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Supreme Court justices cast doubt on Texas program that looks at race in college admissions
AP/WaPo ^ | 10/10/12

Posted on 10/10/2012 8:21:23 PM PDT by markomalley

Supreme Court justices sharply questioned the University of Texas’ use of race in college admissions Wednesday in a case that could lead to new limits on affirmative action.

The court heard arguments in a challenge to the program from a white Texan who contends she was discriminated against when the university did not offer her a spot in 2008.

The court’s conservatives cast doubt on the program that uses race as one among many factors in admitting about a quarter of the university’s incoming freshmen. The liberal justices appeared more supportive of the effort.

Justice Anthony Kennedy, whose vote could be decisive, looked skeptically on Texas’ defense of the program. “What you’re saying is what counts is race above all,” Kennedy said. He has never voted in favor of an affirmative action program but has voiced support for diversity in education.

Twenty-two-year-old Abigail Fisher, the rejected student who sued, was among the hundreds of spectators at the arguments. Also in attendance was retired Justice Sandra Day O’Connor, who wrote the majority opinion in a 2003 case that upheld the use of race in college admissions.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonpost.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Front Page News; Government; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: texas

1 posted on 10/10/2012 8:21:29 PM PDT by markomalley
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To: markomalley; All

I’m just guessing that Sonja Sotomayor, a member and former legal counsel to the Hispanic Ku Klux Klan (La Raza-The Race) is probably going to rule in favor of affirmative action...just guessing


2 posted on 10/10/2012 8:24:22 PM PDT by SeminoleCounty (Political maturity is realizing that the "R" next to someone's name does not mean "conservative")
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To: markomalley

I bet they allow it. Watch it be a 4-4 tie which lets the lower court support for it stand


3 posted on 10/10/2012 8:24:31 PM PDT by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: markomalley
Also in attendance was retired Justice Sandra Day O’Connor, who wrote the majority opinion in a 2003 case that upheld the use of race in college admissions.

Who nominated her?

/johnny

4 posted on 10/10/2012 8:25:28 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: All


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5 posted on 10/10/2012 8:25:37 PM PDT by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: musicman
Didn't Kennedy write the dissent in the Michigan case
6 posted on 10/10/2012 8:31:32 PM PDT by scooby321 (AMS)
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To: markomalley
Supreme Court justices sharply questioned...

Liberals shouldn't worry. Robert's will step in at the last minute and F the thing up royal.

7 posted on 10/10/2012 8:38:15 PM PDT by Poison Pill (Take your silver lining and SHOVE IT!)
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To: JRandomFreeper

Bush 1 put her on the court.....


8 posted on 10/10/2012 8:39:41 PM PDT by goat granny
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To: goat granny
Try again.

/johnny

9 posted on 10/10/2012 8:41:58 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: markomalley
Also in attendance was retired Justice Sandra Day O’Connor, who wrote the majority opinion in a 2003 case that upheld the use of race in college admissions.

it was between the brothers, Kay...

10 posted on 10/10/2012 8:45:19 PM PDT by Alter Kaker (Gravitation is a theory, not a fact. It should be approached with an open mind...)
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To: markomalley

Bah! Roberts will figure out that affirmative action is a tax on white people — which it is.


11 posted on 10/10/2012 8:55:50 PM PDT by AZLiberty (No tag today.)
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To: JRandomFreeper

ANSWER: RONALD REAGAN
QUESTION: Who nominated Sandra Day O’Connor??


12 posted on 10/10/2012 9:15:31 PM PDT by dodger
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To: dodger
S'ok. I've been assured that Romney will do better.

/johnny

13 posted on 10/10/2012 9:22:03 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: JRandomFreeper; goat granny

I thought Reagan nominated SDO’C.


14 posted on 10/10/2012 9:25:28 PM PDT by Jane Long (Soli Deo Gloria!)
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To: Poison Pill

This is a more complicated case; victim 1 claims her rights were infringed by victim 2. These challenges were bound to show up once Hispanics outnumbered blacks (where I work some departments are 75% Hispanic, without a single black American); the “replacement Americans” imported to replace our blacks (and eventually all of us) gave companies a loophole so they don’t have to deal with either blacks or females.

As long as affirmative action stands in any form, expect the white birthrate to continue to plummet, and get accustomed to hearing twenty different languages in your neighborhood; this policy has created a demographic nightmare (not down the road, but NOW) that will be impossible to reverse.


15 posted on 10/10/2012 9:32:25 PM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic war against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: markomalley

CJ Roberts will find 75 ways to twist and turn this into a tax that UT can levy on white girls who do too well in high school!!

Affirmative action isn’t going anywhere. If it were, zero wouldn’t be America’s worst president EVER!!!


16 posted on 10/10/2012 10:05:54 PM PDT by DustyMoment (Congress - another name for white collar criminals!!)
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To: DustyMoment

“Affirmative action isn’t going anywhere.”

It has already been “demoted” from a sole qualifier to one of many to determine admissions; it faces additional problems because blacks don’t like the current form (which still favors white women as “victims”) and because Hispanics outnumber blacks (and have since 2000). Too many loopholes to simply avoid unqualified blacks entirely...


17 posted on 10/10/2012 10:11:22 PM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic war against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: markomalley

Good! It’s unconstitutional as heck!


18 posted on 10/10/2012 10:41:37 PM PDT by vpintheak (Occupy your Brain!)
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To: JRandomFreeper

:O( Ronald Reagan....OUCH just keep on keeping me honest....GG


19 posted on 10/10/2012 10:52:16 PM PDT by goat granny
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To: goat granny
Only if you do the same for me.

/johnny

20 posted on 10/10/2012 10:55:21 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Jane Long; JRandomFreeper

thx, I think your right, since Jrandomfreeper told me to try again. Can I blame it on my age? Getting old must be good for something..


21 posted on 10/10/2012 10:56:06 PM PDT by goat granny
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To: JRandomFreeper
...Only if you do the same for me......

Thats a deal...OK...:O)

22 posted on 10/10/2012 10:59:11 PM PDT by goat granny
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To: markomalley

As the saying goes: Hell is paved with good intentions.


23 posted on 10/10/2012 10:59:50 PM PDT by monocle
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To: goat granny
The only thing getting old is good for is an excuse for step farting and saying whatever you want to say, regardless of which in-laws are in the house.

Which isn't a bad trade off, now that I think on it. ;)

/johnny

24 posted on 10/10/2012 11:02:42 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: GeronL

Yep, sharp questioning with forked tongues.


25 posted on 10/11/2012 4:15:08 AM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: markomalley
Among the liberal justices who looked more favorably on the Texas admissions system was Justice Sonia Sotomayor. She told Bert Rein, Fisher’s Washington-based lawyer, that he was looking to “gut” the nine-year-old decision.

Once again, the wise Latina proves she isn't fit to be seated on the SC.

26 posted on 10/11/2012 4:33:28 AM PDT by liberalh8ter (If Barack has a memory like a steel trap, why can't he remember what the Constitution says?)
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To: kearnyirish2

Our largely accidental, and mostly unwanted policy of unending mass immigration is what created the demographic nightmare. Things like affirmative action/racial preferences are an inevitable result of mass immigration-driven demographic turmoil, not a cause.

It’s a disgrace that the now massive collision between affirmative action and immigration policy gets almost no attention at all. That the media ignores it is a shame, but hardly surprising. That the GOP ignores it is also not surprising considering their cowardice on both issues, but it is infuriating nonetheless. Over 30% of the population is eligible for some sort of racial preference, and if current demographic trends continue, then it will be over half the nation by 2050. This is insane! And if Congress or the Courts won’t end it, then it will never end, as groups that benefit are not going to just willingly give up preferences.

Preferences should be abolished, but what really needs to happen is a drastic reduction in immigration. Like libertarians suffering from the delusion that the welfare state can be ended while mass immigration continues, it is similarly crazy to think racial preferences are going anywhere so long as we continue to import millions of future beneficiaries.


27 posted on 10/11/2012 9:29:19 AM PDT by Aetius
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To: kearnyirish2
It has already been “demoted” from a sole qualifier to one of many to determine admissions

You're starting with a false premise. Afirmative Action was never a sole qualifier for admission to a given university. It was always "one of many" determinants, but one that held greater weight than academic achievement, etc.

The problem we have is one of perception. In many states (including Texas from which this challenge emanates) whites are now statiscally minorities. However, the perception remains that whites are the dominant race that still discriminate againt minorities. Despite the fact that there is no data to support the perception, liberals cannot allow whites to benefit from programs that were created to benefit the "minorities".

For these reasons, I believe that CJ "John the Backstabber" Roberts will side with the liberals on the Supreme Court to ensure that Affirmative Action is with us for generations to come. Remember, liberals always live in the past and the past is where all of the preceived injury occurred. Therefore, we must control the present and the future from the past.

28 posted on 10/11/2012 10:51:05 AM PDT by DustyMoment (Congress - another name for white collar criminals!!)
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To: JRandomFreeper

:O) I have never heard of step farting before, but have heard people say.......glad there was no lumps in that...GG


29 posted on 10/11/2012 1:51:13 PM PDT by goat granny
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To: Aetius

The mass immigration is caused by the low birthrate, which is caused by the fact that people don’t feel secure enough to raise families (affirmative action being one of many factors that come into play there).

Without mass immigration you would have dead cities, empty schools, etc. I don’t want the immigration (at least the illegal immigration), but that’s why they are here.


30 posted on 10/11/2012 2:27:47 PM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic war against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: DustyMoment

“You’re starting with a false premise.”

I’ve been in a state school with minorities that could barely read; it was the ONLY reason they were there. Connecticut had a firemen’s lieutenants exam thrown out because not enough blacks acored high enough - it was plainly worded as such.

It is still the sole qualifier in many areas.


31 posted on 10/11/2012 2:30:39 PM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic war against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: markomalley; Liz; AT7Saluki
The court heard arguments in a challenge to the program from a white Texan who contends she was discriminated against when the university did not offer her a spot in 2008.

Here we go.

32 posted on 10/11/2012 5:53:25 PM PDT by Libloather (The epitome of civility.)
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To: Libloather; Condor51; AuntB; Tennessee Nana; La Lydia; TADSLOS; sickoflibs; 2ndDivisionVet; ...

As Ann Coulter famously said: why are latinos getting “civil rights?”

America’s Civil Rights laws are intended to redress Black Americans’ grievances over years of harshness.

What did we ever do to immigrants? They broke our laws coming over the border from the Third World.

What “grievances” do these latino lawbreakers have that they demand be redressed under US civil rights laws?


33 posted on 10/12/2012 8:30:06 AM PDT by Liz ("Come quickly, I'm tasting the stars." Dom Perignon)
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To: Liz

It’s time to end it for blacks. When the president of the whole country is in your ethnic group, you’ve arrived. You’re no longer downtrodden, it’s done and over.


34 posted on 10/12/2012 8:36:28 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You cannot invade the mainland United States. There would be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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To: Liz

Social Justice, like Sharia law, only works when our Constitution is stomped on.


35 posted on 10/12/2012 11:10:47 AM PDT by TADSLOS (Conservatism didn't magically show up in Romney's heart in 2012. You can't force what isn't in you.)
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To: TADSLOS
Social Justice, like Sharia law, only works when our Constitution is stomped on.

Wowser---another memorable, eminently quoteable "Tadism."

36 posted on 10/12/2012 1:24:04 PM PDT by Liz ("Come quickly, I'm tasting the stars." Dom Perignon)
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