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142nd Anniversary of Gen. Lees death
Canda Free Press ^ | October 12, 2012 | Calvin E. Johnson, Jr.

Posted on 10/12/2012 11:00:08 AM PDT by BigReb555

America mourned the death of Gen. Robert E. Lee on Wednesday, October 12, 1870 and Friday, October 12th marks the 142nd anniversary of his death.

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Every year, the Lee Chapel at Washington and Lee University in Lexington, Virginia presents a lecture and special events commemorating the Washington College presidency of Robert E. Lee on the anniversary of his death.

On Monday, October 8, 2012, the college chapel will present a book signing beginning at 10:30 am, followed by an Address at 12:15 pm in the auditorium. A program commemorating the 142th anniversary of Lee's death will feature Jeffry D. Wert, speaking on "Lee and the Rebirth of an Army: From Seven Days to Gettysburg." See details at: http://www.wlu.edu/x56830.xml

America mourned the death of Gen. Robert E. Lee on Wednesday, October 12, 1870 and Friday, October 12th marks the 142nd anniversary of his death.

Robert E. Lee, son of Light Horse “Harry” Lee of Revolutionary War fame and Anne Hill Carter Lee, distinguished himself as an exceptional officer and combat engineer in the United States Army for 32 years and Commanded the legendary Army of Northern Virginia for the Confederacy during the War Between the States. He was also a top honored student at the United States Military Academy at West Point where he would serve as Superintendent in 1852.

General Lee died at his home at Lexington, Virginia at 9:30 AM on October 12, 1870. His last great deed came after the War Between the States when he accepted the presidency of Washington College, now Washington and Lee University. He saved the financially troubled college and helped many young people further their education. Returning home from a church meeting, Robert E. Lee sat at the supper table and was about to say grace. The general could not say a word and slumped down in his chair. It was believed that he had a stroke.

His condition seemed hopeless when a doctor told him, "General, you must make haste and get well---Traveller--- has been standing too long in his stable and needs exercise." Lee could only shake his head as he knew he would never again ride his beloved horse.

The rains and flooding were the worse of Virginia's history on the day General Lee died. On Wednesday, October 12, 1870, in the presence of his family, Lee quietly passed away.

The church bells rang as the sad news passed through Washington College, Virginia Military Institute and the town of Lexington. School Cadet's carried the remains of the old soldier to Washington Chapel where he lay in state and would be buried.

Memorial meetings were held throughout the South and as far North as New York. At Washington College in Lexington eulogies were delivered by: Reverend Pemberton, Reverend W.S. White--Stonewall Jackson's Pastor and Reverend J. William Jones. Former Confederate President Jefferson Davis brought the eulogy in Richmond, Virginia. Lee was also eulogized in Great Britain.

“Duty, then is the sublimest word in our language. Do your duty in all things. You cannot do more; you should never wish to do less”---Robert E. Lee.

The War Between the States Sesquicentennial, 150th Anniversary, runs 2011 through 2015. The Georgia Division Sons of Confederate Veterans joins the nation in remembering this historic time in our nation’s history. See information at: http://www.150wbts.org/

Gen. Douglas MacArthur once said, “Old soldier’s don’t die; they just fade away”!

Let’s not allow the memory of our nation’s heroes to fade away!

1 posted on 10/12/2012 11:00:10 AM PDT by BigReb555
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To: BigReb555

I understand your wanting to carry the torch for whatshisname, but your writing is just not that good for you to post it twice.


2 posted on 10/12/2012 11:19:37 AM PDT by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: BigReb555

Stopped by Vicksburg last week. They’re having a re-enactment in a week or so...may be this weekend. I was told the re-enactors will stay in character and at night you can go into the camps and talk with them. If I could afford it I’d take a tour of all the battlegrounds. I’ve been to a few. Shiloh is the most emotional for me.

As for mourning the death of Lee, I still mourn.


3 posted on 10/12/2012 11:22:43 AM PDT by Terry Mross
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To: BigReb555

My favorite Lee story, as told by the National Geographic:

Lee, the epitome of the image of the noble, chivalric cavalier, accepted the loss of the quest for Southern independence with extraordinary grace. With so much of the South wantonly destroyed, he, more so than the vast majority of embittered and vengeful Southerners, knew that the war ended with much more than Northern victory and reunification.

Through victory an entirely new social order was to be established that would alter the relationship between the races forever. Unlike so many other Southerners, Lee embraced the new order. After peace had been achieved through unconditional surrender, the South became a vast, heavily occupied military zone with black Union soldiers seemingly everywhere.

One Sunday at St. Paul’s Episcopal Church in Richmond, a well-dressed, lone black man, whom no one in the community—white or black—had ever seen before, had attended the service, sitting unnoticed in the last pew.

Just before communion was to be distributed, he rose and proudly walked down the center aisle through the middle of the church where all could see him and approached the communion rail, where he knelt. The priest and the congregation were completely aghast and in total shock.

No one knew what to do…except General Lee. He went to the communion rail and knelt beside the black man and they received communion together—and then a steady flow of other church members followed the example he had set.

After the service was over, the black man was never to be seen in Richmond again. It was as if he had been sent down from a higher place purposefully for that particular occasion.

Today, and deservingly so, Lee is honored throughout the country. Only Washington, Jefferson, and Lincoln exceed him in monuments and memorials.


4 posted on 10/12/2012 11:30:54 AM PDT by Lee'sGhost (Johnny Rico picked the wrong girl!)
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To: BigReb555

God bless Robert E. Lee, a true gentleman.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xvIU6VQAWpo&feature=related


5 posted on 10/12/2012 11:40:44 AM PDT by NTHockey (Rules of engagement #1: Take no prisoners)
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To: Lee'sGhost
Nice story, although the earliest known appearance of it, from 1905, puts a rather different spin on things:
"NEGRO COMMUNED AT ST. PAUL'S CHURCH," CONFEDERATE VETERAN, 13 (AUGUST 1905): 360. "Col. T. L. Broun, of Charleston, W. Va., writes of having been present at St. Paul's Church, Richmond, Va., just after the war when a negro marched to the communion table ahead of the congregation. His account of the event is as follows:

Two months after the evacuation of Richmond business called me to Richmond for a few days, and on a Sunday morning in June, 1865, I attended St. Paul's Church. Dr. Minnegerode [sic] preached. It was communion day; and when the minister was ready to administer the holy communion, a negro in the church arose and advanced to the communion table. He was tall, well-dressed, and black. This was a great surprise and shock to the communicants and others present. Its effect upon the communicants was startling, and for several moments they retained their seats in solemn silence and did not move, being deeply chagrined at this attempt to inaugurate the "new regime" to offend and humiliate them during their most devoted Church services. Dr. Minnegerode [sic] was evidently embarrassed.

General Robert E. Lee was present, and, ignoring the action and presence of the negro, arose in his usual dignified and self-possessed manner, walked up the aisle to the chancel rail, and reverently knelt down to partake of the communion, and not far from the negro. This lofty conception of duty by Gen. Lee under such provoking and irritating circumstances had a magic effect upon the other communicants (including the writer), who went forward to the communion table.

By this action of Gen. Lee the services were conducted as if the negro had not been present. It was a grand exhibition of superiority shown by a true Christian and great soldier under the most trying and offensive circumstances."


6 posted on 10/12/2012 11:57:14 AM PDT by Bubba Ho-Tep ("More weight!"--Giles Corey)
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To: Lee'sGhost

He ain’t being honored round these parts, (New Jersey). Happy to know he’s still dead.


7 posted on 10/12/2012 12:01:37 PM PDT by jmacusa (Political correctness is cultural Marxism. I'm not a Marxist.)
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To: jmacusa

Was that necessary?


8 posted on 10/12/2012 12:04:53 PM PDT by Wyrd bi ful ard
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To: BigReb555
A truly inspiring gentleman--still revered in Ohio, generations after his death. My great uncle had pictures of General Grant & General Lee on the wall of his smoking room, when I was a boy, with the huge picture of Lee the more prominent, even though Grant was from the neighboring Southern Ohio County.

Thank you for reminding us of this noble Virginian, from a family that contributed so very much to the very existence of American Independence.

William Flax

9 posted on 10/12/2012 12:12:10 PM PDT by Ohioan
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To: Wyrd bið ful aræd
Is the whole article necessary? Venerating a man responsible for the death of hundreds of thousands of Americans in the worst war this nation ever fought?
10 posted on 10/12/2012 12:15:58 PM PDT by jmacusa (Political correctness is cultural Marxism. I'm not a Marxist.)
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To: jmacusa

Perhaps one should remember that General Lee did not start that war. Like millions of others, he was drawn into it by several factors not under their control. Like the others, Robert E. Lee was fighting for what he believed in and that was and is an acceptable endeavor for that time. In my opinion, your comment is caustic, ill advised and belligerent. That being said, I suspect that Robert E. Lee, had he heard it, would defend your right to say it and forgive you for having done so.

He, sir, was a gentleman.


11 posted on 10/12/2012 12:24:25 PM PDT by tenthirteen
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To: jmacusa
I'm with you: he was an officer of the United States, sworn to defend our country and its Constitution. Had he continued to serve the United States, the war would have ended years and hundreds of thousands of casualties earlier.

He chose to use his talents to betray his country and to prolong the death and suffering of millions. I don't mourn his death - I mourn the irreplaceable men, Northern and Southern, lost because of his treason.

12 posted on 10/12/2012 12:24:49 PM PDT by Chainmail (A simple rule of life: if you can be blamed, you're responsible.)
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To: jmacusa
You have a very strange interpretation of history. Virginia did not seek the War; Lee did not seek the War. Lee only invaded the North, in 1962, as a tactical measure, after Virginia had been under bloody attack for many months.

You completely beg the Constitutional questions--still unresolved;--and thus which side--if either--caused the bloodshed.

General Grant, the Union General who received Lee's eventual surrender, venerated Lee even at that time--and personally interposed himself, to prevent a mean spirited plan to go after Lee, thereafter.

Your mean spirited comments do not serve any Conservative purpose, in today's very dicey times. We need to pull together to fight the current attempts to subvert what still remains of American principles in Washington.

William Flax

13 posted on 10/12/2012 12:30:44 PM PDT by Ohioan
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To: Chainmail; jmacusa

Did either of you once post under the name Reagan Man? He was the biggest Lee-hater on this board.


14 posted on 10/12/2012 12:36:04 PM PDT by Fiji Hill (Deo Vindice!)
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To: Ohioan

I thought Joshua Chamberlain accepted Lee’s surrender.


15 posted on 10/12/2012 12:36:53 PM PDT by mortal19440
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To: jmacusa
So the Civil War, and every casualty it incurred...Is Robert E. Lee's fault?

Thats simply not logical.

16 posted on 10/12/2012 12:38:51 PM PDT by Wyrd bi ful ard
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To: mortal19440

Grant accepted the surrender, and returned to Lee’s Army, their personal arms. There are photos of the event in the history books.


17 posted on 10/12/2012 12:41:08 PM PDT by Ohioan
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To: Fiji Hill
Nope. Just don't respect a man who violates his oath and takes up arms against his nation.

I wouldn't call myself a "Lee hater". I just don't respect the guy and I am not inclined to venerate his memory.

18 posted on 10/12/2012 12:41:19 PM PDT by Chainmail (A simple rule of life: if you can be blamed, you're responsible.)
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To: Chainmail

Lee WAS defending the Constitution.

Of course now we’re all slaves. How’s that working for y’all in Joisy?


19 posted on 10/12/2012 12:42:21 PM PDT by Romulus
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To: Chainmail; jmacusa
Did either of you have ancestors in the civil war?

I had four, all fought for the union, one of which fought in nearly every major battle in the eastern theatre and was WIA.

And I still have no problem whatsoever honoring General Lee as a gentleman of deep conviction, faith, fortitude, and military brilliance. He did not take up arms for Virginia willy-nilly -- his decision was the result much thought and prayer. He did his duty according to his own conscience, and nothing less.

20 posted on 10/12/2012 12:47:42 PM PDT by Wyrd bi ful ard
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To: NTHockey
Although I was born in California, I grew up at Ft. Eustis, Virginia, and, consider myself a Southerner. I also lived in Humble, Texas, for 20 years. In fact, by choice, I've always tried to live where the Southern influence is strongest.

In my estimation, Lee was one of this country's greatest Americans. It saddens me whenever I consider his death and the unfair way the North has chosen to remember him!

Fortunately, during my formative years, I was heavily influenced by the most excellent Virginia public schools!

21 posted on 10/12/2012 12:48:09 PM PDT by cpa4you (CPA4YOU)
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To: Chainmail

“Just don’t respect a man who violates his oath and takes up arms against his nation...”

Lee RESIGNED his commission in the United States Army many months before being ASKED to accept one in the Confederate Army. He only accepted when it became evident his home state, and relatives and neighbors, were to be subjected to Northern Aggression.

The Constitutional issues raised by the war, have yet to be resolved...The existence of the 10th ammendment is the hope these may yet be resolved through rule of law..or so I pray.


22 posted on 10/12/2012 12:52:57 PM PDT by mo (If you understand, no explanation is needed. If you don't understand, no explanation is possible.)
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To: Ohioan

I understand that Grant did the initial agreement, but look at the following link: http://www.military-quotes.com/forum/salute-fallen-south-t32529.html


23 posted on 10/12/2012 12:53:44 PM PDT by mortal19440
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To: Ohioan

You have to understand, from his point of view it is OK to deny Southern WHITE people THEIR freedom to come and go as their states so chose, but not OK to deny freedom to a people sold by their own people into slavery, an institution (even if wrongly so) deemed LEGAL by the United States of America.


24 posted on 10/12/2012 12:54:51 PM PDT by Lee'sGhost (Johnny Rico picked the wrong girl!)
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To: Ohioan
General Grant, the Union General who received Lee's eventual surrender, venerated Lee even at that time--and personally interposed himself, to prevent a mean spirited plan to go after Lee, thereafter.

Venerated is a bit strong. I think it's safe to say that Grant respected Lee, both as an opponent and as a fellow officer.

25 posted on 10/12/2012 12:55:21 PM PDT by Delhi Rebels (There was a row in Silver Street - the regiments was out.)
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To: jmacusa

I am related to General Lee from his mother’s side of the family (Salter). This was an unnecessarily rude remark.


26 posted on 10/12/2012 12:59:50 PM PDT by texgal (end no-fault divorce laws return DUE PROCESS & EQUAL PROTECTION to ALL citizens))
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To: mortal19440
Thank you for the link. What I am referring to was the intial meeting in the Court House, not the procedural formalities that followed, with respect to the actual numbers involved.

Certainly General Chamberlain deserves credit for his behavior, also.

William Flax

27 posted on 10/12/2012 1:00:51 PM PDT by Ohioan
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To: Ohioan

You are correct. Having worked on Chamberlain’s house in Brunswick ME, I am a big Fan and tend to give him a lot of credit for his efforts. I am still impressed with the way he treated the Confederates at the Court House. Have a great weekend.


28 posted on 10/12/2012 1:08:41 PM PDT by mortal19440
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To: Lee'sGhost
I understand fanaticism, very well. I confront it in many articles at my web site.

What I do not understand is why anyone who claims to oppose Marxism, would take a tack denouncing General Lee on the anniversary of his death, when most of us are deeply involved in trying to rescue America from the present descent into Marxist Socialism.

To most of us, an honorable Virginia gentleman, like Robert E. Lee, epitomizes the leadership we so sorely need today. We do not need a revival of the hated rhetoric of Karl Marx's pen pal, Thad Stevens. (See, for example, Civil War, Reconstruction & Creating Hate In America Today.)

William Flax

29 posted on 10/12/2012 1:09:10 PM PDT by Ohioan
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To: mortal19440

There is a statue there of Chamberlain thats looks like he is dribbling an invisible basketball, right?


30 posted on 10/12/2012 1:11:39 PM PDT by Wyrd bi ful ard
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To: mortal19440
Thanks. I am going to sign off, here, now. Have a great weekend, yourself.

Hope that Maine swings to the Right, this year!

31 posted on 10/12/2012 1:12:06 PM PDT by Ohioan
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To: Bubba Ho-Tep

Well, I admit I gave the story credence because I first heard it on the Discovery Channel...and given their liberal slant to history I figured it had to be true. I mean, no way they put a positive spin on Lee unless it was true.

Given that the original account was written 35 years after the supposed incident, and that it appears the writer was trying to paint Lee with a “modern” racist brush, I question the story’s validity altogether. The idea that Lee would be the only person in church to go out of his way to initiate denigration is totally inconsistent with everything known about the man.

As Jamie and Adam would say, this myth is busted.

By my count the score is now Bubba Ho-Tep 1; Lee’sGhost 3,635.

Congratulations!


32 posted on 10/12/2012 1:17:30 PM PDT by Lee'sGhost (Johnny Rico picked the wrong girl!)
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To: BigReb555

thank you for a good read

I’ve not read the comments yet nor have I seen who posted yet but I’m sure the usual troll idiots will be on you for posting this

Shame that even back then and during the war Lee was still respected and honored, today the lack of class and the high ignorance shows just how far this country has gone down.

RIP General Lee


33 posted on 10/12/2012 1:17:54 PM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: Wyrd bið ful aræd

Grant, Sherman, Lincoln and many others respected Lee back then , hell even during the war he was respected by many north and south.

Look at today and the idiots which come out on threads like this making themselves look small and ignorant.

Shame respect and class has gone for some people.


34 posted on 10/12/2012 1:21:06 PM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: Ohioan

I don’t understand it either. But it’s funny that these people use the exact same tactic that libs use when it comes to trying to discuss it with them.

YOU’RE RACIST! In their little minds, the only possible reason to argue that there were legitimate reasons that caused the WBTS that had nothing to do with slavery is racism.

It makes their heads explode when I point out the war could not possibly be about freedom when you consider the truth and the hypocrisy that by denying secession, the Union and Lincoln were denying FREEDOM. The lack of common sense necessary it takes to ignore those facts boggles the mind.


35 posted on 10/12/2012 1:27:02 PM PDT by Lee'sGhost (Johnny Rico picked the wrong girl!)
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To: BigReb555

pfl


36 posted on 10/12/2012 1:38:51 PM PDT by outofsalt ("If History teaches us anything it's that history rarely teaches us anything")
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To: Lee'sGhost

For he will smile
And give you, with unflinching courtesy,
Prayers, trappings, letters, uniforms and orders,
Photographs, kindness, valor and advice,
And do it with such grace and gentleness
That you will know you have the whole of him
Pinned down, mapped out, easy to understand—
And so you have.

All things except the heart

The heart he kept himself, that answers all.
For here was someone who lived all his life
In the most fierce and open light of the sun,
Wrote letters freely, did not guard his speech,
Listened and talked with every sort of man,
And kept his heart a secret to the end
From all the picklocks of biographers.

ARMY OF NORTHERN VIRGINIA
by Steven Vincent Benét
(1898-1943)


37 posted on 10/12/2012 2:24:00 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (Take two Aspirin and call me in November - Obama for Hindmost.)
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To: jmacusa; Reagan Man

38 posted on 10/12/2012 2:30:12 PM PDT by Fiji Hill (Deo Vindice!)
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To: jmacusa
Venerating a man responsible for the death of hundreds of thousands of Americans in the worst war this nation ever fought?

Sounds like you're talking about Lincoln, not Lee.

39 posted on 10/12/2012 5:16:50 PM PDT by Fast Moving Angel (A moral wrong is not a civil right: No religious sanction of an irreligious act.)
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To: Fast Moving Angel; jmacusa

Lincoln only responded to the lunatic treachery of the slavers. And lee a “good little soldier” who just followed orders.


40 posted on 10/12/2012 7:26:02 PM PDT by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: tenthirteen

A ‘gentleman who waged war on his own country? A gentleman who fought a war so Southern plutocrats could maintain slavery? Jeez your stands aren’t very high.


41 posted on 10/12/2012 11:35:37 PM PDT by jmacusa (Political correctness is cultural Marxism. I'm not a Marxist.)
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To: Fiji Hill
Slavery existed in 1776 and as it did in 1861. ''Americas Original Sin'' It didn't take war to end it the North.
42 posted on 10/12/2012 11:41:52 PM PDT by jmacusa (Political correctness is cultural Marxism. I'm not a Marxist.)
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To: Wyrd bið ful aræd
I had an ancestor in the Army of The Potomac too.Sorry but I don't see how this ‘â€&;gentlemanâ€Â™Ã¢Â€Â™ could turn against his country and fight to preserve slavery. What if Lee had been successful, what would America look like today?’’ Military brilliance’’? How brilliant is it to go to war against a numerically superior foe who could produce more of the weapons to fight a war, and how brilliant is it to go to war with virtually no navy to speak of? One of the Norths first moves was to blockade Southern ports? After being defeated at Gettysburg Vicksburg surrendered the next day. At that point the Confederacy was cut in two and it gave the Union control of the Mississippi River. From that moment the war was lost for the Confederacy. A smart man would have realized that. Instead the war dragged on for two more bloody years. Some brilliance.>
43 posted on 10/13/2012 12:01:13 AM PDT by jmacusa (Political correctness is cultural Marxism. I'm not a Marxist.)
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To: Fast Moving Angel

Who fired first?


44 posted on 10/13/2012 12:03:38 AM PDT by jmacusa (Political correctness is cultural Marxism. I'm not a Marxist.)
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To: texgal

Madame, Lee himself was ‘a rude remark’’. The man took up arms against his own country. Ever give any thought as to what America would look like today if Lee had prevailed?


45 posted on 10/13/2012 12:07:19 AM PDT by jmacusa (Political correctness is cultural Marxism. I'm not a Marxist.)
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To: Fast Moving Angel

Nope, I’m talking about Lee. I would imagine the folks today in Gettysburg might be feeling differently than you do. And what is it with you Confederates anyway? America and the Stars and Stripes not good enough for you you have to keep venerating a Dixiecrat?


46 posted on 10/13/2012 12:11:42 AM PDT by jmacusa (Political correctness is cultural Marxism. I'm not a Marxist.)
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To: Ohioan

Lee wasn’t drawn’’ into anything. He only had to remain loyal to the Union, to America. He made a choice, a bad one. Nobody was holding a gun to his head. Lee invaded the North in 1962? Wow. How did I miss that bit of history? ‘’Mean spirited’’? I should think the folks in Gettysburg today aren’t singing his praises. And how is condemning a Dixiecrat equate to being less of a Conservative? And’’ pulling together’’ to fight the current state of affairs in the nation? Sounds rather ironic in light of what Lincoln was trying to do.


47 posted on 10/13/2012 12:24:01 AM PDT by jmacusa (Political correctness is cultural Marxism. I'm not a Marxist.)
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To: Wyrd bið ful aræd

When you start wars, yes, the blood is on your hands.


48 posted on 10/13/2012 12:26:01 AM PDT by jmacusa (Political correctness is cultural Marxism. I'm not a Marxist.)
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To: Ohioan

Beleave the surrender meeting was at the McLean house at Appomatox, not the court house


49 posted on 10/13/2012 4:23:11 AM PDT by X Fretensis
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To: mortal19440

General Grant accepted General Lee’s formal surrender of the Army of Northern Virginia. The actual surrender ceremony,where arms were stacked and flags furled,followed a few day later.
General Chamberlain was U.S. Army officer charged with receiving the surrender of the ANV and presided over the f surrender ceremony. General John Gordon CSA was in charge of the actual surrender of the ANV at this surrender ceremony. General Lee had departed the area a day or so earlier.


50 posted on 10/13/2012 4:31:48 AM PDT by X Fretensis
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