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Evidence of Armstrong doping 'overwhelming,' agency says
CNN ^ | 10-10-2012 | Michael Pearson

Posted on 10/10/2012 1:39:35 PM PDT by servo1969

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To: servo1969

Strong evidence of attention whoring to raise funds.


51 posted on 10/10/2012 4:25:09 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: servo1969

Do you notice that they never say what he doped with all of those years that didn’t show up in all of those tests. It must have been magic beans:-) They also don’t explain how he passed the tests. The winners know they are going to be tested. The teammates have just a chance to get tested. I believe the teammates might have doped to just keep up with Lance’s ability. The team leader also gets an easier time of it by using the teammates to always block the wind and to run down breakaways so he does have to expend too much energy until it really counts. However, from my athletic days, winning these types of events is much more about the ability to push through pain than pure athletic ability.


52 posted on 10/10/2012 4:27:09 PM PDT by Revolutionary ("Praise the Lord and Pass the Ammunition!")
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To: Cicero

I think this is more an issue of turf war rather than an issue over one rider. (see WE got him and you could not)

Not Guilty/Guilty perhaps, but what about the due process. You don’t just had a stack of deal induced confessions and then scream confess. (nobody expect the spanish inquisition! da da dummmmmmm)

the evidence should have been fully transparent, examined, sumbect to discovery, depostions, iow a full blown defense with the burden of proof to the accuser. NOT prover yourself innocent.


53 posted on 10/10/2012 4:34:11 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: frithguild
Landis was not on Armstrong’s team when he got busted.

That is true. Landis rode with Armstrong in 2002, 03 and 04 during the time the team was alleged to have participated in "the most sophisticated, professionalized and successful doping program that sport has ever seen," .

My question is, if it was so damn successful, then why did Landis go off the reservation and partake of other drugs that ultimately got him busted?

Since Landis has already been convicted of being both a liar and a cheat, why is he suddenly being portrayed as the arbiter of truth and honesty? The question that hasn't been asked is what kind of amnesty is he being promised for his questionable testimony? And the same question can be asked of the other teammates of Armstrong........Do I need to expand it to the other top riders in the CIU who have curiously been exempt from the same scrutiny?

Until the USADA has pursued the other cyclists in the CIU with the same ferocity as they have gone after Armstrong then they are nothing but partisan witch hunters following a govt. driven agenda.......

54 posted on 10/10/2012 4:41:56 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (Jab him with a harpoon.....)
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To: servo1969

I know shop owners...high end

My brother used to ride long hauls

Consensus is ...guilty and its very sad

I just texted my bro this link..
Response was “guilty....most do it but ain’t right...its cheating”


55 posted on 10/10/2012 4:46:57 PM PDT by wardaddy (my wife prays in the tanning bed....guess what region i live in...ya'll?)
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To: servo1969

I know shop owners...high end

My brother used to ride long hauls

Consensus is ...guilty and its very sad

I just texted my bro this link..
Response was “guilty....most do it but ain’t right...its cheating”


56 posted on 10/10/2012 4:47:11 PM PDT by wardaddy (my wife prays in the tanning bed....guess what region i live in...ya'll?)
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To: servo1969

I see this crap of our metero athlete

And I say

LONG LIVE ROGER MARIS!


57 posted on 10/10/2012 4:49:12 PM PDT by wardaddy (my wife prays in the tanning bed....guess what region i live in...ya'll?)
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To: Hot Tabasco
""If you ain't cheatin', you ain't tryin'" is an old NASCAR expression. Junior Johnson had this to say about his creativity when it came to building cars:

"I loved the game. Maybe I'd have four of five new things on a car that might raise a question. But I'd always leave something that was outside of the regulations in a place where the inspectors could easily find it."

58 posted on 10/10/2012 7:21:59 PM PDT by Paladin2
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just from what I've read and heard, which is limited, I've always read that Armstrong repeatedly stating that he never failed a drug test....

but I've never read nor heard him say..."I didn't do drugs".....

59 posted on 10/10/2012 8:30:47 PM PDT by cherry
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To: servo1969

The runt who runs this laughable US Anti Doping agency is a lawyer looking to make name a for himself. Everyone was doping back then so I could care less if Lance Armstrong and his team were. I like the Tour De France but doping (your own blood stored a while back, then transufused for competition) has been going on for years and others were doing it bigger than Lance Armstrong


60 posted on 10/10/2012 11:42:39 PM PDT by dennisw (Government be yo mamma - Re-elect Barack Obama)
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To: Hot Tabasco
why did Landis go off the reservation and partake of other drugs that ultimately got him busted?

Landis thought he was big enough to run an enterprise like Armstrong's. But when it came time he got caught, probably because he was secretly ratted out by somebody who knew Landis' techniques - maybe a competitor that taught him had motive? There are very few coincidences in life.

In a RICO prosecution, a lot of bad actors get immunity for cooperation. It is up to the fact finder, usually a jury, to decide if the testimony should be disregarded. If a case rests on one witness, like Landis, it sucks. If it rests on many inferences all pointing on one direction, then a fact finder will likely side with the prosecution - because the fish is rotten from the head.

I understand your point, but I disagree with your conclusion. The bigger the guy that is taken down, the bigger the deterrent to those that the corrupt enterprise may recruit.

I never wore those Live Strong bracelets, because I always sensed something was up with Armstrong's performances. Now I'm going to wear then to taunt all those, mostly libs, that worshiped a false image.

61 posted on 10/11/2012 9:30:40 AM PDT by frithguild (You can call me Snippy the Anti-Freeper)
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