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Ghost of an over-confident Al Gore will haunt smirking Vice President Joe Biden.....
dailymail.co.uk ^ | 10/12/12 | Toby Harnden

Posted on 10/12/2012 6:39:43 AM PDT by Justaham

Original title:Ghost of an over-confident Al Gore will haunt smirking Vice President Joe Biden who tried too hard to make up for his boss' weakness . . . and was caught fibbing about the U.S. intelligence community
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Joe Biden came out swinging at Paul Ryan, flailing wildly and landing a few punches on his own jaw as well as his opponent's.

He showed the kind of spirit and populist anger that President Barack Obama was so conspicuously lacking and has cheered up many demoralised Democrats.

But Biden's performance here in Danville, Kentucky was both comical and self-defeating. Just as Al Gore sighed and rolled his eyes in 2000, so Biden smirked and guffawed.

His brief was to show the aggression that Obama so obviously lacked when the President went up against Mitt Romney last week. But as the dust settles today many will be left feeling that he went too far, tried too hard.

Many women and swing voters will have hated his condescending, swaggering display.

Perhaps the even bigger problem the Obama campaign will have in the coming days is that Biden, again just like Gore in 2000, repeatedly exaggerated and mischaracterised for effect.

And worse than Gore - who was caught in a series of small lies in 2000 - Biden was demonstrably untruthful in some big respects.

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2012debates; 2012veep; joebiden; paulryan; vpdebate

1 posted on 10/12/2012 6:39:49 AM PDT by Justaham
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To: Justaham

Clint Eastwood was right, Joe Biden is truly the intellectual of the democratic party.


2 posted on 10/12/2012 6:41:14 AM PDT by Hotlanta Mike (Resurrect the House Committee on Un-American Activities (HUAC)...before there is no America!)
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To: Justaham

Vice-president Biden’s closing statement:

You thought it was a joke and so you laughed, you laughed when I had said that losing you would make me flip my lid, right?
You know you laughed
I heard you laugh, you laughed, you laughed and laughed and then you left but now you know I’m utterly mad
And, they’re coming to take me away, ha, ha
They’re coming to take me away, ho, ho, hee, hee, ha, ha
To the happy home with trees and flowers and chirping birds
And basket weavers who sit and smile and twiddle their thumbs and toes
And they’re coming to take me away, ha, ha


3 posted on 10/12/2012 6:45:29 AM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: all armed conservatives)
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To: Justaham

Shots of Joe smiling. Laughing etc.

VoiceOver ( somber male voice): real unemployment at 14.7%. Food stamp dependency up 62%. National debt up 5 trillion to 16 trillion dollars. Etc.

Superimpose : Why are you laughing, Joe?


4 posted on 10/12/2012 6:47:32 AM PDT by TigerClaws
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To: Justaham

I think one mistake Biden made, was to turn off women voters, and trust me, that is big. Many undecided women tend to vote for whom they “like”, and Joe came across as unlikable last night, this will hurt them.


5 posted on 10/12/2012 6:49:21 AM PDT by Paradox (I want Obama defeated. Period.)
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To: Justaham

I could not stand to watch more than 10 minutes of it, Biden reminded me of the lefty’s I used to try and engage in serious debates. When they had no substantive comeback, they’d just give condescending smirks and laughs. At least he did not scream and go into hysterics like some do.

So in my opinion, Biden was just shoring up their base of lunatics and commies while (as the article says) turning off women and swing voters.


6 posted on 10/12/2012 6:49:53 AM PDT by redfreedom (Just a simpleton enjoying the freedoms a fly-over/red state has to offer.)
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To: Justaham
What this does, is put Obama on even more of the defensive. Whereas he was criticized for being timid and outmaneuvered by future-President Mitt Romney, Joey Biden tried to overcompensate and made a total ass of himself.

Now Barack Hussein Obama (mmm mmm mmm) has to "fight" (to appease his moonbat base), but also show restraint (to appease the rest of America).

I see a Romney landslide and a filibuster-proof congress for the next two years for the GOP.

7 posted on 10/12/2012 6:52:30 AM PDT by MuttTheHoople (Obama does not have the work ethic to be Anti-Christ.)
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To: Hotlanta Mike

8 posted on 10/12/2012 6:53:02 AM PDT by maggief
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To: Justaham

What an awesome article!

This is why I loved Ryan last night.

“Whereas Ryan advocated for Romney, Biden was blowing his own trumpet.”


9 posted on 10/12/2012 6:53:54 AM PDT by autumnraine (America how long will you be so deaf and dumb to the tumbril wheels carrying you to the guillotine?)
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To: Justaham

After blaming the intelligence community for Benghazi, Biden stated that “we will know when Iran has the bomb”. When asked how, he said “because we have the intelligence”. This was the perfect moment for Ryan to say “you mean the same intelligence you said failed you in Libya”?


10 posted on 10/12/2012 6:54:32 AM PDT by wayoverontheright
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To: Justaham

Just beneath that silly grin, is a delusional and dangerous man.


11 posted on 10/12/2012 6:57:47 AM PDT by allendale
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To: Justaham

You're just plain old Muttley, the snickering hound.

12 posted on 10/12/2012 6:57:55 AM PDT by Southside_Chicago_Republican (If liberty means anything at all, it means the right to tell people what they do not want to hear.)
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To: Hotlanta Mike

I kept thinking that Jeff Dunham was not having a good night and then I realized it was not Walter.

13 posted on 10/12/2012 6:59:03 AM PDT by pikachu (After Monday and Tuesday, even the calender goes W T F !)
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To: Hotlanta Mike

Biden just reminds me of Jack Nicholson’s portrayal of The Joker


14 posted on 10/12/2012 7:01:18 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: TigerClaws

It either that he was A) totally delusional, B) was in over his head and knew it, or C) he can laugh because he knows something we don’t.

(But some of us suspect.)


15 posted on 10/12/2012 7:02:06 AM PDT by hoagy62 ("Tyranny, like hell, is not easily conquered..."-Thomas Paine. 1776)
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To: Justaham
Biden, again just like Gore in 2000, repeatedly exaggerated and mischaracterised for effect.

Biden "forgot" that he voted for both the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq. Claimed last night that he supported neither. What a pant-load!

16 posted on 10/12/2012 7:02:52 AM PDT by kevao (Is your ocean any lower than it was four years ago?)
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To: Justaham
Twitter: media put off by the grinning/laughing jackass Biden

Weekly Standard’s Mark Hemingway: “Joe Biden’s laughing through talking about Iran sanctions?”

Washington Examiner’s Philip Klein: “Biden’s strategy seems to be to laugh at Ryan constantly. Will it work to infantalize Ryan, or backfire like Gore sighing?”

NBC’s David Gregory: “Biden’s smile is out of control.”

BuzzFeed’s Ben Smith: “So did Biden practice laughing at Ryan???”

ABC’s Rick Klein: “Biden on verge of breaking down in laughter when Ryan talks.”

Former Eric Cantor staffer Brad Dayspring: “Joe Biden needs to realize this isn’t a Senate Foreign Relations Hearing. His laughter and condescending attitude is a disaster.”

Radio host Neal Boortz: “Looking like Biden’s gameplan is to laugh his way through this.”

Townhall.com’s Guy Benson: “Will Biden laugh his ass off at the terrible economy, too?”

MSNBC’s S.E. Cupp: “Biden needs to laugh a little less through the Libya, Middle East, nuclear Iran segment.”

Washington Post’s Chris Cillizza: “Ok. I have decided. I find the Biden smile slightly unsettling.”

PBS’ Jeff Greenfield: “Biden has always had a smile that at times is really, really inappropriate.”

Washington Examiner’s Paul Bedard: “Can’t tell yet if Biden’s smirking, laughs, eye-rolling, head shaking, works for him or not against the oh-so-young looking eager Ryan.”

Former White House press secretary Ari Fleischer: “Biden is at risk of having his laugh come across like Gore’s sighs. He should knock it off.”

The New York Times’ Ashley Parker: “Biden’s grin is Chesire Cat caliber.”

Republican strategist Ron Bonjean: “Biden laughing does not come off with the intended effect. It is actually hurting him. Looks very condescending.”

Movie critic Roger Ebert: “Joe! Stop smiling and laughing!”

Washington Times’ Emily Miller: “Biden laughing when he disagrees with Ryan is so annoying. Like a child in time out.”

Washington Post’s Jennifer Rubin: “Biden’s laughing is losing the debate- obnoxious”

(Excerpt) Read more at politico.com ...

17 posted on 10/12/2012 7:02:56 AM PDT by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: Justaham

Biden is the ideal vice president for an administration of, by and for a group of thieves and beggars.


18 posted on 10/12/2012 7:04:17 AM PDT by The Duke
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To: Justaham

Plugs was smug.
They pumped him full of Joe’s Joker Juice before the debate.

I believe this was a planned tactic.

He wasn’t sent out to debate Ryan and win, he was sent out to prevent Ryan from scoring a big win.

They knew Joe couldn’t match Ryan in serious, factual debate so Joe’s job was to prevent Ryan from hitting his stride and coming away with debate win based on fact.

His secondary job was to frustrate Ryan and prevent him from appearing serious and knowledgeable.

In that respect, Joe acomplished his first objective but not the second. The morning after talk of the debate is more about Joe’s boorish behavior than Ryan’s professional demeanor and grasp of the issues.

But Joe overdid the mugging and interrupting to the point that this debate will find its place in history alongside the Al Gore Smirk and Stalk debate.


19 posted on 10/12/2012 7:08:01 AM PDT by Iron Munro (SPEIL)
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To: wayoverontheright
Biden stated that “we will know when Iran has the bomb”. When asked how, he said “because we have the intelligence”. This was the perfect moment for Ryan to say “you mean the same intelligence you said failed you in Libya”?

Not to mention that when they have the bomb, it will be too late!

20 posted on 10/12/2012 7:09:35 AM PDT by Rummyfan (Iraq: it's not about Iraq anymore, it's about the USA!)
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To: wayoverontheright
This was the perfect moment for Ryan to say “you mean the same intelligence you said failed you in Libya”?

I caught that too. That was a lobbed softball for Ryan and he didn't even see it cross the plate.

21 posted on 10/12/2012 8:02:05 AM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (Knowledge is knowing a tomato is a fruit; Wisdom is not putting it in a fruit salad.)
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To: Justaham
There is a noticeable pattern here... *************

GORE_FIRED1

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BIDEN_FIRED1

22 posted on 10/12/2012 8:11:01 AM PDT by Wings-n-Wind (The main things are the plain things!)
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To: Paradox

And Ryan came across as not only smart, polite but sympathetic as well. The expression on his face when Biden acted up just made the mom in me go “Awwww....”


23 posted on 10/12/2012 8:38:47 AM PDT by autumnraine (America how long will you be so deaf and dumb to the tumbril wheels carrying you to the guillotine?)
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To: Justaham
Many women and swing voters will have hated his condescending, swaggering display.

Just spoke to a young liberal - college student - member of the family. She said she didn't like what Biden did.

She was embarrassed.

She said I wouldn't like it if some conservative had acted such a disrespectful way - and I agreed with her. She was right. I suspect that the more gracious liberals weren't proud of the way Biden acted either. He was boorish - they know it.

24 posted on 10/12/2012 9:06:21 AM PDT by GOPJ (You only establish a feel for the line by having crossed it. - - Freeper One Name)
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