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To: taildragger
MI went 57-41 for Obama in 2008. He won by 825,000 votes.

What was said was Romney is ahead in Oakland, Macomb ( home of the "Reagan Democrats" and 2 points ahead in Wayne County.

In 2008

Oakland -- 56%-42% for Obama 96,000 vote margin.

Macomb -- 53%-45% for Obama 36,000 vote margin

Wayne -- 74%-25% for Obama 440,000 vote margin

I have a hard time believing that Romney is ahead in Wayne. If he is, it is all over.

11 posted on 10/11/2012 5:58:42 AM PDT by kabar
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To: kabar

2008 was a special case of the first “black” president which really shook things up. 2004 was a much closer election.


14 posted on 10/11/2012 6:03:50 AM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: kabar

Really. But, as strange as it seems, we’re seeing something like that in Cuyahoga (Cleveland), where Dems are down 60,000 votes from 08. However, I’ll believe this one when I see it.


15 posted on 10/11/2012 6:03:55 AM PDT by LS ("Castles Made of Sand, Fall in the Sea . . . Eventually (Hendrix))
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To: kabar
I have a hard time believing that Romney is ahead in Wayne. If he is, it is all over.

Imagine my shock seeing their green pie charts at the crack of dawn saying he is ahead by 2% their... Holy Wipeout Batman....

That is why I posted I what I saw this morning, are we looking at a route that will have Dem's reaching for the Xanax? Their are posters here that believe "Da One" will not break 42% and the 1 or 2 percent for goofball candidates leaves us with a 56-57% Romney win. It is movement like this in MI that could make this a reality IMHO....

16 posted on 10/11/2012 6:06:05 AM PDT by taildragger (( Fubarward Obama 2012, think about it :-) ))
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To: kabar

I think the question is: will the dem base show up? I just don’t see the Obama signs or bumper stickers, anywhere (I’m in Macomb Co.). I’ll be going to a UofM football game this weekend in Ann Arbor...I’ll be paying attention to this.


23 posted on 10/11/2012 6:29:22 AM PDT by fuzzylogic (welfare state = sharing consequences of poor moral choices among everybody)
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To: kabar
That was with McCain pulling out. 2004 and to a lesser extent 2000 was closer.

In 2000: (Gore 51-47, winning by 217,000 votes)
Oakland - 49-48 for Gore, 7,000 vote margin
Macomb - 50-47 for Gore, 8,000 vote margin
Wayne - 69-29 for Gore, 307,000 vote margin
Washtenaw - 60-36 for Gore, 34,000 vote margin
Livingston - 59-38 for Bush, 16,000 vote margin
Monroe - 51-47 for Gore, 2,500 vote margin
2004 (Kerry won 51-48, winning by 165,000 votes)

Oakland - 50-49 for Kerry, 3,000 vote margin
Macomb - 50-49 for Bush, 6,000 vote margin
Wayne - 69-30 for Kerry, 343,000 vote margin
Washtenaw - 64-36 for Kerry, 48,000 vote margin
Livingston - 63-36 for Bush, 25,000 vote margin
Monroe - 51-49 for Bush, 1,400 vote margin

24 posted on 10/11/2012 6:30:09 AM PDT by Darren McCarty (Holding my nose one more time to get rid of Eric Holder)
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To: kabar

I live in Wayne co and I can tell you that in my neighborhood the Obama signs were all over the place in 2008. Right now I have counted 2 for Obama and 10 for Romney. I actually have been seeing about 2 new Romney/Ryan signes added each day.

That said, there are a couple of extra “Yes on Prop 2” signs that tell me that those voters will go Dem. I get the feeling that the Dem voters are ashamed and will be depressed, except for the union goons on prop 2. My hope is that the proposals don’t bring them out in strength!


35 posted on 10/11/2012 7:55:49 AM PDT by CSM (Keeper of the Dave Ramsey Ping list. FReepmail me if you want your beeber stuned.)
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