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Military Families Balk At Health Fee ("as much as $200 a month")
Kaiser Health News ^ | 10 Oct 2012 | Wall Street Journal

Posted on 10/10/2012 10:18:01 AM PDT by 11th_VA

A provision in the national health care law that lets young adults stay on their parents' insurance plan is popular with many families -- but not ones in the military.

Families covered by Tricare, the health program for active and retired members of the military, must pay as much as $200 a month to let an adult child stay on their plan until age 26.

Most families in private plans now pay no fee to extend such coverage. Military families are starting to complain about the disparity, saying they can't afford those premiums and have let their children go uninsured (10/9).


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Definitely debate material for Ryan - I hope he's reading ...
1 posted on 10/10/2012 10:18:09 AM PDT by 11th_VA
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To: 11th_VA
"have let their children go uninsured"

0bamaRomneyCare: Causing people to drop their Health Insurance!

2 posted on 10/10/2012 10:20:17 AM PDT by Uncle Miltie (You didn't build that. The private sector is doing fine. We tried our plan and it worked.)
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To: 11th_VA

Why doesn’t Tricare change?


3 posted on 10/10/2012 10:21:44 AM PDT by stuartcr ("When silence speaks, it speaks only to those that have already decided what they want to hear.")
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To: 11th_VA

Hmmmm.....if you offered that plan to the general public, they’d consider it a fantastic bargain and snap it up. Most healthy individuals can’t get anything for under $500 a month.


4 posted on 10/10/2012 10:23:36 AM PDT by proxy_user
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To: 11th_VA

Actually I think private plans might be much more. At my workplace, the dependent “child” who is not a full-time student and under 26 is charged at FULL ADULT PRICE, not subsidized by the employer. I think that runs at least $400-$500/month here, probably normal.

This may be one of those situations where it is just ASSUMED that the private sector has some great deal.


5 posted on 10/10/2012 10:23:44 AM PDT by NEMDF
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To: 11th_VA

Hmmmm.....if you offered that plan to the general public, they’d consider it a fantastic bargain and snap it up. Most healthy individuals can’t get anything for under $500 a month.


6 posted on 10/10/2012 10:23:44 AM PDT by proxy_user
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To: 11th_VA

Military families don’t vote Rat so why should they get any “goodies”?


7 posted on 10/10/2012 10:24:11 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Ambassador Stevens Is Dead And The Chevy Volt Is Alive)
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To: proxy_user
That's cheap.

And it's for "kids" up to age 26.

No sympathy from me.

8 posted on 10/10/2012 10:26:24 AM PDT by NEPA (Give me liberty, not debt)
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To: Uncle Miltie

WTF is “0bamaRomneyCare?”

You’ve been brainwashed to believe they are the same?


9 posted on 10/10/2012 10:31:18 AM PDT by jessduntno ("Socialism only works...in Heaven where they don't need it and hell where they have it." - RR)
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To: jessduntno

That’s probably a democrat. I tried to explain federalism to it but it didn’t understand that Romney is against the federal government being involved in healthcare.He’s just mad Romney destroyed his Obama Marxist in the debate. Made a fool of that POS Obama lol


10 posted on 10/10/2012 10:33:40 AM PDT by Democrat_media (limit government to 5000 words of laws. Quantify limited government)
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To: NEPA

Rank
<2 Years Experience 4 Years 6 Years Experience
Private (E1) $17,892** — —
Private (E2) $20,056 $20,056 $20,056
Private (E3) $21,089 $23,774 $23,774
Corporal (E4) $23,360 $27,198 $28,357
Sergeant (E5) $25,489 $29,851 $31,946
Staff Sgt(E6) $27,814 $33,268 $34,636
*Based on 2012 pay tables.

**Pay for Private (E1) will be slightly lower for the first four months of service.


11 posted on 10/10/2012 10:37:33 AM PDT by stocksthatgoup (ZERO DARK THIRTY (coming soon to an embassy near you))
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To: NEMDF
Actually I think private plans might be much more. At my workplace, the dependent “child” who is not a full-time student and under 26 is charged at FULL ADULT PRICE, not subsidized by the employer. I think that runs at least $400-$500/month here, probably normal. This may be one of those situations where it is just ASSUMED that the private sector has some great deal.

The dirty little secret is... it is costing employers a fortune and they dare not say a word IMHO because they fear "the One's" Administration coming down on them like some here theorize when they went after Toyota to help out GM....

If I am correct watch the mask come of this mess sometime after 11/7 or maybe in the spring....

12 posted on 10/10/2012 10:38:43 AM PDT by taildragger (( Fubarward Obama 2012, think about it :-) ))
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To: Democrat_media; Uncle Miltie

In regard to ObamaCare, Romney firmly believes that each state should have the right to craft its own health care program. In his book, No Apology, Romney states:

“My own preference is to let each state fashion its own program to meet the distinct needs of its citizens. States could follow the Massachusetts model if they choose, or they could develop plans of their own. These plans, tested in the state ‘laboratories of democracy,’ could be evaluated, compared, improved upon, and adopted by others.”

In keeping with the belief that states should be able to craft their own programs, Romney has said that on his first day as president, he would issue a waiver to all 50 states allowing them to opt out of ObamaCare. This waiver would allow states to postpone the implementation of ObamaCare while Romney works with congress to formally repeal the bill.


13 posted on 10/10/2012 10:39:22 AM PDT by jessduntno ("Socialism only works...in Heaven where they don't need it and hell where they have it." - RR)
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To: NEPA
No sympathy from me.

Nor should there be.

There is more to this.
Military kids have free health care until 21, unless they are enrolled in college full time, then it is 23. (but they have to maintain full time status) Get married and you lose the benefit.

I have counseled my daughter to stay in school and persue a masters. Times are tough and it sounds a lot better to say you are a poor grad student than an unemployed college grad. That helps her keep coverage. Once she turns 23 and is working she can pay the $200. Not my responsibility.

14 posted on 10/10/2012 10:42:13 AM PDT by Gamecock
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To: proxy_user

They’re complaining because this is NOT how it’s done elsewhere. If everyone had to pay that, then we’d be fine.

When ObamaCare was first passed, the extended coverage option applied to everyone EXCEPT military. Why is every college-age kid in the nation able to stay on their parents’ insurance except military children? ObamaCare specifically denied this only to military dependents.

That pissed us off.

Now, they’re letting us keep our kids on, but we have to pay what others don’t.

The question we ask is, why does this administration keep singling US out??

We’ll take the hit and pay our due. But we won’t accept being the exception to every friggin’ rule.


15 posted on 10/10/2012 10:50:04 AM PDT by Marie ("The last time Democrats gloated this hard after a health care victory, they lost 60 House seats.")
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To: jessduntno; Democrat_media; Uncle Miltie; All

It is a concept called Federalism...


16 posted on 10/10/2012 11:04:28 AM PDT by KevinDavis (Romney / Ryan 2012)
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To: stuartcr

Pretty much takes an Act of Congress to change anything in TRICARE.


17 posted on 10/10/2012 11:20:27 AM PDT by ops33 (Senior Master Sergeant, USAF (Retired))
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To: jessduntno

Any government at any level that arrogates unto itself the power to dictate to you how you must spend your money on penalty of prison is your slave-master.

If RomneyCare in Massachusetts required everyone to spend 100% of their income on broccoli or go to prison, how is that functionally different than requiring people to buy health care?

If a government can direct your life’s energy (earnings) at their whim, you have no freedom. You have serfdom at best, and slavery at worst.

I care not a whit whether the man with the gun to my head is from the White House or the State House.

Federalism is not an argument for turning the ownership of the government by the people into the ownership of the people by the government.


18 posted on 10/10/2012 11:28:49 AM PDT by Uncle Miltie (You didn't build that. The private sector is doing fine. We tried our plan and it worked.)
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To: All

so in order for our kids to stay on the Tricare rolls, they need to pay 2400 per year? Not bad.


19 posted on 10/10/2012 11:29:15 AM PDT by newnhdad (Where will you be during the Election Riots of 2012/2013?)
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To: ops33

Are any congress people looking into this?


20 posted on 10/10/2012 11:29:46 AM PDT by stuartcr ("When silence speaks, it speaks only to those that have already decided what they want to hear.")
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To: KevinDavis

Any government at any level that arrogates unto itself the power to dictate to you how you must spend your money on penalty of prison is your slave-master.

If RomneyCare in Massachusetts required everyone to spend 100% of their income on broccoli or go to prison, how is that functionally different than requiring people to buy health care?

If a government can direct your life’s energy (earnings) at their whim, you have no freedom. You have serfdom at best, and slavery at worst.

I care not a whit whether the man with the gun to my head is from the White House or the State House.

Federalism is not an argument for turning the ownership of the government by the people into the ownership of the people by the government.


21 posted on 10/10/2012 11:34:44 AM PDT by Uncle Miltie (You didn't build that. The private sector is doing fine. We tried our plan and it worked.)
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To: stuartcr

“Why doesn’t Tricare change?”

Because Nancy, Obama and the Apollo group didn’t want it to change as part of the “Affordable Health Care act”?

You expect them to make it easy for military members?


22 posted on 10/10/2012 11:35:54 AM PDT by listenhillary (Courts, law enforcement, roads and national defense should be the extent of government)
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To: jessduntno

Confirmed: Romneycare = Obamacare

By Michelle Malkin • January 26, 2012 10:32 AM

http://michellemalkin.com/2012/01/26/confirmed-romneycare-obamacare/

“White House visitor logs obtained by NBC News revealed that three of Romney’s healthcare advisers had up to a dozen meetings with senior administration officials, including one in the Oval Office presided over by President Barack Obama.

“They really wanted to know how we can take that same approach we used in Massachusetts and turn that into a national model,” MIT economist and Romney healthcare adviser Jon Gruber told NBC.

...

“Industrial-strength nose plugs can’t cover the stench.”


23 posted on 10/10/2012 11:40:11 AM PDT by Uncle Miltie (You didn't build that. The private sector is doing fine. We tried our plan and it worked.)
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To: stuartcr

Doubt it.


24 posted on 10/10/2012 12:53:23 PM PDT by ops33 (Senior Master Sergeant, USAF (Retired))
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To: stocksthatgoup

Wouldn’t imagine any E1, E2’s or E3’s have children that are 26 yrs old. IMO a 26 yr old is not a kid and should be on their own. They can always join the military


25 posted on 10/10/2012 1:46:57 PM PDT by katiedidit1 (Constitutionalist..period)
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To: Marie

Wrong. It depends on how the employer’s insurance is set up.

Where I work, an employee plus spouse pay one premium level. They add a kid (birth to age 26), then they’re going to change to a higher premium level and pay more.

Until 2 years ago, an employee plus spouse paid the same premium as a family with 2 adults and 5 kids. That wasn’t exactly fair, either.


26 posted on 10/10/2012 2:45:20 PM PDT by Spirit of Liberty (If you build it, Obama wants credit!)
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To: Uncle Miltie

“Any government at any level that arrogates unto itself the power to dictate to you how you must spend your money on penalty of prison is your slave-master.”

Nice evasion of the point.


27 posted on 10/10/2012 6:58:57 PM PDT by jessduntno ("Socialism only works...in Heaven where they don't need it and hell where they have it." - RR)
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To: All

I’ve started calling it obamaDOESN’Tcare.


28 posted on 10/10/2012 8:30:37 PM PDT by Terry Mross
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To: Terry Mross
Maybe too subtle, but my preferred label is ‘zerocare’.
29 posted on 10/10/2012 9:04:49 PM PDT by plsjr (<>< ... HIS will be done! (choose a "lesser evil"? NEVER AGAIN))
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To: 11th_VA
For some reason I think the Military is getting a tad upset this election cycle:


30 posted on 10/11/2012 8:25:53 AM PDT by Mad Dawgg (If you're going to deny my 1st Amendment rights then I must proceed to the 2nd one...)
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