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26 TESTIFY AGAINST LANCE ARMSTRONG IN DOPING CASE
http://www.breitbart.com ^ | october 11 2012 | EDDIE PELLS

Posted on 10/11/2012 9:35:47 AM PDT by Para-Ord.45

Lance Armstrong said he wanted to see the names of his accusers. The U.S. Anti-Doping Agency gave him 26, including 11 ex-teammates.

About 200 pages filled with vivid details _ from the hotel rooms riders transformed into makeshift blood-transfusion centers to the way Armstrong's ex-wife rolled cortisone pills into foil and handed them out to all the cyclists.

(Excerpt) Read more at breitbart.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: lancearmstrong; sourcetitlenoturl
Go ahead, Lancebots, apologize away.
1 posted on 10/11/2012 9:35:51 AM PDT by Para-Ord.45
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To: Para-Ord.45

Until this, I thought Armstrong was being railroaded. The only way he could come out of this with a less than crappy smell now is if it was shown that all the witnesses were coerced into lying. Good luck with that.


2 posted on 10/11/2012 9:42:40 AM PDT by Ingtar (Everyone complains about the weather, but only Liberals try to legislate it.)
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To: Para-Ord.45
The report is here.
3 posted on 10/11/2012 9:47:09 AM PDT by Scoutmaster (You knew the job was dangerous when you took it)
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To: Para-Ord.45

In this country, we do not convict people on drug charges based on hearsay evidence or witnesses who all have admitted to or have been found to be drug users.


4 posted on 10/11/2012 9:47:49 AM PDT by Uncle Slayton
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To: Uncle Slayton
In this country, we do not convict people on drug charges based on hearsay evidence or witnesses who all have admitted to or have been found to be drug users.

Yes, we do.

5 posted on 10/11/2012 9:50:56 AM PDT by frithguild (You can call me Snippy the Anti-Freeper)
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To: Para-Ord.45

It sounds like they were ALL doing it and they want to focus on one guy. Let me guess the others will all get off scot-free for testifying.


6 posted on 10/11/2012 9:51:12 AM PDT by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: Uncle Slayton
"In this country, we do not convict people on drug charges based on hearsay evidence or witnesses who all have admitted to or have been found to be drug users"

Are you daft? People go to jail every day based on the testimony of fellow drug users and sellers.

7 posted on 10/11/2012 9:53:49 AM PDT by circlecity
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To: Para-Ord.45
""If you ain't cheatin', you ain't tryin'" is an old NASCAR expression. Junior Johnson had this to say about his creativity when it came to building cars:

"I loved the game. Maybe I'd have four of five new things on a car that might raise a question. But I'd always leave something that was outside of the regulations in a place where the inspectors could easily find it."

***************

The history of bike racing is replete with performance enhancement. If they can't enforce their rulz at the time, they need to get more enforceable rules.

Attempted enforcement >8 years after the fact (though all contemporaneous tests results appear to have been negative) means not enough effort is being put on current enforcement.

These folks appear to be attention whores seeking continued and increased (public) funding of their fiefdom.

8 posted on 10/11/2012 9:55:49 AM PDT by Paladin2
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To: Uncle Slayton

Ah, a Lancebot.

Most of the Lancebot Freepers have gone to ground.

Should I go back and check my posts and list their nome de plumes hoping the have the guts to try say stupid things like you just did?

Maybe 26 individuals are all lying and only Sir Lance is telling the truth/sarc off


9 posted on 10/11/2012 9:56:57 AM PDT by Para-Ord.45
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To: Para-Ord.45

Please provide evidence that Armstrong had a positive drug test.


10 posted on 10/11/2012 10:02:06 AM PDT by Uncle Slayton
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To: Uncle Slayton

Read the report.He tested +

In jurisprudence overwhelming circumstantial evidence can does and has convicted criminals.

Shame of so called “freepers”. Acting EXACTLY like obamabots who still say it was a video and their messiah can do no wrong despite the overwhelming evidence


11 posted on 10/11/2012 10:05:35 AM PDT by Para-Ord.45
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To: Ingtar

I am of the opinion that if Armstrong wants to “fix” this, he will need to file a slander / defamation lawsuit against both the organization and the individuals in the report .... and win the lawsuit.


12 posted on 10/11/2012 10:05:56 AM PDT by taxcontrol
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To: Para-Ord.45

Wow. You’re really obesessed with this. Do you have a mancrush on Lance? You’ve posted 2 very similar articles within 13 minutes, and in both you beg for someone to argue with you.


13 posted on 10/11/2012 10:06:22 AM PDT by cweese (Hook 'em Horns!!!)
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14 posted on 10/11/2012 10:07:22 AM PDT by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: Para-Ord.45

There are no positive drug tests.

And we know that most every other person who competed against Armstrong has had positive PED tests.


15 posted on 10/11/2012 10:08:52 AM PDT by Uncle Slayton
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To: GeronL

They’ve probably also had their wins vacated. Most wins in cycling get vacated in a few years. The difference between them and him is once they got caught they admitted it, he still insists it’s all lies.


16 posted on 10/11/2012 10:11:31 AM PDT by discostu (Not a part of anyone's well oiled machine.)
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To: taxcontrol

That is about the only way he comes out of this whole.


17 posted on 10/11/2012 10:14:07 AM PDT by Ingtar (Everyone complains about the weather, but only Liberals try to legislate it.)
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To: Para-Ord.45
"In October 1999, the USOC created the USADA to begin operation in October 2000. USADA's status and alleged independence from the USOC contrasts the norm in the United States in which most professional sport organizations (MLB, NFL, NBA, NHL) manage the anti-doping aspects of their sports. As a result of USADA's ongoing multi-year contracts with the USOC and the sport national governing bodies (USA Track & Field, USA Cycling, USA Swimming, US Soccer, etc.) the agency is responsible for managing the anti-doping programs including testing and results management for each sport's athletes and events throughout the year. Despite its name and status as the country's official anti doping organization, USADA is a private organization and not subject to government oversight."

The IOC is a vipers' nest of corruption. The USOC was likely only under control while Romney was in charge. Where's the auditors report on the most recent budget expenditures of these attention whores?

18 posted on 10/11/2012 10:17:20 AM PDT by Paladin2
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To: Uncle Slayton
this isn't a criminal case is it?....isn't this purely a sports organization investigation?....

I fully believe they all "do it"....but LA bucked the system and refused to admit it, which would ruin his miracle man image...

I remember that Tour race where he fell off his bike, got a nice abrasion on his leg, IIRC, fell way behind, on a HILL, and somehow, someway, he got back on and pedaled up the hill and won the race....

amazing feat, and in retrospect, very suspect....

19 posted on 10/11/2012 10:22:51 AM PDT by cherry
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To: Para-Ord.45
Well, I've never watched or paid attention to bicycle racing, but it's only now that these guys come forwards? Why wait all this time? I hear/read Armstrong is a real jerk IRL, but it just seems strange people would wait so long before accusing someone of cheating.
20 posted on 10/11/2012 10:26:41 AM PDT by jeffc (The U.S. media are our enemy)
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To: Paladin2

Indeed. What gets me is that Ben Johnson wins the 1988 100m gold tests + and subsequently gets stripped of medal and his previous medals as well. Now a few years later documents are found in the former East Germany after reunification showing virtually the entire East German olympic program was doping. Now that involved hundreds of gold medal performances over the years East Germany competed. IOC decides its all too much to strip so many medals and thus the sound of crickets.


21 posted on 10/11/2012 10:46:37 AM PDT by xp38
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To: cherry

“amazing feat, and in retrospect, very suspect....”

Is it really suspect when almost every other participant in the race is using PED’s?


22 posted on 10/11/2012 10:57:50 AM PDT by Uncle Slayton
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To: GeronL

It’s just like any other drug case, get the little fish to turn in the big fish, that’s how it’s done. Armstrong was the biggest fish.


23 posted on 10/11/2012 11:08:02 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Para-Ord.45

Hearsay, not even admissible in court. No facts to it. This is a report brought by abuse of government power by an idiot liberal that wants to use his position in government to bury Armstrong.


24 posted on 10/11/2012 11:10:06 AM PDT by CodeToad (Padme: "So this is how liberty dies... with thunderous applause.")
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To: discostu

Right, and he actually expects us to believe that, in a sport full of cheaters, he was the only honest man AND he beat all the cheaters honestly. Suuuuuuuuuuure.


25 posted on 10/11/2012 11:10:45 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Para-Ord.45

I guess your support for this liberal government employee makes you a “GovBot”, since you like that third grade term “bot”. Nice to know you support the government attacking private citizens without trial. If this liberal idiot of a government employee has evidence of a crime he needs to prosecute it, otherwise he needs to shut up and stop abuse government power to try to destroy a private citizen. So much for you being a conservative.


26 posted on 10/11/2012 11:12:27 AM PDT by CodeToad (Padme: "So this is how liberty dies... with thunderous applause.")
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To: CodeToad

9 people testifying about their DIRECT knowledge of Armstrong’s doping is not hearsay.


27 posted on 10/11/2012 11:13:01 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Boogieman
So you support Bills of Attainder: "A bill of attainder is an act of a legislature declaring a person or group of persons guilty of some crime and punishing them without privilege of a judicial trial."

United States Constitution, Article 1, Section 9: "No bill of attainder or ex post facto Law shall be passed."

So much for the Constitution and your support of the government abusing its power to slander and punish a citizen without trial.

28 posted on 10/11/2012 11:27:43 AM PDT by CodeToad (Padme: "So this is how liberty dies... with thunderous applause.")
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To: Boogieman

“is not hearsay.”

It is when it is not under oath in a court of law.


29 posted on 10/11/2012 11:29:00 AM PDT by CodeToad (Padme: "So this is how liberty dies... with thunderous applause.")
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To: CodeToad

Well, since we’re not under oath in court, everything you are saying is just hearsay, and I choose to disregard it :P


30 posted on 10/11/2012 11:53:33 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Para-Ord.45

The rumor was that he rode a Ferrari to victory over those 7 years. The rumor has proven to be true:

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/usada-lance-armstrong-paid-ferrari-more-than-dollar-1-million


31 posted on 10/11/2012 11:54:17 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: Uncle Slayton; cherry
“amazing feat, and in retrospect, very suspect....” Is it really suspect when almost every other participant in the race is using PED’s?

Well think about it for a minute.

If they were all using it, then how did he pass them all by???

32 posted on 10/11/2012 12:00:06 PM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: CodeToad

What the hell are you on about? This isn’t a criminal proceeding. The legislature isn’t punishing Armstrong. Get a grip man.


33 posted on 10/12/2012 7:32:29 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Boogieman

So then why is the government making these statemrnts of slander against a US citizen? Go ahead and explain it for us, we’ll wait.


34 posted on 10/12/2012 8:32:44 AM PDT by CodeToad (Padme: "So this is how liberty dies... with thunderous applause.")
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To: CodeToad

Slander? It’s not slander to report the findings of an investigation. That’s called reporting the findings of an investigation. Please show a little respect for the English language.


35 posted on 10/12/2012 9:34:41 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Uncle Chip

“If they were all using it, then how did he pass them all by???”

Exactly.

Either Armstrong was cheating, or they must expect us to believe he is from the planet Krypton, since he could whizz past all the cheaters with his superhuman abilities.

Still, it’s good that we have stories like this, to remind us that liberals are not the only people capable of wallowing in the muddy waters of self-delusion.


36 posted on 10/12/2012 9:39:43 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Uncle Slayton
That's right. And Armstong is about to get crushed by the evidence against him.
37 posted on 10/12/2012 9:42:47 AM PDT by Vision ("Did I not say to you that if you would believe, you would see the glory of God?" John 11:40)
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To: Uncle Slayton
You've fallen for Armstrong's biggest lie. He's had a few positive tests beginning in the early 2000s. If you're interested in Armstrong and the TdF there are fascinating new books to read.
38 posted on 10/12/2012 9:48:30 AM PDT by Vision ("Did I not say to you that if you would believe, you would see the glory of God?" John 11:40)
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To: Para-Ord.45

http://www.outsideonline.com/outdoor-adventure/biking/road-biking/My-Life-With-Lance-Armstrong.html?page=all

The bad side of Lance Armstrong. Vindictive, tries to destroy ex-teammates and those who loyally served him

http://www.bicycling.com/news/pro-cycling/5-questions-betsy-andreu

more bad and evil side of Lance


39 posted on 10/12/2012 10:02:46 AM PDT by dennisw (Government be yo mamma - Re-elect Barack Obama)
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To: dennisw

From your link:

bigmountainsmallman Mon, 2012-08-27 13:28

“Lance is a cheater. Please stop glorifying the cheater. Lance and company stole the dreams of cyclists who are honest and wouldn’t cheat. It often meant leaving the sport, which many talented and honest riders did, or racing at a lower level and making very little money despite the same sacrifices, or sticking to a cleaner part of the sport like mountain biking. The honest cyclists train just as hard as the cheaters, and some likely also have the “tactical savvy, skill, and other elusive qualities only the greatest of champions possess” they just don’t have that extra “Euro gear” that cheaters like Lance and company made necessary to compete. Oh, and honest cyclists are completely ignored by Bicycling.com while cheaters are glorified.”


40 posted on 10/12/2012 10:24:31 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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