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Lamb to the slaughter
Foreign Policy ^ | Wednesday, October 10, 2012 - 3:59 PM | Josh Rogin

Posted on 10/10/2012 9:56:15 PM PDT by Hunton Peck

In an often heated congressional hearing Wednesday, lawmakers and witnesses alike pointed to State Department official Charlene Lamb as the person most directly responsible for rejecting multiple requests for increased security at the U.S. diplomatic missions in Libya prior to the Sept. 11 attack.

House Oversight Committee Chairman Darrell Issa (R-CA) excoriated the State Department for rejecting requests from the U.S. Embassy in Libya for an extension of temporary security forces that were withdrawn in the months prior to the attack that killed Amb. Chris Stevens and three other Americans.

In a dramatic moment at the hearing, Issa released unclassified cables from March and July that the State Department had refused to release, detailing those requests.

One cable, written by then Amb. Gene Cretz, noted that three Mobile Security Detachments [MSD], consisting of 18 personnel, and the Site Security Team [SST], consisting of 16 personnel, were about to leave their temporary assignments. He said that the Libya mission needed both an extension of those forces and an increase in the number of permanent security officials in Libya.

The SST is a team of U.S. military personnel that was deployed to assist the embassy staff on a temporary basis for 60 days and then extended for another 60 days, but not extended for a third 60-day tour.

During the hearing, the top regional security officer in Libya over the summer, Eric Nordstrom, and Lt. Col. Andrew Wood, a Utah National Guardsman who was leading a security team in Libya until August, placed the blame squarely on Lamb, the deputy assistant secretary of state for international programs, whom they said was the official who denied those requests.

"All of us at post were in sync that we wanted these resources," Nordstrom testified, adding that Lamb had directly told him over the phone...

(Excerpt) Read more at thecable.foreignpolicy.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 201203; 201207; 201208; 20120911; 20121010; 911ii; andrewwood; benghazi; benghazicoverup; benghazisecurity; cables; charlenelamb; coverup; cretz; diplomaticsecurity; ericnordstrom; genecretz; issa; lamb; libya; msd; nordstrom; obama; sst; statedept; wood

1 posted on 10/10/2012 9:56:20 PM PDT by Hunton Peck
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To: Hunton Peck
State dept. issued death sentence for middle east ambassadors. A platoon of Marines could of solved the problem, but our sos and prez couldn't offend their muslim comrades.
2 posted on 10/10/2012 10:06:16 PM PDT by factoryrat (We are the producers, the creators. Grow it, mine it, build it.)
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To: Hunton Peck

Wow. Looks like twin brothers separated by birth.


3 posted on 10/10/2012 10:26:41 PM PDT by PA Engineer (Liberate America from the Occupation Media.)
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To: penelopesire

ping to article -— it found a thread ;-)


4 posted on 10/10/2012 10:31:33 PM PDT by thouworm (.)
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To: PA Engineer

I don’t even want to think about what that makes the guy behind Kennedy’s left shoulder...


5 posted on 10/10/2012 10:34:34 PM PDT by Hunton Peck ("Blasphemy" is to Islam as "swiftboating" is to Democrats: The speaking of truth to liars.)
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To: factoryrat

Pretty much like thinking that a high school football team could perform as well as the Green Bay Packers.


6 posted on 10/10/2012 10:38:54 PM PDT by RobbyS (Christus rex.)
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To: Hunton Peck

Diaper change?


7 posted on 10/10/2012 10:58:54 PM PDT by PA Engineer (Liberate America from the Occupation Media.)
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To: Hunton Peck
This leads right to the top, just like Watergate.


8 posted on 10/10/2012 11:43:10 PM PDT by Bon mots (Abu Ghraib: 47 Times on the front page of the NY Times | Benghazi: 2 Times)
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To: factoryrat

Ms Lamb stated : “ “We had the correct number of assets in Benghazi on the night of 9/11,”

Obviously , Ms Lamb isnt aware that Muslims remember anniversaries ( 9/11/01 )
The fact is that there was one security officer.
If she was concerned with political cost , she might even have armed the officer with real ammo, or as directed by Secty. of State Clinton , only a weapon with no ammo (just for show ).
She released the 16 member security crew prior to the attack , and released the DC-6 which could have been used for emergency evacuation .
It seems that there were four sacrificial lambs ( the victims) , and another lamb thrown under the bus ( Ms. Lamb, herself )


9 posted on 10/11/2012 12:14:27 AM PDT by Tilted Irish Kilt (Islam is a religion AND a political system. There is no separation of church and state in Islam)
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To: Tilted Irish Kilt

And , the Commander-in-Chief slept

After all , we have priorities , and the priorities are funding in Los Vegas , and a re-coronation .


10 posted on 10/11/2012 12:17:31 AM PDT by Tilted Irish Kilt (Islam is a religion AND a political system. There is no separation of church and state in Islam)
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To: Tilted Irish Kilt
Lamb was a one-woman State Department death panel

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11 posted on 10/11/2012 1:49:51 AM PDT by Elle Bee
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To: Hunton Peck

I listened to C-Span while driving yesterday. These two sounded merely mouthed. This is the first image I have seen of them. It’s nice to know that my imagination is still pretty sharp...although she looks more useless than she sounded.

I loved the part when one of the Reps asked these two if they had ever been on the ground in North Africa—and they hadn’t. Typical bureaucrats. They could be from any colonial foreign office throughout the ages.


12 posted on 10/11/2012 2:00:43 AM PDT by Vermont Lt (MIf you are a white conservative, you MUST be a racist. ;-))
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To: Hunton Peck

Horse turds like the Lamb will be making your healthcare decisions.


13 posted on 10/11/2012 3:39:39 AM PDT by Joe Boucher ((FUBO))
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To: Vermont Lt

The State Dept position was that they needed to transition away from military security assets to State Dept assets—and by that they meant poorly trained, unreliable local contract personnel who ended up abandoning the consulate. Lamb said they were using a “model” for the security arrangements that had worked elsewhere. LTC Wood subsequently said he felt as though a “cookie cutter” security plan was being foisted upon them, and that the realities on the ground were being disregarded. Lamb and Kennedy obviously had no clue, the whole hearing, that they had done anything wrong. They had followed the model. They adhered to protocol. In their words, “nothing” could have prevented that attack. They totally discounted the deterrence effect a well-armed, well-manned security detail can provide. To them it was just a matter of numbers, even if that meant replacing highly trained, highly skilled military personnel with marginally trained and unreliable local contract employees. By the way, the Yemeni in charge of US embassy security in Yemen was killed today.


14 posted on 10/11/2012 4:00:51 AM PDT by binreadin
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To: Joe Boucher
As opposed to USA trained MDs. No provision for more medical facilities and staffers, just IRS agents to squeeze the sick twisted unwashed peeps.
15 posted on 10/11/2012 4:02:19 AM PDT by carumba (The secret of life is honesty and fair dealing. If you can fake that, you've got it made. Groucho)
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To: Hunton Peck

These murders were PLANNED by Obama and the State Dept.

Planned.

Before the Fact.

Treason.


16 posted on 10/11/2012 4:03:48 AM PDT by Diogenesis (Vi veri veniversum vivus vici)
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To: Bon mots
Obama informed of attack - went to bed

I would add to this:

"Obama informed of attack, went to bed, was well rested for campaign appearance the next day"

17 posted on 10/11/2012 4:10:22 AM PDT by Fresh Wind ('People have got to know whether or not their president is a crook.' Richard M. Nixon)
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To: Hunton Peck

Newman!


18 posted on 10/11/2012 5:07:26 AM PDT by TangoLimaSierra (To the left the truth looks like Right-Wing extremism.)
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To: factoryrat

Interestingly, the question of politics was asked and the answer given....... I swear on a stack of Bibles that there was no political influence to the decision. It was made on the basis of State Dept rules and formulas. (my words but close to the testimony from Kennedy I believe)

What came out loud and clear was that REMF’s overruled the people in the field based on calculations lacking reality as a variable.


19 posted on 10/11/2012 5:22:55 AM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... Present failure and impending death yield irrational action))
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To: Hunton Peck

My guess is that in the end it was Hillary who was responsible for the lack of security and probably not because of any sinister conspiracy but simple incompetence.


20 posted on 10/11/2012 6:34:14 AM PDT by bkepley
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To: factoryrat

I believe you ar right about the Marines. If those terrorists arrived at the US Consulate and found it was guarded by a contingent of Marines they would have turned around and ran away.


21 posted on 10/11/2012 6:58:30 AM PDT by ops33 (Senior Master Sergeant, USAF (Retired))
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To: Hunton Peck

bump in the road


22 posted on 10/16/2012 3:18:12 PM PDT by BerryDingle (I know how to deal with communists, I still wear their scars on my back from Hollywood-Ronald Reagan)
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To: Fresh Wind

If you listen to Hillary’s interview where she takes the blame by passing it off to the State Department Security Forces, you’ll hear her say, “...this went on for a long time, hours...”

So this is going on, Lamb is listening in in real time, and Hillary and Obama get no notification whatsoever?

If Hillary was notified, did she notify Obama?

He’s out screwing around all day, and then goes to bed. At what point in there is he brought up to speed that his Ambassador to Libya is being killed?

This guy and his minions are just too cool for school.

Unfortunately for them, they are unraveling.


23 posted on 10/16/2012 3:20:57 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (We should ignore the absurd peripheral, and focus on the absurd Obama. People died. He lied!)
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To: bkepley

IMO, it goes all the way to the top.

If you listen closely, Hillary makes the case the State Department Security Service makes all decisions about security.

She doesn’t even admit having a hand in any of it.

What she wants us to believe, is that our Ambassador couldn’t pick up the phone and contact her if he was seriously concerned with his own security.

I don’t believe that. I don’t believe Obama had no idea what was going on either.

None of them gave a damn. They thought Al Qaeda was finished, and didn’t want anyone to think the U. S. didn’t trust them all the way.

Our Ambassador and his staff died, and they lied.


24 posted on 10/16/2012 3:25:08 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (We should ignore the absurd peripheral, and focus on the absurd Obama. People died. He lied!)
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To: Hunton Peck
"I don’t even want to think about what that makes the guy behind Kennedy’s left shoulder..."

"Dazed and Confused"

25 posted on 10/19/2012 7:04:48 PM PDT by hummingbird (Lather, Rinse........BUT DO NOT REPEAT - REPEAT IS A WASTE - A SCAM!)
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To: Tilted Irish Kilt
"Ms Lamb stated : “ “We had the correct number of assets in Benghazi on the night of 9/11,”

Well, Ms. Lamb, apparently not.

26 posted on 10/19/2012 7:07:49 PM PDT by hummingbird (Lather, Rinse........BUT DO NOT REPEAT - REPEAT IS A WASTE - A SCAM!)
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To: Tilted Irish Kilt

State Department is the creepists of the politically correct creeps. When we were in the cold war, they adored the communists. Our enemy is the State Department’s best friend. Peace, peace, peace! The heck with security. Let Americans die for peace. Same with Israel.


27 posted on 10/19/2012 7:10:47 PM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: TangoLimaSierra
"Newman!"

"Jerry..."

HA, HA, HA!

28 posted on 10/19/2012 7:14:25 PM PDT by hummingbird (Lather, Rinse........BUT DO NOT REPEAT - REPEAT IS A WASTE - A SCAM!)
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