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School Orders Cross Removed From Football Helmets
foxnews.com ^ | 10/10/12 | Todd Starnes

Posted on 10/11/2012 5:48:18 AM PDT by onlylewis

Wisconsin school district has ordered a joint public-private school football team to change its logo – in the middle of the season — after a lone parent said the inclusion of a bishop’s hat and cross was a violation of the U.S. Constitution.

Martin Lexmond, superintendent of the Shorewood School District, told Fox News that he made the decision to remove the logos after consulting with the school board.

“It just didn’t occur to anybody that there might be questions about it,” he said. “A parent last week raised the question asking if this was a violation of separation of church and state.”

The school district has a unique partnership with a Messmer, private Roman Catholic high school. In 2000 the two small schools joined forces to create a football co-op.

Bob Smith, president of the Catholic school, told WTMJ that he was “not happy” about the decision and said it “is hurtful for the kids.”

“It’s going to be hurtful for the kid who designed the logo..it’s going to be hurtful for the team,” he told the radio station.

(Excerpt) Read more at radio.foxnews.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Wisconsin
KEYWORDS: church; constitution; cross; logo; purge; schoolboard; state
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Stand up for your beliefs or bow to pressure? That's the teachable moment!
1 posted on 10/11/2012 5:48:27 AM PDT by onlylewis
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To: onlylewis

Diversity is our strength!

Unless it has anything to do with Christ...


2 posted on 10/11/2012 5:50:49 AM PDT by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - they want to die for islam and we want to kill them)
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To: onlylewis

How long before CHESS is banned ?


3 posted on 10/11/2012 5:51:51 AM PDT by Roccus
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To: onlylewis

NAME THE OFFENDED PARENT!...way too often ACLU types use anonymity to push their agenda. A phone call?


4 posted on 10/11/2012 5:53:30 AM PDT by Doogle ((USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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To: Roccus

When will they ban or come up with a different design for the letter “t” since it kind of resembles a cross?


5 posted on 10/11/2012 5:53:30 AM PDT by rfreedom4u (I have a copy of the Constitution! And I'm not afraid to use it!)
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To: onlylewis

I’ll bet the complaint was filed anonomously (can’t read article behind firewall).

I demand that the students face their accusor. Let the person publicly come forward and present his/her case as to just how and why she is offended.


6 posted on 10/11/2012 5:53:56 AM PDT by Obadiah (The corrupt MSM is the enemy of the American people.)
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To: onlylewis; Hunton Peck; Diana in Wisconsin; P from Sheb; Shady; DonkeyBonker; Wisconsinlady; JPG; ..

Separation of church and state football flap in Shorewood

Freep Mail me if you want on, or off, this wisconsin interest ping list.


7 posted on 10/11/2012 5:54:18 AM PDT by afraidfortherepublic (Joe Biden is reported to be seeking asylum in a foreign country so he does not have to debate Ryan.)
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To: onlylewis
the inclusion of a bishop’s hat and cross was a violation of the U.S. Constitution.

Bull Puckey.
8 posted on 10/11/2012 5:54:23 AM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: onlylewis

The War on Stupid takes another turn - downward.


9 posted on 10/11/2012 5:55:00 AM PDT by RexBeach (Mr. Obama Loves To Spend My $$$$$$$$$$$$)
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To: onlylewis

Keep the cross. Remove the parent.


10 posted on 10/11/2012 5:56:22 AM PDT by Requiem for Truth (I. Am. So. Sick. Of. This. Anti. Christian. B.S.)
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To: onlylewis

BS...Stop giving in to thes idiots.


11 posted on 10/11/2012 5:56:47 AM PDT by Sacajaweau (r)
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To: onlylewis

To many liberals in high positions


12 posted on 10/11/2012 5:59:19 AM PDT by rxtn41
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To: onlylewis

Anyone who can look at American government, local, state or federal, and see an endorsement of Christianity in anything it does probably sees beauty in islam.


13 posted on 10/11/2012 6:00:31 AM PDT by muir_redwoods (Hopey changey low emission unicorns and a crap sandwich)
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To: onlylewis

FREEP TIME...

take the poll....it will ask you to register, but you don’t have to to poll...

http://shorewood.patch.com/articles/crucifix-in-messwood-logo-prompts-school-to-strip-it-from-helmets


14 posted on 10/11/2012 6:02:01 AM PDT by Doogle ((USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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To: onlylewis

They need to keep the Cross and get rid of taxpayer supported football. Under the concept of seperation of academia and sports.

Let the players join the debate team, or the chess team, or the physics team.

Otherwise, if ya wanna play (ball) ya gotta pay. Let the local “sports association” fund the activity.


15 posted on 10/11/2012 6:03:22 AM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves" Month)
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To: onlylewis

Everyone needs to comply so the one bigot doesn’t sue.


16 posted on 10/11/2012 6:04:16 AM PDT by BinaryBoy (I'm anti-socialism because I'm anti-slavery.)
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To: onlylewis

A logo on a helmet constitutes Congress establishing a national religion.

Of course it does.

The War on Christianity continues.


17 posted on 10/11/2012 6:04:36 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If you really want to annoy someone, point out something obvious that they are trying hard to ignore)
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To: Doogle

Yes
14 (33%)
No
28 (66%)

Total votes: 42


18 posted on 10/11/2012 6:04:40 AM PDT by bmwcyle (Corollary - Electing the same person over and over and expecting a different outcome is insanity)
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To: onlylewis

Bob Smith, president of the Catholic school, told WTMJ that he was “not happy” about the decision and said it “is hurtful for the kids.”

...and like every other Catholic “leader” will not do a damn thing about because he does not want to “upset” things.

Let the kids decorate their own helmets like they do when giving out stickers for touchdowns and hard hits. Or just keep giving in.


19 posted on 10/11/2012 6:04:40 AM PDT by icwhatudo (Low taxes and less spending in Sodom and Gomorrah is not my idea of a conservative victory)
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To: onlylewis

People who object to dog racing, or gambling, could be equally offended by the inclusion of the greyhound. If you look lng and hard enough you can always find somehing to be offensive. The official who proclaimed, "It is clearly a Christian cross!" offends me.

20 posted on 10/11/2012 6:07:22 AM PDT by afraidfortherepublic (Joe Biden is reported to be seeking asylum in a foreign country so he does not have to debate Ryan.)
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To: onlylewis

Public-Private Partnerships are always a bad idea


21 posted on 10/11/2012 6:08:13 AM PDT by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: rxtn41

The REAL problem is a legal system that can cause a school district to spend hundreds of thousands of dollars defending themselves from this nonsense. Even if in the end they prevail.

We desperately need LOSER PAYS in our tort system.


22 posted on 10/11/2012 6:08:56 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: onlylewis

Clinton (of course) red devils of South Carolina. Clinton High School Football Mascot: Red Devils Coach: Scott King Address: 800 N Adair St, Clinton, SC 29325

23 posted on 10/11/2012 6:08:56 AM PDT by icwhatudo (Low taxes and less spending in Sodom and Gomorrah is not my idea of a conservative victory)
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To: Doogle

Heckler’s Veto


24 posted on 10/11/2012 6:09:20 AM PDT by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: onlylewis

I find “Education Administrators” are often the most narrow-minded, rigid people I have met.

Its because they are basically bureaucrats.


25 posted on 10/11/2012 6:09:20 AM PDT by PGR88
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To: onlylewis

It is NOT contrary to the Constitution. They should take it to the Supremes.


26 posted on 10/11/2012 6:09:26 AM PDT by bboop (does not suffer fools gladly)
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To: icwhatudo

Huntington Public Schools • 50 Tower Street • Huntington Station • New York • 11746

27 posted on 10/11/2012 6:11:35 AM PDT by icwhatudo (Low taxes and less spending in Sodom and Gomorrah is not my idea of a conservative victory)
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To: onlylewis

Players should attend games with a cross magic-markered on their forehead.


28 posted on 10/11/2012 6:13:18 AM PDT by moovova (Obama was Swiftboated...er... Big-Birded by Romney.)
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To: onlylewis

I’m getting very sick of this sh*t!


29 posted on 10/11/2012 6:13:32 AM PDT by szweig (HYHEY!! (Have You Had Enough Yet))
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To: ROCKLOBSTER
The Chess Team? See post #3. Meanwhile up here in the province of Ontario our license plate has a very small cross whose days may be numbered. See if you can spot it.


30 posted on 10/11/2012 6:14:38 AM PDT by xp38
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To: icwhatudo

School type:Public, high school, Castlewood High School • 304 Blue Devil Circle, Castlewood, Virginia 24224 • Phone: 276-762-9449

31 posted on 10/11/2012 6:15:30 AM PDT by icwhatudo (Low taxes and less spending in Sodom and Gomorrah is not my idea of a conservative victory)
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To: onlylewis
Where in the constitution does it state a separation of church in state?

It doesn't.

This notion is based on a letter from Thomas Jefferson.

32 posted on 10/11/2012 6:15:52 AM PDT by Focault's Pendulum (Romney has run a business, an Olympics, and a state. Obama has never run anything but his mouth.)
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To: cripplecreek

We have come a long way (in the wrong direction, I believe) from the simple language: “Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion...” (never mind the “Nor prohibiting the free exercise thereof” part).

No act by Congress
No law passed
No establishment of religion

Other than that, I can see the violation./sarc


33 posted on 10/11/2012 6:16:11 AM PDT by NCLaw441
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To: NCLaw441

No act by Congress
No law passed
No establishment of religion

yup


34 posted on 10/11/2012 6:17:14 AM PDT by samtheman (Obama. Mugabe. Chavez. (Obamugavez))
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To: onlylewis

Oh, for shit’s sake, Shorewood, GROW UP!


35 posted on 10/11/2012 6:19:13 AM PDT by NRA1995 (I'll cling to my religion, cigars and guns till they're pried from my cold dead fingers!)
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To: icwhatudo

The Druid Hills Red Devils

Druid Hills High School Football Mascot: Red Devils Coach: Kip Hall Address: 1798 Haygood Dr NE, Atlanta, GA 30307

36 posted on 10/11/2012 6:19:20 AM PDT by icwhatudo (Low taxes and less spending in Sodom and Gomorrah is not my idea of a conservative victory)
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To: onlylewis

We were guaranteed, “Freedom of Religion” NOT “Freedom FROM Religion” but the smarmy lawyers of ACLU ilk have distorted that guarantee such that it is now a weapon against us and WE ALLOWED IT TO HAPPEN.

The Tree of Liberty is dying and needs a lot of fertilizer.


37 posted on 10/11/2012 6:23:04 AM PDT by Wurlitzer (Nothing says "ignorance" like Islam!)
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To: icwhatudo

Contact Us 14240 Achievement Drive Culpeper, VA 22701 540.825.8310 fax 540.829.6615

38 posted on 10/11/2012 6:23:21 AM PDT by icwhatudo (Low taxes and less spending in Sodom and Gomorrah is not my idea of a conservative victory)
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To: Doogle

I’ll go out on a limb a wager this lone wolf parent doesn’t even have ties to this school. Probably just some malcontent stirring up trouble. Why should the MAJORITY constantly be forced into giving in to the MINORITY? I’d tell this prick the cross stays and if you don;t like it, pound sand. Further, if the cross truly offends you, then you are forbidden to use the letter “t” in all of your writings. The “T” looks like a cross so if the cross offends you, stop using the letter “t”.


39 posted on 10/11/2012 6:24:35 AM PDT by NCC-1701 (The LEFT's intolerance of the RIGHT is intolerable.)
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To: onlylewis

Tyranny by the individual against the majority. The proper response by the school to this “parent” should have been GFY.


40 posted on 10/11/2012 6:25:34 AM PDT by Brooklyn Attitude (We won't stand for biased umps fixing a ball game but we allow a biased media to fix elections.)
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To: icwhatudo

Wickliffe High School Mascot: Blue Devils Type: Co-Ed / Public AD CAROL CROCKETT Address: 2255 Rockefeller Rd, Wickliffe, OH 44092 Phone: (440) 944-0800 Fax: (440) 943-7705

41 posted on 10/11/2012 6:26:53 AM PDT by icwhatudo (Low taxes and less spending in Sodom and Gomorrah is not my idea of a conservative victory)
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To: onlylewis

The term “just say no” is becoming more and more relevant.

Sooner or later, we’re going to have to either confront these folks verbally....or physically.

Don’t doubt me.


42 posted on 10/11/2012 6:27:39 AM PDT by Da Coyote
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To: icwhatudo

Holton High School Football Mascot: Red Devils Team: Varsity 12-13 Colors: Red, White Coach: Mark English Address: 6477 Syers Rd., Holton, MI 49425

43 posted on 10/11/2012 6:30:33 AM PDT by icwhatudo (Low taxes and less spending in Sodom and Gomorrah is not my idea of a conservative victory)
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To: onlylewis

We live in the era of the tyranny of the stupid or venal “lone parent”.

One misguided parent who cannot, or will not, understand the clearly written words in the first ammendment of the Bill of Rights, rules over the school board, the wishes of the community and common sense.

The school board backed down too quickly to the wishes of one person. What about the wishes of the football team, the student body, the rest of the community?


44 posted on 10/11/2012 6:32:46 AM PDT by Iron Munro (Obamaspeak: An army of pompous phrases marching across the landscape in search of an idea.)
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To: Doogle

The perpetually offended are perpetually offended!!!


45 posted on 10/11/2012 6:33:25 AM PDT by onlylewis (libs want a two class system, one rich one poor)
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To: onlylewis

One parent is enough to make all this happen

...is that a good thing or a bad thing?


46 posted on 10/11/2012 6:35:16 AM PDT by stuartcr ("When silence speaks, it speaks only to those that have already decided what they want to hear.")
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To: moovova

No, get the Crosses shaved on to their heads.


47 posted on 10/11/2012 6:35:38 AM PDT by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: onlylewis

When the beating of your heart, echoes the beating of the drums...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lYizXBQ5EQA&feature=youtube_gdata_player


48 posted on 10/11/2012 6:36:05 AM PDT by Requiem for Truth (I. Am. So. Sick. Of. This. Anti. Christian. B.S.)
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To: onlylewis

so this one parent is a judge for everyone? fight for it and make them somehow prove it.

they don’t bend over backwards when religious folks complain about immorality and junk science being taught in the govt schools.

best thing in the world would be for government to get out of every area of life that it both competes and regulates the private sector. what if microsoft or apple both competed in the markets and also regulated the market they compete in? after all isn’t this one of many problems with obamacare? and government healthcare period?


49 posted on 10/11/2012 6:36:05 AM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: stuartcr

So you send your kid to a Catholic school and complain the they are Catholic?


50 posted on 10/11/2012 6:38:47 AM PDT by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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