Skip to comments.Paul Ryan: 56%, Joe Biden: 36%, Neither: 8%. - Fox news Snap Poll
Posted on 10/12/2012 5:47:52 AM PDT by ThinkingBuddha
Who do you think won the VP Debate? Paul Ryan: 56%, Joe Biden: 36%, Neither: 8%. Read more: http://nation.foxnews.com/vp-debate-poll/2012/10/11/ryan-wins-post-debate-snap-poll#ixzz295XKiR3y
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Ryan is young....but no doubt has his head on straight and willing to work FOR ALL OF US.
Don’t know as it was unwatchable...
R/R are 2-0 with two debates to go!
So much for Joe Biden as the great white (dem) hope. There’s no one left to bail Obama out. Its all on him going forward.
I don’t quite ‘get’ the polling on this one. Condescending chortles, interuption, and talking over your opponent don’t equate to getting your ideas in front of the American public.
And, I reject the meme that Ryan was put on the defensive the entire night....the nature of the election automatically puts the current administration on the defensive.
Ryan did look nervous at times, and he left some things unanswered. I especially wished he would admonish Biden for repeatedly saying ‘you guys need to take responsibility’...for what? Romney hasn’t held elected office for years...and all these phantom cuts Ryan voted for never became law...because the senate hasn’t taken up a budget in years.
Oh well...but oddly, once again the American public has witnessed Barry’s penchant for letting other people do the hard work. The more the media shout about how great Joe did, the more we are reminded that Obama isn’t ready for prime time. Biden, Romney, AND Ryan have outperformed him.
Next debate Romney will have to combat the liberal plants not Obama. He better have great answers for Hobson’s Choice type questions like...”Mr Romney if my daughter was raped would you restrict her choices on what she wants to do with the baby..”. Obama is inconsequential, he is a bumbling, rambling idiot, this was proven last debate. The MSM will declare Obama the winner and Ben Franklins will be exchanged to the DUer plants afterwards.
I’m not sure that “winning” or “losing” the debate was what this one was about.
From my perspective, Biden’s job was to staunch the bleeding of the Kenyan’s campaign. If he’d have allowed Rep. Ryan a fair hearing, we’d be looking at a >55% - <44% race on election day, with the anti-Christ scoring fewer than 200 electoral votes.
So, the Dem objective was just to prevent Rep. Ryan from scoring the knock-out punch. They were also hoping to get lucky, and have Rep. Ryan react negatively toward the anti-Christ’s minion’s atrocious behavior. They didn’t get lucky; the next Vice President showed himself to be a man of nearly limitless patience. But Biden did achieve the primary objective: He prevented the knock-out punch.
By the same token, the first goal of the Romney/Ryan campaign was to guard against an outright loss. They knew that Biden would attack and try to provoke Rep. Ryan. They knew that Biden would try to simultaneously prevent Rep. Ryan from getting across his message while also trying to get him to behave uncivilly. The Romney/Ryan folks knew their primary objective was for Rep. Ryan to appear serious, personable, knowledgeable, and mature. For them, getting lucky would have been to be able to cut through all the nonsense they knew Biden was going to throw at them, and deliver the coup de grace. They achieved their primary goal, but didn’t get lucky.
Thus, the Dems have staunched the arterial bleeding of their campaign, and live to fight another day, but the Republicans continue in a favored position, unharmed by last night’s debate.
On balance, it’s a modest “win” for Gov. Romney and Rep. Ryan, in that the event mostly just firmed up the status quo, which right now, favors them significantly.
It is sort of a nice bonus that the creature Biden was revealed to all of America for the slimy disease that it is.
Biden looked a little... impaired during the debate. Was it just me or had our Vice President had a couple (or 6) before the debate?
‘’Unexpected or inappropriate smiling, laughter, or excitement’’ is a classic symptom of schizophrenia.
The average voter does not have to have a degree in psychopathology to understand that something was wrong with Joe Biden last night. If the purpose of the debate was to determine which candidate was likelier to end up in a mental institution, Joe Biden won hands down. But if the purpose was to determine who would make a better vice-president of the United States, Paul Ryan had a decisive victory.
Joe was the drunk uncle last night. He acted as if the moderator was sitting on his lap, while he laughed. It was 2 against 1, but Ryan was still a gentleman.
Joe may have had the questions in advance and that is why he was laughing without much control.
Joe Biden is a complete and total ass, who doesn’t have the slightest concept of when he is making a fool of himself. I bet Raddatz wanted so bad to pass him a note or give him a high sign to “Turn off the teeth, Joe”. I also wonder if the people who were coaching Biden non-stop for the debate for the last week had any idea he was going to pull that crap at debate time. Seems like they must have thought of every possible way Joe Biden could make a fool of himself and drilled him on it.
Martha Raddatz lost the debate BIG TIME!!!!
The other loser was Joe Biden—he lost by default on his smirks and lies!
That leaves Ryan—the survivor by default—as the winner!
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I think you’re right, they sacrificed Biden’s likability to prevent an all out win and the R/R campaign’s momentum from really taking off. Hoping that Biden’s likeability (or lack thereof) won’t ultimately rub off too much on Obama.
It’s a solid strategy on their part. They gave up on the chance to win in order to guarantee to not get blown out. But it was still a loss for them.
Paul - we're dealing with Chicago thug style politicians. We need you to put the rabid lying dogs down. Paul - you're a nice guy and a wonk but nice guys will finish last in this race.
I'm a Christian conservative voter. Unfortunately, I saw Ryan as being out of his league last night. My concern is that many independents saw him the same way.
He did such a (((wonderful))) job. He certainly convinced me that Democrat policies were the way to go!
“Condescending chortles, interuption, and talking over your opponent dont equate to getting your ideas in front of the American public”
Quite apparent that Axelrod had a lot of input into Biden’s debate prep: short on facts - well, legitimate facts - and long on bully and diversion tactics.
Gotta give credit where credit is due. The Kenyan’s camp knew their man. They understood Biden’s limitations. They chopped the mission down to the man. They knew that Biden couldn’t beat Rep. Ryan on points, couldn’t run on the anti-Christ’s record, couldn’t show himself smarter than Rep. Ryan.
But he could get in the way of Rep. Ryan making a clear case.
In boxing terms, opposite of rope-a-dope, his strategy was to get in there close and clinch Rep. Ryan, so that Rep. Ryan could never make a clean, forceful punch. While in the clinch, he delivered a few glancing low blows, but nothing really landed.
The “moderator” made no effort to force Biden to stop clinching, and in fact, often joined in the fun.
Tactical win for the Dems: their campaign didn’t get destroyed. Strategic win for the Republicans: Every day they maintain or slightly build their lead is a day closer to victory.
I was taken aback at how biden was yelling and wagging his finger at the moderator. I was wondering if he would have done that to a man and also wondering why his comments weren’t directed to Ryan, but rather the woman at the table...
Awful debate. Biden’s smirks, use of the word MALARKEY, and constant interruptions were just too much. The one thing I wished Ryan would have hit on HARDER and would have shut Biden up would have been to hit hard on Harry Reid! Biden’s entire line of attack was the Republican House Obstruction. If I were Ryan, I would have pointed out SENATE OBSTRUCTION and SENATE TABLING OF BILLS!
I think the old adage, “Never Wrestle with a Pig” comes to mind.
That CNBC poll was an online poll, not a real poll. Later in the evening it had Biden ahead.
Of the two actual polls I’ve seen, Ryan won the CNN one and Biden won the CBS version of the same.
Personally, I think Biden was so offputting that Ryan wins by default.
You should write political commentary for a living... excellent review this morning.. nice job!
Plugs was on drugs.
The man’s mind must be a medical waste dump.
I watched the whole thing — and it was painful to watch. I don’t know how Ryan could sit there and restrain himself from hauling off and socking Biden in the face.
CBS was an online poll as well. Only two polls that I’ve seen so far that were not online polls are CNN and Pew. Both had Ryan winning.
Allow me to correct one word - Biden - the great white dope -
I’ve been thinking over a few things. I was rather upset that Paul didn’t comeback with some zingers when the opportunities were there. However, I’ve come to the conclusion that he just let Biden act out and let the American public see for themselves what a buffoon he really is. Sort of like ignoring your child when he/she acts up and not giving in. When they settle down, then you have a conversation. I really think they wanted Paul to react so that Biden could deliver what they thought would be a true knock-out punch and Paul didn’t give him the satisfaction. I also think Paul just wanted to get it over with and get the heck out of there. He was tag-teamed.
One thing I wish Ryan would have done....turn to Joe Biden while he was smiling and say ‘I really don’t think the American people find a nuclear Iran to be that funny, Joe...so please tell me whay you do.’
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Not just you. Definitely a lack of impulse control & “mood elevation” there.
Then again, considering the general condition of the left, I guess it shouldn’t have been too surprising. I feel lucky that he wasn’t slingin’ the S & F all over the place, myself.