Skip to comments.Who Advised Biden?!? Al Gore?!? The Thursday Night Hari-Kiri
Posted on 10/11/2012 11:52:54 PM PDT by Lazamataz
I watched with sheer amazement, as almost every single mistake Al Gore made with George W. Bush at a Presidential debate, Joe Biden repeated.
Oh, certainly, he did not have too much makeup on, nor did he attempt to stride up to Ryan menacingly (which would have earned him the same bemused look Bush gave Gore), but everything else? Check. Check. And check.
Biden was heard sighing and chuckling in the background. His voice dripped with contempt, even when describing his own plans and ideas. He overtalked so much that at one point, it seemed like Ryan should make like he was about to say something, then stop, just to bait Biden into preemptively interrupting:
Ryan: (makes motion like he is about to speak)I call this form of interruption-baiting 'balk-talk'. Biden's interruptions and overtalking were so rude, the moderator had to publicly chide Biden NOT to interrupt during the very sensitive discussion of the role of religion in their diametrically opposed positions regarding abortion. If I may digress momentarily about the abortion question, Joe Biden had to tacitly admit the Catholic position was pro-life, but in a squirming stretch, made the case that Jewish, Islamic, and other religions are not. His answer was befuddling to most, and most notably, seemed befuddling to Joe Biden.
Biden: (interrupting) "That's just bullcrap."
Ryan: (makes another motion like he is about to speak)
Biden: (interrupting) "What a liar."
Ryan: "I didn't say anything yet."
Biden: "Well, if you had, it would have been bullcrap and lies."
Biden was rude and condescending throughout the debate, and demonstrated flashes of anger consistently through the debate. We all know men who act like Joe Biden acted, but usually, they are holding a beer, in a trailer park, wearing a wife-beater t-shirt, and menacing their spouses with a threatened backhand.
I made an immediate prediction that Biden's performance was sure to hurt the Obama/AngryJoe ticket with Independents and especially with WOMEN, who all have dated an arrogant, angry jerk JUST LIKE JOE BIDEN, at least once in their lives.
CNN promptly confirmed this prediction on the air, on Wednesday night, with the little data they had at their disposal. I suspect we will see a lot more of polling data that will show that Biden's maniacal, rude, attack-poodle Al Gore imitation will inure to his ticket's detriment among the all-important woman vote.
Spot ON, Laz A. Mataz!!!!!!!!
This is a short little dash-off piece written in the dead of night. I think it captures the debate performance by Biden rather well, though.
I affirm your skills of discernment and analysis, though not always your taste and choices in women.
Absolutely. Good analysis.
This was a strategic decision, too, made probably by Obama and Biden together.... further showing us the pure inept nature of this administration. That we have not been nuked or otherwise attacked during the Obama years is a surprising blessing. Had I been an enemy of the USA, I would have picked NOW to wage my war.
Thank you dear. :)
Quick dash-off material. I should have run it through a few checkers (speller, grammar) but I am just too damned tired right now. LOL
It reminded me of that debate as well - remember that polls showed Gore supposedly decisively won that debate, but his polls tumbled in the days that followed in the head to head matchup because people did not like his unprofessional conduct. In this case we have the rudeness and most per the CNN poll thought Ryan won the debate, had greater clarity, and came across as more likeable.
Biden was making me think of some cranky old man that was to shoo every youngling in sight away because the young couldn’t possible be smart enough to compete with the oldsters.
I think it is time for ol’joe to retire.
I seriously wonder if Algore had a hand in this. This mirrored that debate.
Someone, maybe Rove, compared the debate to the Nixon / Kennedy debate, the people who listened on the radio thought that Nixon won.
Much as I am unaccustomed to serious commentary at this time of night, I am moved to offer this observation.
Democrats are skilled at one thing, seeing reality through the prism of their own delusions.
In analyzing how and why The Usurper was owned in the first debate, they obviously mistook mastery for disdain and competence for arrogance. Thus Slo-Joe was coached (probably by himself) to “take charge” by assuming a condescending attitude, and to affect knowledge by interruption.
In the humorless world of the Liberal Mind, the only things that are funny are ridicule and oafishness. This makes Slo-Joe a success by their standards and he decided to do that at which he is best.
The Usurper promptly gave him a big thumbs up on his performance, but remember, he thought he actually won the first debate.
Sorry. I'll never do it again.
The rest of your commentary is spot-on. They simply do not live on our planet. Period.
I was listening part of the time on the radio while driving around doing errands...I could hear Biden laughing, making sarcastic remarks under his breath while Ryan was trying to speak.
I thought that too, but then I realized that Ryan did a clever thing by staying calm, not reacting. His behavior talked for him and this is what it said: This is the problem with politics, this is why nothing can get done, it is good to listen to people and to have respect,we are sick and tired of the phoney theatrics and gotchas because our country is in serious trouble right now... In the end, Ryan really won when he did his closing and after thanking the moderator, etc., he said, and thank you JOE. He got to stick the knife in so sweetly, call him JOE, and in that moment Joe felt very small because he, I think, had not thanked Ryan in his closing, nor said one nice thing all evening, while Ryan said several decent things to Joe. It was that thing like when someone is very intrusive in public and you allow them through and they dont even say thank you...and you say to THEM thank you. I can relate to that and it wins.
Switch on CNN and watch the graph when Biden squawks.
And the more he talks, the more the line plummets.
The line jacks right back up again when Ryan talks.
So true Laz, we need those putzes out of power!
I suspect ole’ Wife-Beater-Joe just added to the probability of defeat for Obama/Biden.
I honestly thought that Biden was going to hit Ryan.
I think if you are trying to get independents in the Mid-West who are going to win this election, then Biden was a big loser and Ryan the big winner.
The only people who love Joe Biden are liberal a**holes who are around rude a**holes all the time and don’t have real American values.
I don’t say this as a committed conservative and Freeper, but I truly believe that the Biden attitude is a big loser for the campaign, despite how New York and Washington liberal elites spin it for Biden.
Very good analysis, Anima! Thanks!
Seriously. We need to remind women from now until the election that this is the abusive man they dated and dumped.
A little too polite, a little too obnoxious, maybe they’ll get the next debate juuuust right.
No. Attitude sickness.
Ryan performed very admirably.
That's actually a danger.
I'm posting the two editorials I wrote to facebook, then going back to sleep. :)
Kentucky bluegrass pollen!
That's what I thought I heard!
How can Biden say that Romney says, just like himeself, that he always says what he means, and then call Romney a liar?
This is why you DONT chase Xanax with Red Bull...!!!
But Joe is usually two deep into boilermakers by 9 pm central time, he had to take the edge off.
I was laughing at a tweet about slavery, because they accused Ryan of not wanting to impose his beliefs on others .... I certainly didn’t hear that in the debate, but replied ....”like abortion?” Biden is a Catholic.
An unprincipled bastard.
It’s a damn good thing the approval graph at the bottom of the CNN broadcast wasn’t Buttin’s EKG.
“How can Biden say that Romney says, just like himeself, that he always says what he means, and then call Romney a liar?”
You cannot outrun your subconscious.
Biden was making me think of some cranky old man that was to shoo every youngling in sight away because the young couldnt possible be smart enough to compete with the oldsters.
Biden made faces, shook his head indicating a negative, that know-it-all smile, smirks, rolling his eyes so likened to Gores 2000 debate persona of sighs, frowns, stalking and clearing of throat.
Tell me you made that up.
Many women are of the opinion that size does not matter. So at least among that particular demographic, no votes will be swayed by the fact that Biden was a really big dick tonight.
Hey dude! Wish we had more chance to hang at the shoot. I understand you are pretty much one of the best shots there.