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White House: Obama and Biden were never aware of requests for more Benghazi security
Foreign Policy ^ | 12 Oct 12 | Josh Rogin

Posted on 10/12/2012 10:52:25 AM PDT by seanmerc

Vice President Joseph Biden speaks only for himself and President Barack Obama, and neither man was aware that U.S. officials in Libya had asked the State Department for more security before the Sept. 11 attack on the U.S. mission in Benghazi, a top White House official told The Cable.

Biden has come under fire for saying at Thursday night's debate, "We weren't told they wanted more security. We did not know they wanted more security there."

The Cable asked Deputy National Security Advisor for Communications Ben Rhodes whether Biden was speaking for the entire Obama administration, including the State Department, which acknowledged receiving multiple requests for more Libya security in the months before the attacks. Rhodes said that Biden speaks only for himself and the president and neither of them knew about the requests at the time.

(Excerpt) Read more at thecable.foreignpolicy.com ...


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1. Maybe they should attend their national security briefings a little more often.

2. Maybe they should be more involved in the actual responsibilities to which they were elected.

Feel free to add to the list. This is an outrage and the people should hold their leaders accountable. Either these guys are lying or they are detached, uninvolved, ineffective and neglectful of their most important responsibilities.

1 posted on 10/12/2012 10:52:31 AM PDT by seanmerc
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To: seanmerc
Either these guys are lying or they are detached, uninvolved, ineffective and neglectful of their most important responsibilities.

I vote all of the above.

2 posted on 10/12/2012 10:54:28 AM PDT by ImJustAnotherOkie (zerogottago)
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To: seanmerc

I think you covered it.


3 posted on 10/12/2012 10:54:46 AM PDT by Former Proud Canadian (Obamanomics-We don't need your stinking tar sands oil, we'll just grow algae.)
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To: seanmerc

3. Maybe he should take responsibility. After all, he is in charge.


4 posted on 10/12/2012 10:56:01 AM PDT by Gamecock
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To: seanmerc

Ahhh. The Obama Administration. Never take responsibility. It’s always someone else’s fault..

EVEN if it’s one of those pesky administrative branch that you are basically the CEO of that “knew.” Total rubbish.


5 posted on 10/12/2012 10:57:06 AM PDT by NYRepublican72
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To: seanmerc

The Administration put a drone over the site to watch the murders, but they didn’t put an F-16 over the site to prevent the murders.


6 posted on 10/12/2012 10:58:05 AM PDT by Uncle Miltie (You didn't build that. The private sector is doing fine. We tried our plan and it worked.)
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To: ImJustAnotherOkie
Lets look at the picture of the big boys and Hillary watching the Osama "assassination". Which person looks like he was photoshopped in??

Ahhhh...The Prez you say....

7 posted on 10/12/2012 10:58:11 AM PDT by Sacajaweau (r)
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To: seanmerc
Let's for the moment, give them the benefit of the doubt..and say that they weren't notified.

They need to release the names of the people they have fired for gross incompetence.

8 posted on 10/12/2012 10:58:17 AM PDT by ken5050 (Barack Obama: An empty suit sitting in an empty chair...)
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To: Former Proud Canadian
"Either these guys are lying or they are detached, uninvolved, ineffective and neglectful of their most important responsibilities."

"I vote all of the above."

"I think you covered it."

Except that Barry is a traitor.

9 posted on 10/12/2012 10:58:59 AM PDT by Carl Vehse
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To: seanmerc

This excuse is too lame..........

I suggest they immediately move to the Clinton era “I lied to my diary” excuse...........


10 posted on 10/12/2012 10:59:18 AM PDT by chriscraft
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To: seanmerc

Radditz was given the first question by the WH and they wanted the words “intelligence failure” to be heard loud and clear. That’s the cover story they chose to protect obama and Biden and Hillary.

And the press is being ordered to run with it just like Raddatz was ordered to inject it into the debate. Had anyone heard this excuse before the first question in last night’s debate?


11 posted on 10/12/2012 10:59:18 AM PDT by Terry Mross
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To: seanmerc

Time to throw Hillary under the bus, eh?


12 posted on 10/12/2012 10:59:18 AM PDT by Jess79
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To: seanmerc

Haven’t you heard? it was Bush’s fault


13 posted on 10/12/2012 10:59:22 AM PDT by wrench
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To: seanmerc

Maybe they should CARE that four of our citizens perished at the hands of terrorists, all because DerFuehrer didn’t want to offend the Muslims.


14 posted on 10/12/2012 11:00:08 AM PDT by fatnotlazy
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To: seanmerc

Obvious lie. If Bush had been president, he would have been accused of hating gay people.


15 posted on 10/12/2012 11:00:37 AM PDT by I want the USA back (We have got to defeat these marxist, jihadi-favoring redistributionists!)
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To: seanmerc
"1. Maybe they should attend their national security briefings a little more often."

Bingo!! Even if they weren't specifically notified of the requests, I'm assuming that had they attended the briefings, or even bothered to read them, that they would have been advised of all the attacks, demonstrations, threats, etc., that had transpired in Benghazi over the months leading up to the 9/11 attack. The continual security problems cited in those briefings should have triggered a concern for the safety of the people at the consulate, and any security conscious person, President or otherwise, would have asked if there was enough security to protect our people who were there. Obviously, Obama/Biden had too many other things on their minds than keeping Americans safe.

16 posted on 10/12/2012 11:01:11 AM PDT by mass55th (Courage is being scared to death - but saddling up anyway...John Wayne)
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To: seanmerc

Maybe they see a way to put Hillary on the hot seat if not taking her out of their circle of influence.


17 posted on 10/12/2012 11:01:27 AM PDT by noinfringers2
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To: seanmerc

“Obama and Biden were never aware of requests for more Benghazi security”

Believing that would require a willing suspension of disbelief.


18 posted on 10/12/2012 11:01:56 AM PDT by V_TWIN (obama=where there's smoke, there's mirrors)
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To: seanmerc
If one is inclined to believe Biden's line, then Biden may have inadvertently provided the very best reason for Americans to choose a leader whose primary background has been at the CEO level of an organization.

One of the requisites of leadership is knowing how to set up critical systems which protect and promote the organization in all its potentials for exposure, and then to monitor those systems to be certain they are working as intended.

The business of the United States of America is the most successful enterprise on behalf of liberty which ever existed. It needs a leader who understands that saying, "I didn't know," is an excuse, not a reason.

Perhaps the same line was used in the early 90's when the enemies of America infiltrated and attacked American interests, including the World Trade Center and repeated incidents following that, up and including the preparations and implementation of the 9/11 repeat of that dastardly deed.

It is not adequate now, and Biden has exposed a primary reason for new leadership!

19 posted on 10/12/2012 11:02:06 AM PDT by loveliberty2
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To: seanmerc

Wait just a minute. If this is true, then how can Biden accuse Ryan and the of preventing the additional by denying funding?


20 posted on 10/12/2012 11:02:13 AM PDT by johniegrad
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To: Jess79

Jumpin’ Joe sure tried to throw the intel community under the bus last night. Those guys must be fuming, because they tried to warn the “Administration,” but they were too busy fundraising to listen.

If this is true and the Hildebeast had an ounce of integrity/responsibility, she would resign immediately. Of course, that’s a pretty big “if.”


21 posted on 10/12/2012 11:02:48 AM PDT by seanmerc
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To: johniegrad

Ryan and the House


22 posted on 10/12/2012 11:03:34 AM PDT by johniegrad
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To: mass55th

Yes, you’re right!

Isn’t that what they tried to crucify Bush for—a warning in an intel briefing a month or two before 9/11?


23 posted on 10/12/2012 11:05:08 AM PDT by seanmerc
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To: Sacajaweau

Yep. 0bama wasn’t even involved in the decision to raid OBL’s hideout in Pakistan. I guess if you’re not involved in something you can avoid accountability and can blame someone else. It’s kind of like voting ‘present’; Leave it to others, just in case..


24 posted on 10/12/2012 11:05:27 AM PDT by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America
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To: seanmerc
And Obama bin Biden are so clueless that they think pleading ignorance of national security issues is a defense?

WTF do they think their job is?

25 posted on 10/12/2012 11:07:10 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (That was sarcasm, you moron.)
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To: johniegrad

Mike Makowitz of FoxNews Radio just commented on this connection (not knowing/accusing Repubs of denying funds)...if I heard correctly.


26 posted on 10/12/2012 11:07:18 AM PDT by Jane Long (Soli Deo Gloria!)
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To: seanmerc

They are setting up Hilliarly for the scape goat.

She had a history as first lady re hating guns near her, and she probably took that hatred with her to SOS.

So, whenever a embassy or outpost wanted more firepower and men to handle to the extra fire power, she would ignore the request or squash it.

This doesn’t excuse the empty chair pretender in the White House. He didn’t want to hear any bad news about his Islamo buddies.


27 posted on 10/12/2012 11:07:37 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (We are the 53%, who pay taxes and keep this country going inspite of the 47% rat moochers!)
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To: johniegrad

Which is one of the biggest smokescreens of all, as the State Department, just like every federal agency, has discretionary funds that they could’ve diverted to oh, say, providing the level of security that the situation in Libya warranted...if they wanted to.


28 posted on 10/12/2012 11:08:11 AM PDT by seanmerc
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From an Internet source: TWA800

"Likely under White House pressure, and without any new evidence, the FBI immediately shifted its storyline away from a missile to a bomb, and a month later, from a bomb to a center fuel tank explosion."

When they settle on an explosion in the Benghazi consulate central heating fuel tank.. that's it.

29 posted on 10/12/2012 11:08:15 AM PDT by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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To: johniegrad
If this is true, then how can Biden accuse Ryan and the of preventing the additional by denying funding?

You ask an excellent question.

30 posted on 10/12/2012 11:11:14 AM PDT by jersey117
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To: jersey117

I didn’t ask it very well, though.


31 posted on 10/12/2012 11:12:24 AM PDT by johniegrad
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To: seanmerc
The CIA is saying that all you communists in the White House are lying and all of the communists in the DOS are lying.

LLS

32 posted on 10/12/2012 11:14:47 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (OUR GOVERNMENT AND PRESS ARE NO LONGER TRUSTWORTHY OR DESERVING OF RESPECT!)
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To: Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America

Few Months ago when classified info was being given out by the WH it was said that Obuma would sit in on drone kill mission conferences on Tuesdays and Obuma would have the last say on who would make the kill list.

Obuma not involved yea right..


33 posted on 10/12/2012 11:15:03 AM PDT by Blu By U
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To: seanmerc

isn’t Obama a “veracious” consumer of data....

apparently not


34 posted on 10/12/2012 11:16:31 AM PDT by mike_9958
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To: Blu By U

So are those in the Obama Administration incompetent, liars or both?


35 posted on 10/12/2012 11:16:57 AM PDT by stocksthatgoup (ZERO DARK THIRTY (coming soon to an embassy near you))
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To: seanmerc

Obama is so lazy that he doesn’t care about anything but his only opinion of himself????


36 posted on 10/12/2012 11:17:01 AM PDT by zbogwan2
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To: stocksthatgoup

LIARS


37 posted on 10/12/2012 11:19:45 AM PDT by Blu By U
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To: seanmerc

The biggest travesty here is that there should be a reaction from our government, a reaction that has a punitive, unabashed retaliatory flavor. Though boots on the ground would preferable to me, this reaction doesn’t have to be military. The lack of a response is putting all our people overseas, civilians too, in danger.

What will deter them from doing this again? Apparently, there are no consequences. This administration even makes excuses for them.


38 posted on 10/12/2012 11:20:19 AM PDT by wayoverontheright
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To: seanmerc

Very odd that we were more aware of the facts before the President was.


39 posted on 10/12/2012 11:22:40 AM PDT by MayflowerMadam
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To: seanmerc
No see its the Republicans fault.

They wouldn't pass Obama's budget which had the needed funds in it to establish secure communications networks to the golf courses and the bars so these two could be kept in the loop..

40 posted on 10/12/2012 11:24:44 AM PDT by Mad Dawgg (If you're going to deny my 1st Amendment rights then I must proceed to the 2nd one...)
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To: seanmerc

When you have an organistaion named Martyrs of the Feb. 17th Revolution who are in actuality members of the Muslim Brotherhood guarding and American Embassy , I don’t care if there are a hundred thousand of them they do not have the safety of Americans as their primary goal.

Someone should be hanged for allowing that.


41 posted on 10/12/2012 11:25:16 AM PDT by Venturer
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To: seanmerc

Bush forgot to tell them.


42 posted on 10/12/2012 11:27:16 AM PDT by glorgau
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To: seanmerc

So I guess they must have fired the people who turned down the requests for security once they found out.


43 posted on 10/12/2012 11:27:52 AM PDT by DManA
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To: seanmerc
3. Maybe they should stop lying.

?4. Maybe they should STOP blaming people who are NOT allowed to answer back.

5. Maybe they should take responsibility for their mistakes.

44 posted on 10/12/2012 11:29:11 AM PDT by GOPJ (You only establish a feel for the line by having crossed it. - - Freeper One Name)
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http://www.upi.com/blog/2012/10/12/Transcript-full-video-of-Biden-and-Ryan-at-vice-presidential-debate-Part-one/7141350020822/?st

VICE PRESIDENT BIDEN: I will be very specific. Number one, the — this lecture on embassy security — the congressman here cut embassy security in his budget by $300 million below what we asked for, number one. So much for the embassy security piece.


45 posted on 10/12/2012 11:30:06 AM PDT by maggief
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To: seanmerc

A classic Limbaugh line applies:

“The buck never got here!”


46 posted on 10/12/2012 11:36:31 AM PDT by PhatHead
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To: seanmerc

This stuff is above Obama’s and Biden’s pay grade.


47 posted on 10/12/2012 11:36:52 AM PDT by Starstruck (Looking into the abyss.)
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To: seanmerc

“I didn’t know” is not a defense. Has any WH ever before used incompetence as an excuse for the deaths of embassy staff? Should Americans respond “Oh, alright then.” and gloss over this newly admitted “Choom-gang” incompetence?


48 posted on 10/12/2012 11:37:25 AM PDT by swamprebel (a Constitution once changed from Freedom, can never be restored.)
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To: maggief

embassy security budget-

I watched the (C-span) hearing Wed. the budget issue was addressed. The question was asked to Ms Lamb. She said funds were not an issue. They had the funds to support added security.

Did anyone else hear that?


49 posted on 10/12/2012 11:38:36 AM PDT by Blu By U
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To: seanmerc

Biden was off in a corner picking lint from his belly button and hussein was eating ice cream. Give them a break. Priorities, man, priorities.


50 posted on 10/12/2012 11:42:49 AM PDT by bgill
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