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1 posted on 10/12/2012 5:47:59 AM PDT by ThinkingBuddha
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Joe is rude and it's all about "Party".

Ryan is young....but no doubt has his head on straight and willing to work FOR ALL OF US.

2 posted on 10/12/2012 5:52:37 AM PDT by Sacajaweau (r)
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Don’t know as it was unwatchable...


3 posted on 10/12/2012 5:52:47 AM PDT by Michigander222
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R/R are 2-0 with two debates to go!

So much for Joe Biden as the great white (dem) hope. There’s no one left to bail Obama out. Its all on him going forward.


4 posted on 10/12/2012 5:53:58 AM PDT by goodolemr
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I don’t quite ‘get’ the polling on this one. Condescending chortles, interuption, and talking over your opponent don’t equate to getting your ideas in front of the American public.

And, I reject the meme that Ryan was put on the defensive the entire night....the nature of the election automatically puts the current administration on the defensive.

Ryan did look nervous at times, and he left some things unanswered. I especially wished he would admonish Biden for repeatedly saying ‘you guys need to take responsibility’...for what? Romney hasn’t held elected office for years...and all these phantom cuts Ryan voted for never became law...because the senate hasn’t taken up a budget in years.

Oh well...but oddly, once again the American public has witnessed Barry’s penchant for letting other people do the hard work. The more the media shout about how great Joe did, the more we are reminded that Obama isn’t ready for prime time. Biden, Romney, AND Ryan have outperformed him.


5 posted on 10/12/2012 5:56:50 AM PDT by lacrew (Mr. Soetoro, we regret to inform you that your race card is over the credit limit.)
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I’m not sure that “winning” or “losing” the debate was what this one was about.

From my perspective, Biden’s job was to staunch the bleeding of the Kenyan’s campaign. If he’d have allowed Rep. Ryan a fair hearing, we’d be looking at a >55% - <44% race on election day, with the anti-Christ scoring fewer than 200 electoral votes.

So, the Dem objective was just to prevent Rep. Ryan from scoring the knock-out punch. They were also hoping to get lucky, and have Rep. Ryan react negatively toward the anti-Christ’s minion’s atrocious behavior. They didn’t get lucky; the next Vice President showed himself to be a man of nearly limitless patience. But Biden did achieve the primary objective: He prevented the knock-out punch.

By the same token, the first goal of the Romney/Ryan campaign was to guard against an outright loss. They knew that Biden would attack and try to provoke Rep. Ryan. They knew that Biden would try to simultaneously prevent Rep. Ryan from getting across his message while also trying to get him to behave uncivilly. The Romney/Ryan folks knew their primary objective was for Rep. Ryan to appear serious, personable, knowledgeable, and mature. For them, getting lucky would have been to be able to cut through all the nonsense they knew Biden was going to throw at them, and deliver the coup de grace. They achieved their primary goal, but didn’t get lucky.

Thus, the Dems have staunched the arterial bleeding of their campaign, and live to fight another day, but the Republicans continue in a favored position, unharmed by last night’s debate.

On balance, it’s a modest “win” for Gov. Romney and Rep. Ryan, in that the event mostly just firmed up the status quo, which right now, favors them significantly.

It is sort of a nice bonus that the creature Biden was revealed to all of America for the slimy disease that it is.


7 posted on 10/12/2012 6:04:07 AM PDT by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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Biden looked a little... impaired during the debate. Was it just me or had our Vice President had a couple (or 6) before the debate?


8 posted on 10/12/2012 6:04:42 AM PDT by InABunkerUnderSF (Psalms 109:8)
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‘’Unexpected or inappropriate smiling, laughter, or excitement’’ is a classic symptom of schizophrenia.

The average voter does not have to have a degree in psychopathology to understand that something was wrong with Joe Biden last night. If the purpose of the debate was to determine which candidate was likelier to end up in a mental institution, Joe Biden won hands down. But if the purpose was to determine who would make a better vice-president of the United States, Paul Ryan had a decisive victory.


9 posted on 10/12/2012 6:07:05 AM PDT by Bluestocking
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11 posted on 10/12/2012 6:10:31 AM PDT by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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Joe Biden is a complete and total ass, who doesn’t have the slightest concept of when he is making a fool of himself. I bet Raddatz wanted so bad to pass him a note or give him a high sign to “Turn off the teeth, Joe”. I also wonder if the people who were coaching Biden non-stop for the debate for the last week had any idea he was going to pull that crap at debate time. Seems like they must have thought of every possible way Joe Biden could make a fool of himself and drilled him on it.


14 posted on 10/12/2012 6:16:37 AM PDT by Reddon
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Martha Raddatz lost the debate BIG TIME!!!!

The other loser was Joe Biden—he lost by default on his smirks and lies!

That leaves Ryan—the survivor by default—as the winner!


15 posted on 10/12/2012 6:17:28 AM PDT by Honorary Serb (Kosovo is Serbia! Free Srpska! Abolish ICTY!)
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16 posted on 10/12/2012 6:19:20 AM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto.)
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Despite Biden's rudeness, I think he handed Ryan his butt!! Joe was articulate, convincing and he made a very, very strong case for his side - IMHO. Ryan was ineffective in refuting Joe's half-truths and was too polite toward Joe and the biased and interpretive (to Ryan) moderator. Paul did not make the case for conservative fiscal policies; Joe did make the case for current Democrat policies.

Paul - we're dealing with Chicago thug style politicians. We need you to put the rabid lying dogs down. Paul - you're a nice guy and a wonk but nice guys will finish last in this race.

I'm a Christian conservative voter. Unfortunately, I saw Ryan as being out of his league last night. My concern is that many independents saw him the same way.

18 posted on 10/12/2012 6:25:56 AM PDT by JesusIsLord
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I was taken aback at how biden was yelling and wagging his finger at the moderator. I was wondering if he would have done that to a man and also wondering why his comments weren’t directed to Ryan, but rather the woman at the table...


22 posted on 10/12/2012 6:48:55 AM PDT by Suz in AZ
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Oh, SNAP.


23 posted on 10/12/2012 6:50:51 AM PDT by Lazamataz (WAAAAAAAAAHHHhhhhh.....)
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Awful debate. Biden’s smirks, use of the word MALARKEY, and constant interruptions were just too much. The one thing I wished Ryan would have hit on HARDER and would have shut Biden up would have been to hit hard on Harry Reid! Biden’s entire line of attack was the Republican House Obstruction. If I were Ryan, I would have pointed out SENATE OBSTRUCTION and SENATE TABLING OF BILLS!


24 posted on 10/12/2012 6:51:05 AM PDT by Eagle of Liberty (We the People are coming!!)
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That CNBC poll was an online poll, not a real poll. Later in the evening it had Biden ahead.

Of the two actual polls I’ve seen, Ryan won the CNN one and Biden won the CBS version of the same.

Personally, I think Biden was so offputting that Ryan wins by default.


26 posted on 10/12/2012 6:53:38 AM PDT by Longbow1969
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36 posted on 10/12/2012 2:52:22 PM PDT by dynachrome ("Our forefathers didn't bury their guns. They buried those that tried to take them.")
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