!”

This is not about the budget, it is about the illusion of gun control and more specifically about politicians fear of an armed and angry electorate.

12 posted on 10/10/2012 9:49:51 AM PDT by Robert357 (D.Rather "Hoist with his own petard!" www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1223916/posts)
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To: Da Coyote; All

It makes perfect sense if you are a gun hating liberal.

Tax someone else - great idea from a liberal viewpoint!

Tax someone you dispise, to pay for your largesse, a perfect liberal idea.


13 posted on 10/10/2012 9:50:06 AM PDT by marktwain
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To: carriage_hill

I have an idea that is (equally flawed but) just as logical. Since the homicide rate is up so much, they should reduce the salary and benefits of the police force by 25% to help defray the costs.


14 posted on 10/10/2012 9:54:03 AM PDT by NEMDF
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To: marktwain

Maybe we should be taxing the gang member “yoots”?


15 posted on 10/10/2012 9:54:08 AM PDT by QBFimi (When gunpowder speaks, beasts listen.)
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To: marktwain

“Editorial: County tax on guns, ammo a reasonable idea (IL)”

Since the apparent goal is to raise revenue, improve the quality of life, and deter bad behavior, here’s an even MORE reasonable idea; involuntary organ donation for criminals involved in a shooting. Someone’s got to pay for those emergency room “visits”, and I don’t think Mom and Dad’s insurance covers this.


16 posted on 10/10/2012 9:54:43 AM PDT by The Antiyuppie ("When small men cast long shadows, then it is very late in the day.")
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To: marktwain
Don't tax Colt .45s.

Tax


17 posted on 10/10/2012 10:04:05 AM PDT by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: NEMDF

That’d sure help, bigtime.

But if they’d just catch and ***KILL*** all the criminals, homicides would drop by 96%+. Zero recidivism.


18 posted on 10/10/2012 10:05:16 AM PDT by carriage_hill (Libs, dems, unions, leftist scum & murderous muzzies - are like bacteria: attack, attack, attack!)
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To: carriage_hill

Here in Texas we call it “permanent rehabilitation”.


19 posted on 10/10/2012 10:11:28 AM PDT by jimt (Fear is the darkroom where negatives are developed.)
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To: marktwain

this is like taxing rape victims for hospital treatment from rape violence.

seriously. law abiding folks who have guns are the victims, tax the people responsible for the violence. we know who they are, they are the criminals doing the crimes. they don’t get their guns and ammo from legit places. and if you’re mexican drug guy, Holder’s giving you guns on purpose.


20 posted on 10/10/2012 10:17:17 AM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: marktwain
The same folks who are shooting each other really aren't going to worry much about a tax.

OTOH, this is how they got Capone--tax evasion.

21 posted on 10/10/2012 10:21:14 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
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To: marktwain
They want a tax on exercising Second Amendment Rights?

Fine. I want a tax on First Amendment rights. Let the papers pay by the column inch for the right to publish, and hit them with back taxes all the way back to their founding dates. Milk 'em dry. The money will go to women and minorities: the communities hardest hit by journalistic irresponsibility, after all. Everybody's happy, right?

22 posted on 10/10/2012 10:24:11 AM PDT by jboot (This isn't your father's America. Stay safe and keep your powder dry.)
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To: marktwain

I always like how the Left defines what is “reasonable”. Comrades, anything that works against 2nd Amendment rights is “reasonable”. /s


23 posted on 10/10/2012 10:29:18 AM PDT by TexasRepublic (Socialism is the gospel of envy and the religion of thieves)
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To: marktwain

How about a 100% tax on newspapers?


24 posted on 10/10/2012 10:34:24 AM PDT by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: marktwain

If they want to reduce “gun violence” what they need to do is legalize and tax marijuana and use some of the proceeds for drug treatment. The gangs will lose most of their business and will have nothing to fight over.


25 posted on 10/10/2012 11:19:24 AM PDT by CtBigPat (Free Republic - The grown-ups table of the internet.)
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To: marktwain

If the “violence tax” on all ammunition and guns is a good idea, how about a “rape tax” on all alcohol purchases and restaurant meals. After all, rape is frequently associated with alcohol consumption or with dining out. My idea is precisely as sensible as this Chicago proposal.


26 posted on 10/10/2012 12:34:27 PM PDT by Pollster1 (Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. - Ronald Reagan)
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To: Pollster1

“Fat Tax”... the more calories per serving a food item is, the more tax you pay... I guess that means beer drinkers would get taxed twice...


27 posted on 10/10/2012 12:42:27 PM PDT by Tuanedge (Warriors victorious in a hundred battles, flee when a tiger enters their tent.)
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To: marktwain

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October 9, 2012

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28 posted on 10/10/2012 5:21:05 PM PDT by KeyLargo
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