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Snap polls: Ryan 2, Biden
Politico ^ | Oct 11, 2012

Posted on 10/12/2012 5:30:45 AM PDT by Milagros

Snap polls: Ryan 2, Biden 1 7

Comments (34) By BYRON TAU | 10/11/12 11:27 PM EDT Two snap polls show Paul Ryan as the winner of the vice presidential debate, while a single poll shows Vice President Biden eking out a victory.

CNN's snap poll finds that 48 percent of viewers think that Ryan won the debate, while 44 percent believe Biden won.

A CNBC snap poll shows a similar result, with 53 percent of respondents identifying Ryan as the winner. By contrast, 41 percent thought that Biden won, while 6 percent believed that neither won.

A CBS News snap poll showed a different result, however. Surveying undecided voters, 50 percent believed Biden won the debate, while 31 percent said that Ryan won. Nineteen percent said it was a tie.


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 2012debates; 2012polls; biden; ryan

1 posted on 10/12/2012 5:30:47 AM PDT by Milagros
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To: Milagros

“A CBS News snap poll showed a different result...”

CBS polled the guys in the newsroom.


2 posted on 10/12/2012 5:37:55 AM PDT by Stingray (Stand for the truth or you'll fall for anything.)
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To: Stingray

No, what it shows is that there are very few undecided voters and that Romney is up by 5.

CNBC and CNN were of all voters, CBS was of undecided.

Ryan got killed among undecideds but apparently won among all voters. That means, not many undecided voters but Romney ahead among decided voters.


3 posted on 10/12/2012 5:43:06 AM PDT by staytrue
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To: staytrue

Apparently, you missed the sarcasm in my reply to the OP.


4 posted on 10/12/2012 5:46:59 AM PDT by Stingray (Stand for the truth or you'll fall for anything.)
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To: Milagros

Ryan looked like a intern to me. I was not impress with his Eddie Haskell whine. But I will call it a tie because of Biden condescending attitude.

Mitt is much more polished and Presidential.


5 posted on 10/12/2012 5:50:40 AM PDT by Orange1998
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To: Stingray

The CBS poll was an online poll; The CNBC was twitter poll, and the CNN/AP polls were polls of RV.


6 posted on 10/12/2012 5:52:05 AM PDT by Perdogg (Vote like the US Constitution depends on it - it does!!)
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To: Stingray

It’s really extraordinary how the poll numbers, as we get closer to the election, are beginning to reflect the what the final results are going to be..

More and more of the independent polling groups are trying to maintain some credibility, after being in the tank for the liberal establishment, and are now dialing back on the obvious bias now that they know that this contest is irreversible.. They can’t hide it much longer without permanently damaging what little legacy they can salvage..


7 posted on 10/12/2012 5:54:42 AM PDT by carlo3b (Less Government, more Fiber..)
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To: Orange1998

You don’t survive and excel for decades in the Boardroom unless you are a commanding leader. Congressmen (House and Senate) simply do not have those qualities.


8 posted on 10/12/2012 6:00:58 AM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: Milagros
Ryan 3, Biden 1.

Fox News snap poll has Ryan 56, Biden 36, No Winner 8
9 posted on 10/12/2012 6:02:54 AM PDT by mmichaels1970
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To: Perdogg

Those online polls are a joke, as we all know.. DU, DB, and Kos, etc, were all pushing CBS and others to do what they could to pound those polls early and often, even linking ways to vote multiple times..


10 posted on 10/12/2012 6:03:54 AM PDT by carlo3b (Less Government, more Fiber..)
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To: Stingray
CBS polled the guys in the newsroom.

:)) lol!
11 posted on 10/12/2012 6:04:24 AM PDT by mmichaels1970
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To: Orange1998

According to a CNN poll 60% of the people believe Ryan was “presidental” on 53% for the crazy uncle.


12 posted on 10/12/2012 6:04:34 AM PDT by Perdogg (Vote like the US Constitution depends on it - it does!!)
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To: Perdogg; Stingray

Throw out the two online polls they are a completely crap and are nothing but people hitting the polls voting over and over again with no control. They even have websites that refresh for you on those online polls to keep voting for you. They’re garbage but of course Politico needed one to give to Biden and had the use the CBS one.

The only one that was a real poll was the CNN/AP one even though it had a MOE of 5%


13 posted on 10/12/2012 6:04:51 AM PDT by snarkytart
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To: Milagros

CBS..... The network of Dan Rather and the truth. /s


14 posted on 10/12/2012 6:06:35 AM PDT by catfish1957 (My dream for hope and change is to see the punk POTUS in prison for treason)
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To: snarkytart

They were RV polls as well. They were Zogbysauced.


15 posted on 10/12/2012 6:08:05 AM PDT by Perdogg (Vote like the US Constitution depends on it - it does!!)
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To: Milagros

Just to prove CNN bias, I saw Sandra Endo, one of CNN’s reporters, today on a Miami station.

Unbelievably, Sandra Endo chose to ignore her own network’s poll that showed a Ryan win, 48-44 over Biden. Instead, Endo reported that “analysts” said the debate was “draw”.

Got bias?


16 posted on 10/12/2012 6:09:09 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: Milagros

Thanks for posting this.


17 posted on 10/12/2012 6:11:46 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

Good point. Ryan and Biden talked like a career politician. Both were unimpressive and boring.

IF you had a choice of Obama, Biden, Romney or Ryan over for dinner Romney would be the most interesting, and the most enjoyable company.

Romney SHINES above them all.


18 posted on 10/12/2012 6:19:52 AM PDT by Orange1998
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To: carlo3b

Ryan was wwwwaaayyyy too timid - i was getting angry at him for letting biden bully him like that and lying about Benghazi


19 posted on 10/12/2012 6:22:56 AM PDT by GlockThe Vote (The Obama Adminstration: 2nd wave of attacks on America after 9/11)
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To: GlockThe Vote
It wouldn't have hurt Ryan to say “Facts are stubborn things Joe” in response to one of Bidens lies.
20 posted on 10/12/2012 6:25:59 AM PDT by HereInTheHeartland (Encourage all of your Democrat friends to get out and vote on November 7th, the stakes are high.)
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To: GlockThe Vote
Ryan was wwwwaaayyyy too timid - i was getting angry at him for letting biden bully him like that

I was ok with Ryan's demeanor for the most part. However, I think he missed a golden opportunity to use that "timidity" to his advantage during his closing statement.

The fact that Biden "won" the coin toss meant that Ryan got to give the final closing statement of the debate without Biden being able to respond. Ryan used the time for the traditional thank-yous and a prepared closing remark.

IMHO, he could have used that time, without fear of Biden's response, to bring in a nice haul of independent, and even democrat voters. Here's how:

Tell the voters that they've just witnessed the sort of behavior that republicans have dealt with for the last four years. Ask them how they could expect anything to get done when contrary points of view are laughed at, sneered at, and disrespected.

Then address voters who are interested in politicians "working together to solve today's big problems". Tell them that a R/R administration would not disrespect those who disagree. Capitalize on the "timidity" by using it to show that you are willing to respect and listen to even your most ardent critics.

Tell independents and democrats that they will be heard, not sneered at. Close with telling them that if they want to see leaders working together, their only chance is to vote republican.

I think he would have blown the O campaign out of the water.
21 posted on 10/12/2012 6:38:47 AM PDT by mmichaels1970
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To: Perdogg
Ryan did not look Presidential pointing out Stimulus funding provided no jobs and doesn't work when Biden countered with 2 letters Ryan requesting stimulus money for local jobs. Ryan stepped right into it and was hammered. Here is the letter.


22 posted on 10/12/2012 6:59:06 AM PDT by Orange1998
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To: SoFloFreeper

Got bias?

Yes, thanks to MSM.


23 posted on 10/12/2012 7:36:39 AM PDT by Milagros (Y)
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To: Stingray

“CBS polled the guys in the newsroom”

Including “objective” Charlie Rose...


24 posted on 10/12/2012 7:38:29 AM PDT by Milagros (Y)
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To: SoFloFreeper

More on Sandra Endo’s bias:

http://www.google.com/#sclient=tablet-gws&hl=en&tbo=d&q=site:newsbusters.org+sandra+endo


25 posted on 10/12/2012 7:49:09 AM PDT by Milagros (Y)
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To: GlockThe Vote

However, in refection, his timidity, and restraint, was the ultimate goal in the attraction to the undecided.. That was the strategy, not to placate us, but to attract THEM..

THEY are just so tired of the conflict and derision of politics.. He came across as calm and reassuring, and displaying the maturity to deal with the negotiations necessary to tackle the problems facing our future..

Think about it.. he has us, we are willing to crawl through hazardous waste to get rid of BHO.. :)


26 posted on 10/12/2012 11:27:56 AM PDT by carlo3b (Less Government, more Fiber..)
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To: carlo3b

I think you are right. The narrative today all over facebook is the ass biden made of himself and Benghazi lies he told


27 posted on 10/12/2012 11:36:38 AM PDT by GlockThe Vote (The Obama Adminstration: 2nd wave of attacks on America after 9/11)
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To: carlo3b

However, in refection, his timidity, and restraint, was the ultimate goal in the attraction to the undecided.. That was the strategy, not to placate us, but to attract THEM..

THEY are just so tired of the conflict and derision of politics.. He came across as calm and reassuring, and displaying the maturity to deal with the negotiations necessary to tackle the problems facing our future..

Think about it.. he has us, we are willing to crawl through hazardous waste to get rid of BHO.. :)


Agree.

Mitt will have 2 more shots at consolidating the votes, and demonstrating the
contrast between ideas/solutions and distortion/deceptions.


28 posted on 10/12/2012 11:39:16 AM PDT by patriotspride
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To: GlockThe Vote

The narrative today all over facebook is the ass biden made of himself and Benghazi lies he told


Good . If the younger media users have him pegged as a buffon then that may
influence their ticket vote.


29 posted on 10/12/2012 11:41:04 AM PDT by patriotspride
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