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Who Advised Biden?!? Al Gore?!? The Thursday Night Hari-Kiri
Free Republic Original Content | October 12, 2012 | By Laz A. Mataz

Posted on 10/11/2012 11:52:54 PM PDT by Lazamataz

I watched with sheer amazement, as almost every single mistake Al Gore made with George W. Bush at a Presidential debate, Joe Biden repeated.

Oh, certainly, he did not have too much makeup on, nor did he attempt to stride up to Ryan menacingly (which would have earned him the same bemused look Bush gave Gore), but everything else? Check. Check. And check.

Biden was heard sighing and chuckling in the background. His voice dripped with contempt, even when describing his own plans and ideas. He overtalked so much that at one point, it seemed like Ryan should make like he was about to say something, then stop, just to bait Biden into preemptively interrupting:

Ryan: (makes motion like he is about to speak)
Biden: (interrupting) "That's just bullcrap."
Ryan: (makes another motion like he is about to speak)
Biden: (interrupting) "What a liar."
Ryan: "I didn't say anything yet."
Biden: "Well, if you had, it would have been bullcrap and lies."
I call this form of interruption-baiting 'balk-talk'. Biden's interruptions and overtalking were so rude, the moderator had to publicly chide Biden NOT to interrupt during the very sensitive discussion of the role of religion in their diametrically opposed positions regarding abortion. If I may digress momentarily about the abortion question, Joe Biden had to tacitly admit the Catholic position was pro-life, but in a squirming stretch, made the case that Jewish, Islamic, and other religions are not. His answer was befuddling to most, and most notably, seemed befuddling to Joe Biden.

Biden was rude and condescending throughout the debate, and demonstrated flashes of anger consistently through the debate. We all know men who act like Joe Biden acted, but usually, they are holding a beer, in a trailer park, wearing a wife-beater t-shirt, and menacing their spouses with a threatened backhand.

I made an immediate prediction that Biden's performance was sure to hurt the Obama/AngryJoe ticket with Independents and especially with WOMEN, who all have dated an arrogant, angry jerk JUST LIKE JOE BIDEN, at least once in their lives.

CNN promptly confirmed this prediction on the air, on Wednesday night, with the little data they had at their disposal. I suspect we will see a lot more of polling data that will show that Biden's maniacal, rude, attack-poodle Al Gore imitation will inure to his ticket's detriment among the all-important woman vote.


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1 posted on 10/11/2012 11:53:02 PM PDT by Lazamataz
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To: Lazamataz

Spot ON, Laz A. Mataz!!!!!!!!


2 posted on 10/11/2012 11:55:26 PM PDT by Bradís Gramma (PRAY for this country like your life depends on it......because it DOES!)
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This is a short little dash-off piece written in the dead of night. I think it captures the debate performance by Biden rather well, though.

3 posted on 10/11/2012 11:56:18 PM PDT by Lazamataz (WAAAAAAAAAHHHhhhhh.....)
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To: Lazamataz

4 posted on 10/11/2012 11:58:00 PM PDT by Berlin_Freeper (Winning is Everything.)
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To: Lazamataz
I made an immediate prediction that Biden's performance was sure to hurt the Obama/AngryJoe ticket with Independents and especially with WOMEN, who all have dated an arrogant, angry jerk JUST LIKE JOE BIDEN, at least once in their lives.

I affirm your skills of discernment and analysis, though not always your taste and choices in women.

5 posted on 10/11/2012 11:58:22 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Romney vs Obama, Round One: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oyNxHOZiQPA)
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To: Lazamataz

Absolutely. Good analysis.


6 posted on 10/11/2012 11:58:38 PM PDT by winner3000
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To: Berlin_Freeper
It was amazing to watch, to see a man repeat AlGore's many mistakes.

This was a strategic decision, too, made probably by Obama and Biden together.... further showing us the pure inept nature of this administration. That we have not been nuked or otherwise attacked during the Obama years is a surprising blessing. Had I been an enemy of the USA, I would have picked NOW to wage my war.

7 posted on 10/12/2012 12:00:04 AM PDT by Lazamataz (WAAAAAAAAAHHHhhhhh.....)
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To: Lazamataz

8 posted on 10/12/2012 12:00:19 AM PDT by Berlin_Freeper (Winning is Everything.)
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To: Brad's Gramma

Thank you dear. :)


9 posted on 10/12/2012 12:00:22 AM PDT by Lazamataz (WAAAAAAAAAHHHhhhhh.....)
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To: winner3000

Quick dash-off material. I should have run it through a few checkers (speller, grammar) but I am just too damned tired right now. LOL


10 posted on 10/12/2012 12:01:14 AM PDT by Lazamataz (WAAAAAAAAAHHHhhhhh.....)
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To: Lazamataz

It reminded me of that debate as well - remember that polls showed Gore supposedly decisively won that debate, but his polls tumbled in the days that followed in the head to head matchup because people did not like his unprofessional conduct. In this case we have the rudeness and most per the CNN poll thought Ryan won the debate, had greater clarity, and came across as more likeable.


11 posted on 10/12/2012 12:01:30 AM PDT by Republican Wildcat
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To: Berlin_Freeper

12 posted on 10/12/2012 12:02:10 AM PDT by Berlin_Freeper (Winning is Everything.)
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To: Lazamataz

Biden was making me think of some cranky old man that was to shoo every youngling in sight away because the young couldn’t possible be smart enough to compete with the oldsters.

I think it is time for ol’joe to retire.


13 posted on 10/12/2012 12:02:17 AM PDT by dila813
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To: Republican Wildcat

I seriously wonder if Algore had a hand in this. This mirrored that debate.


14 posted on 10/12/2012 12:02:31 AM PDT by Lazamataz (WAAAAAAAAAHHHhhhhh.....)
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To: Republican Wildcat

Someone, maybe Rove, compared the debate to the Nixon / Kennedy debate, the people who listened on the radio thought that Nixon won.


15 posted on 10/12/2012 12:04:57 AM PDT by Eva (Obama and Hillary lied, Americans died.)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

16 posted on 10/12/2012 12:05:50 AM PDT by Berlin_Freeper (Winning is Everything.)
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To: Lazamataz

17 posted on 10/12/2012 12:06:22 AM PDT by MuttTheHoople (Obama does not have the work ethic to be Anti-Christ.)
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To: Lazamataz; Salamander

Much as I am unaccustomed to serious commentary at this time of night, I am moved to offer this observation.

Democrats are skilled at one thing, seeing reality through the prism of their own delusions.

In analyzing how and why The Usurper was owned in the first debate, they obviously mistook mastery for disdain and competence for arrogance. Thus Slo-Joe was coached (probably by himself) to “take charge” by assuming a condescending attitude, and to affect knowledge by interruption.

In the humorless world of the Liberal Mind, the only things that are funny are ridicule and oafishness. This makes Slo-Joe a success by their standards and he decided to do that at which he is best.

The Usurper promptly gave him a big thumbs up on his performance, but remember, he thought he actually won the first debate.


18 posted on 10/12/2012 12:06:35 AM PDT by shibumi (Cover it with gas and set it on fire.)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

19 posted on 10/12/2012 12:08:02 AM PDT by Berlin_Freeper (Winning is Everything.)
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To: shibumi
Much as I am unaccustomed to serious commentary at this time of night

Sorry. I'll never do it again.

The rest of your commentary is spot-on. They simply do not live on our planet. Period.

20 posted on 10/12/2012 12:08:14 AM PDT by Lazamataz (WAAAAAAAAAHHHhhhhh.....)
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To: Lazamataz

Altitude sickness!


21 posted on 10/12/2012 12:09:08 AM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: Eva

I was listening part of the time on the radio while driving around doing errands...I could hear Biden laughing, making sarcastic remarks under his breath while Ryan was trying to speak.


22 posted on 10/12/2012 12:11:20 AM PDT by Republican Wildcat
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To: Republican Wildcat; Anima Mundi
Writes Anima Mundi, on another thread:

I thought that too, but then I realized that Ryan did a clever thing by staying calm, not reacting. His behavior talked for him and this is what it said: “This is the problem with politics, this is why nothing can get done, it is good to listen to people and to have respect,we are sick and tired of the phoney theatrics and gotchas because our country is in serious trouble right now”... In the end, Ryan really won when he did his closing and after thanking the moderator, etc., he said, “and thank you JOE.” He got to stick the knife in so sweetly, call him JOE, and in that moment Joe felt very small because he, I think, had not thanked Ryan in his closing, nor said one nice thing all evening, while Ryan said several decent things to “Joe.” It was that thing like when someone is very intrusive in public and you allow them through and they don’t even say thank you...and you say to THEM “thank you.” I can relate to that and it wins.

23 posted on 10/12/2012 12:12:25 AM PDT by Lazamataz (WAAAAAAAAAHHHhhhhh.....)
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To: shibumi

Switch on CNN and watch the graph when Biden squawks.

He TANKS.
And the more he talks, the more the line plummets.

The line jacks right back up again when Ryan talks.


24 posted on 10/12/2012 12:13:29 AM PDT by Salamander (Can't sleep. Clowns will eat me.)
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To: Lazamataz
Related RNC AD already up

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PCtemaHgjyA&feature=youtube_gdata_player... Laughing at the Issues






25 posted on 10/12/2012 12:14:53 AM PDT by Stand Watch Listen
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To: Lazamataz

So true Laz, we need those putzes out of power!


26 posted on 10/12/2012 12:14:53 AM PDT by Berlin_Freeper (Winning is Everything.)
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To: Salamander

I suspect ole’ Wife-Beater-Joe just added to the probability of defeat for Obama/Biden.


27 posted on 10/12/2012 12:15:15 AM PDT by Lazamataz (WAAAAAAAAAHHHhhhhh.....)
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To: Lazamataz

I honestly thought that Biden was going to hit Ryan.


28 posted on 10/12/2012 12:15:42 AM PDT by dila813
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To: Lazamataz

I think if you are trying to get independents in the Mid-West who are going to win this election, then Biden was a big loser and Ryan the big winner.

The only people who love Joe Biden are liberal a**holes who are around rude a**holes all the time and don’t have real American values.

I don’t say this as a committed conservative and Freeper, but I truly believe that the Biden attitude is a big loser for the campaign, despite how New York and Washington liberal elites spin it for Biden.


29 posted on 10/12/2012 12:15:53 AM PDT by radpolis (Liberals: You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy)
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To: All

30 posted on 10/12/2012 12:16:21 AM PDT by monkapotamus
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To: Lazamataz; Anima Mundi

Very good analysis, Anima! Thanks!


31 posted on 10/12/2012 12:16:30 AM PDT by Bradís Gramma (PRAY for this country like your life depends on it......because it DOES!)
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To: dila813

Seriously. We need to remind women from now until the election that this is the abusive man they dated and dumped.


32 posted on 10/12/2012 12:16:56 AM PDT by Lazamataz (WAAAAAAAAAHHHhhhhh.....)
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A little too polite, a little too obnoxious, maybe they’ll get the next debate juuuust right.


33 posted on 10/12/2012 12:17:25 AM PDT by Gene Eric (Demoralization is a weapon of the enemy. Don't get it, don't spread it!)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

No. Attitude sickness.


34 posted on 10/12/2012 12:17:25 AM PDT by oyez ( .Affordable Care is neither affordable nor care.)
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To: radpolis

Ryan performed very admirably.


35 posted on 10/12/2012 12:17:50 AM PDT by Lazamataz (WAAAAAAAAAHHHhhhhh.....)
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To: Gene Eric
A little too polite, a little too obnoxious, maybe they’ll get the next debate juuuust right.

That's actually a danger.

I'm posting the two editorials I wrote to facebook, then going back to sleep. :)

36 posted on 10/12/2012 12:19:10 AM PDT by Lazamataz (WAAAAAAAAAHHHhhhhh.....)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

Kentucky bluegrass pollen!


37 posted on 10/12/2012 12:20:15 AM PDT by Salamander (Can't sleep. Clowns will eat me.)
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To: Berlin_Freeper
"I always say what I mean. And so does Romney."

That's what I thought I heard!

How can Biden say that Romney says, just like himeself, that he always says what he means, and then call Romney a liar?

-PJ

38 posted on 10/12/2012 12:23:15 AM PDT by Political Junkie Too ( It doesn't I naturally when you're not natural born.)
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To: Lazamataz

This is why you DON’T chase Xanax with Red Bull...!!!

But Joe is usually two deep into boilermakers by 9 pm central time, he had to take the edge off.


39 posted on 10/12/2012 12:23:24 AM PDT by Fitzy_888 ("ownership society")
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To: Lazamataz
A compatible ticket:


40 posted on 10/12/2012 12:23:24 AM PDT by Stand Watch Listen
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To: Lazamataz

I was laughing at a tweet about slavery, because they accused Ryan of not wanting to impose his beliefs on others .... I certainly didn’t hear that in the debate, but replied ....”like abortion?” Biden is a Catholic.

An unprincipled bastard.


41 posted on 10/12/2012 12:23:32 AM PDT by dila813
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To: Lazamataz

It’s a damn good thing the approval graph at the bottom of the CNN broadcast wasn’t Buttin’s EKG.


42 posted on 10/12/2012 12:24:42 AM PDT by Salamander (Can't sleep. Clowns will eat me.)
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To: Lazamataz


LAUGH IN



Great material for TV ads and sound bites.... Republicans ? Romney campaign ? USE IT !


ROWAN & MARTIN'S

LAUGH IN






OBAMA & BIDEN'S

LAUGHING


Laughing at people's misery, people being out of jobs, Benghazi just being another " bump in the road ", high gas prices " live with it ".












And folks ? here's the real kicker...


After this passed week after the new official statements from this Administration and the State Department saying that they never claimed or said that the Benghazi attacks was about the video..... are they now going to say that Joe Biden didn't laugh and make a fool of himself in the debate ? are they going to say he wasn't laughing ?

43 posted on 10/12/2012 12:26:37 AM PDT by American Constitutionalist
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To: Political Junkie Too

“How can Biden say that Romney says, just like himeself, that he always says what he means, and then call Romney a liar?”

You cannot outrun your subconscious.


44 posted on 10/12/2012 12:27:21 AM PDT by Salamander (Can't sleep. Clowns will eat me.)
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To: dila813
Biden was making me think of some cranky old man that was to shoo every youngling in sight away because the young couldn’t possible be smart enough to compete with the oldsters.

Biden made faces, shook his head indicating a negative, that know-it-all smile, smirks, rolling his eyes…so likened to Gore’s 2000 debate persona of sighs, frowns, stalking and clearing of throat.


45 posted on 10/12/2012 12:28:47 AM PDT by Stand Watch Listen
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To: Salamander

JOE BUTTIN!

FECKIN BRILLIANT!

Tell me you made that up.


46 posted on 10/12/2012 12:29:21 AM PDT by Lazamataz (WAAAAAAAAAHHHhhhhh.....)
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To: Lazamataz
" I watched with sheer amazement, as almost every single mistake Al Gore made with George W. Bush at a Presidential debate, Joe Biden repeated. "

That was some One-upmanship performance by Joe Biden being more of a jerk&ass than even Al Gore.

Joe Biden: Were being a JackAss more than Al Gore comes natural.
47 posted on 10/12/2012 12:29:46 AM PDT by American Constitutionalist
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To: radpolis

Many women are of the opinion that size does not matter. So at least among that particular demographic, no votes will be swayed by the fact that Biden was a really big dick tonight.


48 posted on 10/12/2012 12:30:55 AM PDT by kevao (Is your ocean any lower than it was four years ago?)
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To: Lazamataz

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_dKoIxnzehY


49 posted on 10/12/2012 12:31:01 AM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: smokingfrog

Hey dude! Wish we had more chance to hang at the shoot. I understand you are pretty much one of the best shots there.


50 posted on 10/12/2012 12:32:01 AM PDT by Lazamataz (WAAAAAAAAAHHHhhhhh.....)
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