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Live Thread: Vice Presidential Debate 9:00 P.M. EDT 10/11/12 Joe Biden vs. Paul Ryan
Commission on Presidential Debates ^ | Thursday, October 11, 2012

Posted on 10/11/2012 5:10:45 PM PDT by kristinn

All debates will take place from 9:00-10:30 p.m. Eastern Time.

Vice presidential debate:
Thursday, October 11
Centre College, Danville, KY
Moderator: Martha Raddatz, Senior Foreign Affairs Correspondent, ABC News

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TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Kentucky
KEYWORDS: 2012debates; 2012veep; 2012vpdebate; angryjoe; biden; emo; live; oct11; paulryan; popcorn; standupchuck; thread; vpdebate
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To: 3Fingas
I don’t think Biden’s performance tonight is going to help team Obama.

Agree. Overall, Biden a net negative for Obama tonight. Ryan the adult, articulate, didn't take the bait to demean himself to Biden's level. Stayed focused and on task with verifiable data. Impressive and might I say Presidential. He's young, but I can see him being President someday.

1,201 posted on 10/11/2012 10:01:07 PM PDT by Art in Idaho (Conservatism is the only hope for Western Civilization.)
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To: ETL

the bride moderator has now had 3 weddings...she is currently on hubby #3 and she will turn 60 in Feb. 2013..life in the MSM is rough on those girls...


1,202 posted on 10/11/2012 10:01:36 PM PDT by haircutter (.)
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To: truthluva

Excellent. Thanks.


1,203 posted on 10/11/2012 10:02:17 PM PDT by Bradís Gramma (PRAY for this country like your life depends on it......because it DOES!)
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To: Lexinom

That’s an insult to Joe Isuzu ;)


1,204 posted on 10/11/2012 10:03:45 PM PDT by pbear8 (the Lord is my light and my salvation)
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To: VideoDoctor

The channel MOST people watch debates on; FoxNews!


1,205 posted on 10/11/2012 10:04:22 PM PDT by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America
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To: All
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1,206 posted on 10/11/2012 10:05:02 PM PDT by goron ("Folks, I can tell you I've known eight presidents, three of them intimately." --Joe Biden, 8/22/12)
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To: Aria

Smirking, laughing and telling people to ‘RELAAAAAXX’ when talking about Iran’s nuke potential.. SERIOUSLY?? WTF A F’ING MORON WOULD DO THAT? BIDEN, THAT’S WHO!


1,207 posted on 10/11/2012 10:06:13 PM PDT by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America
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To: Lmo56

...be the next Romney commercial...

Would need to be one hell of a long commercial just to fit them all in.


1,208 posted on 10/11/2012 10:06:21 PM PDT by CARDINALRULES (Tough times never last -Tough people do. DK57 -- 6-22-02)
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To: sjneuf

bfl


1,209 posted on 10/11/2012 10:07:16 PM PDT by Bradís Gramma (PRAY for this country like your life depends on it......because it DOES!)
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To: kristinn

People who fervently support B/B will think that he did well, people who fervently support R/R will think the same for their slate. Each candidate got their slates’ points out to the public.

The deciders are the uncommiteds and the persuadables.

If the debate were basically to be considered a draw on substance, it comes down to demeanor [style] - and that is where Biden lost. The majority of uncommiteds and persuadables did not like what Biden did.

In 1960, historians generally agree that Nixon won on substance in the first debate.

HOWEVER, the public declared that Kennedy “won” that debate - and it was basically on style. Kennedy was well-rested and tanned. Nixon was sick with the flu and was sweating under the bright lights of the studio.


1,210 posted on 10/11/2012 10:07:29 PM PDT by Lmo56 (If ya wanna run with the big dawgs - ya gotta learn to piss in the tall grass ...)
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To: LibsRJerks

He treated Palin the same way.What kind of wine?


1,211 posted on 10/11/2012 10:07:50 PM PDT by fatima (Free Hugs Today :))
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To: wardaddy
“this thread is only a 1200 posters run
back in the day...yes kids..i’m old...we had huge running threads of 1000s and more traffic in general
what gives?”

Jim says we need new equipment and he's waiting for John to put it in. He said he didn't know when John would do that. So, we are SOL until that happens.

1,212 posted on 10/11/2012 10:09:34 PM PDT by Marcella (Republican Conservatism is dead. PREPARE.)
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To: nutmeg

It did crash, at least at my end, so I wasn’t able to get on. Listening to the pundits, the smirk, laughter and condescending attitude may have backfired on good ole Joe! It was difficult not to get up and turn it off.


1,213 posted on 10/11/2012 10:17:20 PM PDT by StarFan
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To: StarFan

“We had no idea that they needed more security!”

- Joe Biden on Benghazi


1,214 posted on 10/11/2012 10:18:44 PM PDT by TigerClaws
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To: wardaddy; Marcella; tomkat

See this response from Jim:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2943561/posts?page=1169#1169


1,215 posted on 10/11/2012 10:20:59 PM PDT by CedarDave (Presstitutes: Journalists who refuse to ask hard questions and who report by omission or distortion)
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To: Jim Robinson

Thanks; appreciate the reply. Hope you guys solve the problem pretty soon.

Nite...


1,216 posted on 10/11/2012 10:21:51 PM PDT by CedarDave (Presstitutes: Journalists who refuse to ask hard questions and who report by omission or distortion)
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To: StarFan

I couldn’t even get here. I decided to watch the debate without benefit of FR.


1,217 posted on 10/11/2012 10:24:45 PM PDT by publana (Beware the olive branch extended by a Dem for it disguises a clenched fist.)
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To: Jim Robinson

Maybe related to exhausted OS/network stack resources.

Load balanced web-servers in front of a clustered DB server might be a good option.


1,218 posted on 10/11/2012 10:28:08 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Demoralization is a weapon of the enemy. Don't get it, don't spread it!)
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To: Jim Robinson

If Chicoms can hack into the WH system, AND channel tons of illegal contributions to Bambi, they are certainly capable of attacking any web site that opposes their Dear Puppet’s reelection.


1,219 posted on 10/11/2012 10:30:58 PM PDT by rfp1234
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To: patriciamary
hummmm bet you would feel more comfortable over at ABC posting...

by the way are you voting ROMNEY~RYAN on Nov. 6 ???

1,220 posted on 10/11/2012 10:41:51 PM PDT by haircutter (.)
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To: Salamander

I’m already sending it around. You are on top of things, thanks.


1,221 posted on 10/11/2012 10:50:21 PM PDT by Taffini ( Mr. Pippen and Mr. Waffles do not approve and neither do I)
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To: MissMagnolia; dixiechick2000

I was raised in a Walker family...my grandfather was big into it

i’ve got the land and the kids and finally took the plunge

i enjoy it more than i thought i would

some horses are inspiring..majestic..and I like riding..but i also enjoy the ground game...brushing them...just tending to them and talking to them

we had an old one..a 16 hand Walker mare who lived till 34 or so...died of hoof infection after stepping on broke glass in the barn

guess which 11 year old broke the ball jar...man I always carried guilt over that

and now warn my kids not to leave crap in the pasture or barn

my aunt ..whose horse it was..lives near us up here now and doesn’t even remember me doing that...but I do


1,222 posted on 10/11/2012 10:51:40 PM PDT by wardaddy (my wife prays in the tanning bed....guess what region i live in...ya'll?)
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To: Fresh Wind

Iran can buy the weapon from the Norks or rogue ISI Pakistanis.


1,223 posted on 10/11/2012 10:52:30 PM PDT by rfp1234
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To: fatima

lol

i do love autumn...i cannot lie

i told Annette...dang why sit and stare at FOX when we can sit outside...around 50 degrees and enjoy a fire and some nice Joe and the fresh air

and our big pals hanging around for some sweet feed

plus we get quiet time from the Wild bunch in the house

but it was apparently quite a different interpretation strictly by ear wasn’t it?


1,224 posted on 10/11/2012 10:59:21 PM PDT by wardaddy (my wife prays in the tanning bed....guess what region i live in...ya'll?)
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To: LibsRJerks

Joe Biden: Proof that term limits are necessary to prevent mental illness


1,225 posted on 10/11/2012 11:01:00 PM PDT by Taffini ( Mr. Pippen and Mr. Waffles do not approve and neither do I)
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To: Taffini; truthluva

Thank truthluva for it.

I just replied to it.

:)


1,226 posted on 10/11/2012 11:09:35 PM PDT by Salamander (Can't sleep. Clowns will eat me.)
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To: glock rocks
"Plugs will come off as an ignorant bully dork if he gets aggressive, and a classless clueless quisling dope"

You were right on the money with that call.

1,227 posted on 10/11/2012 11:25:32 PM PDT by mass55th (Courage is being scared to death - but saddling up anyway...John Wayne)
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To: SE Mom; arasina

Checking in — Ryan did great! Couldn’t do live thread — we were at our local GOP HQ with Gov Sandoval watching the debate!


1,228 posted on 10/11/2012 11:54:47 PM PDT by sf4dubya (I rebelled against my parents by becoming a conservative. REJECT THEN STOP SOCIALISM THIS NOV!)
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To: rdl6989

1,229 posted on 10/12/2012 12:18:47 AM PDT by goron ("Folks, I can tell you I've known eight presidents, three of them intimately." --Joe Biden, 8/22/12)
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To: TigerClaws
“We had no idea that they needed more security!”

- Joe Biden on Benghazi

Remember that Obama and Biden are the guys slashing our military to pre-WWI levels. After the next attack on our shores, they will claim they had no idea we needed security. Will Joe still be laughing as he tells us? How many more American fatalities will be bumps in the road for them?

1,230 posted on 10/12/2012 1:55:44 AM PDT by roadcat
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To: Lmo56; kristinn

IMO the next commercial should be Biden’s laughter at important issues coupled with pictures of Obam’s digital comments. “THE REASON BIPARTISANSHIP IS DEAD IN DC!” sums it up.


1,231 posted on 10/12/2012 2:38:01 AM PDT by hoosiermama (Obama: "Born in Kenya" Lying now or then.)
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To: Marcella; wardaddy; CedarDave; Jim Robinson; John Robinson
Thanks for your comments, y'all .. and for the link to Jim's reply, Dave.

I shut it down and went to bed about 2330, so just saw them this morning.

Jim, you and John have my very best of wishes for figuring out the kink in the hose, whatever/wherever it is.

As a diagnostic fyi, while FR was crawling last night, my weather sites, work-related stuff, zap tv, etc were all zipping along, so it wasn't just general grousing due to slow gear here.

Anyway .. happy TGIF to one and all   :-)

1,232 posted on 10/12/2012 3:50:40 AM PDT by tomkat
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To: Darnright
I was a kid when those debates occurred. Nixon just wasn’t as photogenic as Kennedy? Or did Nixon grimace or make other visual gaffes?

I didn't mean to imply that Nixon did anything comparable to Biden. His only "gaffe" was that he refused to use makeup, so his 5 o'clock shadow was obvious, and compared to the photogenic Kennedy, he looked terrible. In fact, I read that he had been in the hospital not long before the debate, and may not have been fully recovered. It was said that Nixon won on substance, but Kennedy won on optics, hence the radio vs. TV comments.

1,233 posted on 10/12/2012 3:54:58 AM PDT by Fresh Wind ('People have got to know whether or not their president is a crook.' Richard M. Nixon)
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To: monkapotamus

Monk—that is a great photoshop in #1191—Raddatz as the biker chick sitting on Biteme’s lap.

Nice Touch with Ryan put in leather as the chick’s disaffected “friend”.

OMG—I had such a laugh when I got up this morning and saw your great handiwork! Thanks!

Freepers—please send this graphic far and wide.

There is a short four day window to make hay over Biden’s horrendous performance before the next Romney-Zippy debate.

Make no mistake—Biden’s disrespect will be the talk of the country—and how Ryan could be President, in folk’s eyes who are not as familiar as we are with the political topics.

Romney and Ryan should hammer Joe’s uncivility as a prime example of the partisanship and tone in DC the Democrats routinely engage in, the Obama/Reid/Pelosi tactics of lockout, etc.

Let’s make the most of it.


1,234 posted on 10/12/2012 4:17:10 AM PDT by exit82 ("The Taliban is on the inside of the building" E. Nordstrom 10-10-12)
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To: Marcella

I tried all through the debate to get on the thread and put in my two cents. Not once was I sucessful. Very disappointing.


1,235 posted on 10/12/2012 4:24:51 AM PDT by animal172 (Go Paul Ryan. Chew 'em up and spit 'em out.)
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To: Jim Robinson
I saw myself that the load average was not high and that the cpu’s were mostly idle all night. I asked him if it could be a DOS attack or a configuration problem and he said could be. He’d look into it. Said the system was not overloaded and it would be a shame to buy a new database server and not solve the problem.

It would be worth A LOT of money to the Democrat party to put this site out of commission on days like yesterday.

I wouldn't be surprised if they have "people" on salary to deal with the "problem".

I'm just sayin'.

1,236 posted on 10/12/2012 5:01:11 AM PDT by kiryandil (turning Americans into felons, one obnoxious drunk at a time (Zero Tolerance!!!))
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To: fatima

I remember him as actually civil to Palin —

It was a malbec ....;) My new favorite.


1,237 posted on 10/12/2012 5:02:13 AM PDT by LibsRJerks
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To: kristinn

Couldn’t get on this thread last night after the debate but I’ve just scrolled through all the responses. Biden was a disgrace, our enemies must be laughing all the way to the weapons cache. Our country won’t survive 4 more years of Obama/Biden. I did think of one reason Biden was laughing so much. Maybe he was overcompensating because he reminds so many people of Walter, Jeff Dunham’s grouch puppet. He was like Walter on happy pills with a vodka chaser.


1,238 posted on 10/12/2012 5:07:54 AM PDT by MomwithHope (Buy and read Ameritopia by Mark Levin!)
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To: Darnright

You should have watched the GOP convention Ryan spoke then. Go to you tube and find Ryan speaking it’s all there.


1,239 posted on 10/12/2012 5:08:23 AM PDT by angcat (ROMNEY/RYAN 2012 & NY YANKEES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
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To: Irenic

Aim him right up the middle.
I know Joe is a pragmatic fellow.


1,240 posted on 10/12/2012 5:11:39 AM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: Darnright

“He came across as such an ass people have been turned off.”

On CNN this morning, Erik Erickson said that Mary could have ridden Joe Biden to Bethlehem.


1,241 posted on 10/12/2012 5:48:50 AM PDT by toldyou (Even if the voices aren't real, they have some pretty good ideas.)
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To: tomkat

I apologize for bouncing that FReepathon graphic off of your post. I usually post to #0 but got lazy while trying to follow the debate.
Thank you very much for your long standing support of FR.


1,242 posted on 10/12/2012 5:51:55 AM PDT by RedMDer (https://support.woundedwarriorproject.org/default.aspx?tsid=93destr)
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To: toldyou

Ouch!

Somebody on FNC this morning said Joe must have taken a 5 Hour Energy drink. But it ran out 1/2 hour before the end of the debate.


1,243 posted on 10/12/2012 6:02:36 AM PDT by McGruff (Support your local Republican candidates. They are our last line of defense.)
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To: Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America

Thank you for voting!

Joe Biden 46.9%

Paul Ryan 53.1%


1,244 posted on 10/12/2012 6:09:39 AM PDT by Chief901 (Obama Septic Tank Campaign Ads, full of sh!t and smell like crap)
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To: RedMDer
Thank you.

Last night was a mess, both politically and technically .. frustration levels were high all'round.

FRegards,
Tom

1,245 posted on 10/12/2012 6:21:20 AM PDT by tomkat (lamp posts are just the right height for journ0lists)
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To: toldyou

>On CNN this morning, Erik Erickson said that Mary could have ridden Joe Biden to Bethlehem.<

Bwaaahaaahaahaa! Now that is the ultimate put down. I like Eric. He’s a bright guy. I’m glad he’s on our side (well, usually).


1,246 posted on 10/12/2012 6:21:58 AM PDT by Darnright ("I don't trust liberals, I trust conservatives." - Lucius Annaeus Seneca)
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To: animal172

“I tried all through the debate to get on the thread and put in my two cents. Not once was I sucessful. Very disappointing.”

I couldn’t access FR either.


1,247 posted on 10/12/2012 6:28:42 AM PDT by toldyou (Even if the voices aren't real, they have some pretty good ideas.)
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To: patriciamary

“ryan has a mouth he can say something to address the interrupting”

Capitalization and punctuation are our friends. Grammar, logic and rhetoric—the Trivium, dear heart, are intended to assist in communication.

As in debates, when one of the participants comes in determined to `poison the well’ then, unfortunately, everyone loses.

I watched the last part of the debate with a sinus headache. Debates are supposed to help the citizens. Joe queered it for everyone by acting like a pompous jerk.

Ryan comported himself like a man Joes’s age while Joe acted much as we anticipated he would: Joe was a senior-citizen, frat rat—with a load on.


1,248 posted on 10/12/2012 6:29:12 AM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: all armed conservatives)
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To: kevao
Agreed the GOP who allowed this moderator should be fired. Why can't the GOP insist on ‘fair’ moderators- every debate I can remember was moderated by a liberal and they chose the format. Who is on the presidential debate commission...anyone know? Supposedly some Republicans and I'd like to start a campaign to fire them and get some fresh new bold representatives. The moderator for the debate was biased and interruptive too...inexcusable and where is the GOP on this? I want to hear them scream about this....God help us.
1,250 posted on 10/12/2012 8:07:06 AM PDT by Faithfull
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