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Washington Post Exclusive: PPP caught doing advocacy polling on race
The Washington Post ^ | October 11, 2012 | Jennifer Rubin

Posted on 10/11/2012 1:34:34 PM PDT by Southnsoul

PPP, a Democratic polling outfit, has long been viewed by suspicion by not only conservatives but by independent, credible pollsters. Now there is all the more reason to discount its “polling” as shoddy partisanship.

I spoke by phone today with Wisconsin voter Dave Summers, who lives in the Madison area. He told me, “I got a survey. I don’t normally answer these calls, but I did [this time]. I started out pretty normal — President, Senate.” However, he said it then got weirder. The automatic survey asked if he had a favorable or unfavorable impression of Sean Hannity and Tucker Carlson. He said he was greatly disturbed when the automated call then asked, “Do you believe conservative media want white people to think Barack Obama hates them?” He said, “That bugged me.”

I called Tom Jensen of PPP. He said that it was his poll. I asked whether this wasn’t a classic advocacy poll designed to get a specific answer. He demurred, “Well, we were asking a series of questions about conservative media.” He said that this call followed the posting on Drudge of the 2007 video in which then-Sen. Barack Obama talks about Hurricane Katrina and denying aid to residents. He claimed that since conservative media were trying to make an issue of this, it was important to see whether that effort (to poison the thinking of white voters, I suppose) was “successful.”

Wasn’t a question that put the conclusion in the question a leading question? “No, it wasn’t a leading question,” Jensen insisted. He then sent over the questions, which for reasons he did not explain were not released publicly.

There are no questions about liberal media or bias. To ask the question is to assume that conservative media are up to make white people fear Obama.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonpost.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2012; 2012polls; corruption; democrats; elections; pollbias; ppp
The questions that PPP did not release publicly are linked at the end of the article.
1 posted on 10/11/2012 1:34:36 PM PDT by Southnsoul
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To: Southnsoul

I thought this was from The Onion or a similar outlet... Wow, no low is too low for the ObaMaoists.


2 posted on 10/11/2012 1:47:37 PM PDT by uncommonsense (Conservatives believe what they see; Liberals see what they believe.)
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To: uncommonsense
...no low is too low...

There is no bottom, just a constant, gradual descent.

3 posted on 10/11/2012 1:55:07 PM PDT by RobinOfKingston (The instinct toward liberalism is located in the part of the brain called the rectal lobe.)
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To: Southnsoul

I am beginning to think that the Dem internal polls are so bad that they know they have lost.

That could help explain the Bengazi lie after lie after lie.

That could help explain Obama’s poor performance at the debate (he knew it was over).

That could help explain all the obvious manipulations of the employment figures, especially the last two weeks.

That could help explain their throwing everything they can at Romney in hopes that something, anything might stick — felon, tax cheat, murderer, hates poor people, hates black people, hates middle class, etc.


4 posted on 10/11/2012 2:03:26 PM PDT by TomGuy
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To: Southnsoul

“Do you have a negative or a positive view of Ann Coulter, who buys burlap sacks in bulk so she can drown kittens on a daily basis?”


5 posted on 10/11/2012 2:13:14 PM PDT by relictele
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To: TomGuy

That’s what I’m thinking.


6 posted on 10/11/2012 2:26:13 PM PDT by Southnsoul
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To: TomGuy

My thoughts form the beginning.
They know that it’s a lost cause, so they are just going thru the motions, hoping and praying that R-R will screw up somehow..................


7 posted on 10/11/2012 2:28:20 PM PDT by Red Badger (Is it just me, or is Hillary! starting to look like Benjamin Franklin?.................)
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To: uncommonsense

Virtually every comment posted is in agreement with PPP! Buncha wacky people posting comments there!


8 posted on 10/11/2012 2:35:23 PM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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To: TomGuy

The poll didn’t even ask about th Presidential or Senate election. No other point of the poll other than advocacy. I see Ds and Rs are evenly split. What kind of turnout model have the WI polls been using for the 2012 election?


9 posted on 10/11/2012 2:45:07 PM PDT by KansasGirl ("If you have a business, you didn't build that. Somebody else made that happen."--B. Hussein Obama)
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To: Southnsoul
The left never sleeps....

They come at you from every direction 24 hours a day.

10 posted on 10/11/2012 5:12:56 PM PDT by blam
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Thanks Southnsoul.


11 posted on 10/11/2012 6:45:29 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: RobinOfKingston

Whale shit in the Marianas Trench is landing on top of the Democrats & Obama.


12 posted on 10/12/2012 9:20:40 AM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: TomGuy

That could help explain all the obvious manipulations of the employment figures, especially the last two weeks.””

There is at least ONE large state that did not submit their new unemployment claims for Thursday’s figures.

There is a rumor that there are 2 such state doing so.

Has anyone found out yet which states they are & what the new claims numbers are?


13 posted on 10/12/2012 9:28:14 AM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: ridesthemiles

This group is the official pollster for the Daily Kos. And they are straight out of Chapel Hill—North Carolina’s version of Berkeley. But even so, this is shocking.


14 posted on 10/13/2012 5:35:43 PM PDT by hcmama
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To: Southnsoul
Well HOW ABOUT THAT.

Like anyone is freakin surprised.

15 posted on 10/13/2012 5:46:35 PM PDT by Lazamataz (WAAAAAAAAAHHHhhhhh.....)
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To: Southnsoul

Worse yet for the Obama supporters, this is being reported by the W.P. It’s rather interesting what the Leftist media is deeming worthy of reporting this close to the election.

If they are this willing to post an article like this, that seems to indicate they think it’s all over.

I don’t think they’d post this if they thought Obama still had a chance. They would be behind him pushing him uphill.


16 posted on 10/13/2012 5:48:00 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (We should ignore the absurd peripheral, and focus on the absurd Obama. People died. He lied!)
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To: ridesthemiles
Whale shit in the Marianas Trench is landing on top of the Democrats & Obama.

LMAO!

17 posted on 10/13/2012 5:49:10 PM PDT by glock rocks (Optimist? Pessimist? Naw, I'm an Awesomist - There's a dragon in that glass!)
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To: blam
RATS and rust, same same...
18 posted on 10/13/2012 5:51:42 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: DoughtyOne

After Soros counts the votes, it’ll be much closer.


19 posted on 10/13/2012 5:55:10 PM PDT by glock rocks (Optimist? Pessimist? Naw, I'm an Awesomist - There's a dragon in that glass!)
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To: DoughtyOne; LS
Check out PPP's Twitter feed. Last night they had the DU crowd on suicide watch. They were fearfully reporting that Friday's polling showed the race very tight. But, much to the relief of all those crying in their bong water at DU, they were happy to report that Saturday was much, much improved for Obama----it was remarkable.

Also, everyone in Ohio loved Biden's debate performance---especially the independents. This after they reported that Biden was not well received in any of their other swing state polling. But Ohio is a political oddity according to PPP.

20 posted on 10/13/2012 6:00:10 PM PDT by hcmama
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To: TomGuy
I am beginning to think that the Dem internal polls are so bad that they know they have lost. That could help explain the Bengazi lie after lie after lie.That could help explain Obama’s poor performance at the debate (he knew it was over). That could help explain all the obvious manipulations of the employment figures, especially the last two weeks. That could help explain their throwing everything they can at Romney in hopes that something, anything might stick — felon, tax cheat, murderer, hates poor people, hates black people, hates middle class, etc.

Which leads into my thoughts...

Have you noticed the Erie quiet out of Pelosi and Reid? My guess is they are out rallying the troops to obstruct, obstruct, obstruct, and are working w/ their K-Street Minions to make life miserable for Romney / Ryan pst January 20th....

Expect to see more crisis type stories from the press, especially trumped up garbage from the likes of Smuckey Chumer and Levin for starters in January and Feburary....

21 posted on 10/13/2012 6:08:13 PM PDT by taildragger (( Fubarward Obama 2012, think about it :-) ))
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To: Dr. Bogus Pachysandra

Those are the Kos Kooks weighing in. PPP is their official pollster. Didn’t little Marxsos have a mini-scandal with a previous pollster? Research 2000 or something?


22 posted on 10/13/2012 6:12:59 PM PDT by hcmama
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To: Southnsoul

These people need to check their consciences. Probably won’t happen, though.


23 posted on 10/13/2012 6:35:01 PM PDT by popdonnelly (The first priority is get Obama out of the White House.)
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To: popdonnelly

“...These people need to check their consciences....”

They’re not real people. They are diseased mental zombies. They have no conscience.


24 posted on 10/13/2012 6:50:47 PM PDT by lgjhn23
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To: blam
The left never sleeps.... They come at you from every direction 24 hours a day

Like zombies blam?

25 posted on 10/13/2012 7:09:03 PM PDT by houeto (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: Southnsoul
To ask the question is to assume that conservative media are up to make white people fear Obama.

They don't have to. I was concerned about him ever since Alan Keyes warned everybody who would listen. That whole bit about how he won his state senate seat in Illinois was pretty creepy. Add to that his Marxist childhood and his Islamic background... well, that was quite enough.

26 posted on 10/13/2012 7:10:06 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (Islam offers us choices: convert or kill, submit or die.)
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To: ridesthemiles
There is a rumor that there are 2 such state doing so.

We can assume that it would be California and New York or California and some other democRAT run hell hole.

27 posted on 10/13/2012 7:20:06 PM PDT by Ouderkirk (Democrats...the party of Slavery, Segregation, Sodomy, and Sedition)
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To: ridesthemiles; All

I would have to think it is Illinois..


28 posted on 10/13/2012 7:45:23 PM PDT by KevinDavis (And you, be ye fruitful, and multiply; bring forth abundantly in the earth, and multiply therein.)
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To: TomGuy

“I am beginning to think that the Dem internal polls are so bad that they know they have lost. That could help explain Obama’s poor performance at the debate (he knew it was over).”

I thought the same thing. He hated having to be in that debate, because he knew he was going to lose anyway, and yet here he was being forced to confront someone smarter, more knowledgeable, and more articulate than himself on live television without the hand-picked hoards of adoring admirers, without his adoring media to cover for him, and without someone to whisper all the answers in his ear.


30 posted on 10/13/2012 8:24:23 PM PDT by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: TomGuy

0bamas already preparing for move to Hawaii in January 2013
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2928126/posts


31 posted on 10/13/2012 9:01:12 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You cannot invade the mainland United States. There would be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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To: All

Bump for some perspective on the Ohio poll.


32 posted on 10/13/2012 9:12:55 PM PDT by hcmama
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To: relictele

with ann it is always a positive view....

RULES!

t


33 posted on 10/14/2012 5:16:40 AM PDT by teeman8r (Armageddon won't be pretty, but it's not like it's the end of the world.)
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To: TomGuy

If that is the case then they are working tooth and nail to get a favorable rating with dead voters this election.


34 posted on 10/14/2012 5:21:48 AM PDT by digital-olive
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To: Tzar

Well..., I think the WaPo needs to do about ten thousand such acts of contrition before I will trust it. I remember the fervor they utilized when taking Nixon down, and the lack of interest when they had the pride of the Dixie Mafia in there. Now they run cover for the pride of the Islamic Jihad.

Nah, I’m not prone to give them any awards.


35 posted on 10/14/2012 10:58:47 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (We should ignore the absurd peripheral, and focus on the absurd Obama. People died. He lied!)
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To: Southnsoul
The Dems are becoming unhinged because they are finding the race card is no longer trumps. It's been over played.

Coutler's "Mugged" was perfectly timed to explain to conservatives why they have no need to feel "white guilt". And I think not having a job is going to override racial loyalty for a huge number of blacks who truly take pride in being independent and would rather get a pay check than a welfare check.

36 posted on 10/14/2012 1:17:20 PM PDT by In Maryland (Our rights come from nature and God, not government. - Paul Ryan)
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To: RobinOfKingston

That gradual descent might turn into a lightning fast steep drop....as the Democrat desperation grows. I put nothing past this administration and the leftists that support it.

Rush said they’ve got no October surprise and nothing else to use. I wouldn’t bet on it.


37 posted on 10/15/2012 11:13:57 AM PDT by XenaLee (The only good commie is a dead commie.)
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To: Southnsoul

38 posted on 10/15/2012 7:38:43 PM PDT by Sgt_Schultze (A half-truth is a complete lie)
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