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Libya Attack Gains Steam as Issue in Race for President
New York Times ^ | October 12, 2012 | By PETER BAKER and TRIP GABRIEL

Posted on 10/12/2012 11:35:11 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer

WASHINGTON — The Obama administration’s handling of the Libya attack has opened up a new front in the presidential campaign just weeks before Election Day, as Republicans seize on it to question the president’s performance as commander in chief.

The dispute over the episode escalated after Vice President Joseph R. Biden Jr. said during the debate on Thursday night that “we weren’t told” that Americans on the ground wanted security bolstered, despite testimony that requests were made to and turned down by the administration. Mitt Romney’s campaign on Friday accused the vice president of trying “to mislead the American public.”

For President Obama, who had counted on foreign policy as a political strength, the issue has put him on the defensive, while Republicans who had focused on the economy now see a chance to undercut his credibility with the public on national security.

The political back-and-forth over Libya comes as the administration tries to get a more definitive picture on the Benghazi attack and figure out a potential response. An investigation is looking into what was known in advance and how the government acted.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: coverup; derelictionofduty; election2012; hillaryunderthebus; impeach; journalism; keystonekops; libya
“Look, if we’re hit by terrorists, we’re going to call it for what it is: a terrorist attack.”

-Paul Ryan, VP Debate

1 posted on 10/12/2012 11:35:22 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

If they had some great Intel information of getting Osama Bin Laden ?
Why then ?
Was the Intel flawed in Benghazi attacks ?


2 posted on 10/12/2012 11:37:36 AM PDT by American Constitutionalist
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Is it possible the pres and VP were not informed of the truth? This would point to Hillary. The so-called Intellegence BELONGED to Hillary!


3 posted on 10/12/2012 11:39:29 AM PDT by RitaOK ( VIVA CHRISTO REY)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

The biggest travesty here is that there should be a reaction from our government, a reaction that has a punitive, unabashed retaliatory flavor. Though boots on the ground would preferable to me, this reaction doesn’t have to be military. The lack of a response is putting all our people overseas, civilians too, in danger.

What will deter them from doing this again? Apparently, there are no consequences. This administration even makes excuses for them.


4 posted on 10/12/2012 11:39:49 AM PDT by wayoverontheright
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

IIRC it wasn’t just Republicans who were questioning the President’s performance in this area.


5 posted on 10/12/2012 11:42:31 AM PDT by GSWarrior
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

I was wondering, The New York Times.. WOW!

The last sentence in the above article, is the beginning of the escape clause.. It’s under investigation..think Fast and Furious.. Now it makes sense.. :)


6 posted on 10/12/2012 11:43:41 AM PDT by carlo3b (Less Government, more Fiber..)
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To: American Constitutionalist

The LIVE truth unfolded in real time, in the belly of the State Dept., having nothing to do with a California video.

So who came up with this CA video/protest theme becoming the explanation? Did Hillary not view the film or a replay of the live video feed?

Amazing.


7 posted on 10/12/2012 11:44:56 AM PDT by RitaOK ( VIVA CHRISTO REY)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
Obama/Biden are going to lose this election...

No, it's not being over confident, or counting the chickens before they are hatched...

Rush Limbaugh: " web of deceit "

Thanks to old Joe this is bring brought right back to America's attention:

** " The dispute over the episode escalated after Vice President Joseph R. Biden Jr. said during the debate on Thursday night that “we weren’t told” that Americans on the ground wanted security bolstered, despite testimony that requests were made to and turned down by the administration. Mitt Romney’s campaign on Friday accused the vice president of trying “to mislead the American public.” **

The Dynasty of Deceit


So Joe ? Nancy Pelosi ? ... if there is no there, THERE ? and you guy's didn't know.... how then ? can you accuse and blame the Republicans trying to cut the budget for the funding for the security at those US Embassies ?

You know how Democrats you can do this ?
You know how Nancy Pelosi you can do this ?


Because ?


YOU LIE !

8 posted on 10/12/2012 11:45:14 AM PDT by American Constitutionalist
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
How is it ?

When Joe Wilson said " YOU LIE " during Obama's speech before Congress and said that Joe Wilson was out of order, rude, so on and so on.... but ? Cheered and encourage Joe Biden on to do the same ?
9 posted on 10/12/2012 11:47:43 AM PDT by American Constitutionalist
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To: American Constitutionalist

If they had some great Intel information of getting Osama Bin Laden ? Why then ? Was the Intel flawed in Benghazi attacks?

Not to mention the fact that later in the same debate the VP insinuated that they would know when the Iranians had a atomic missile posing a threat. Surely he must have been talking about a different intelligence agency?

10 posted on 10/12/2012 11:48:21 AM PDT by kempster
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

I wish more details were available, like where did the weapons used in benghazi attack come from? Were they US supplied weapons. Is this Fast and Furious: MiddleEast?


11 posted on 10/12/2012 11:50:42 AM PDT by swamprebel (a Constitution once changed from Freedom, can never be restored.)
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To: American Constitutionalist

“If they had some great Intel information of getting Osama Bin Laden ?
Why then ?
Was the Intel flawed in Benghazi attacks ?”

Let me guess. Maybe the intel information that led to Bin Laden was developed during the Bush administration, and the 0bama administration is not deveoping new intel because they kill rather than capture terrorists.


12 posted on 10/12/2012 11:50:52 AM PDT by forgotten man (forgotten man)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

I wondered if this story would get legs.

Has it ever!

Will there be some sort of Friday info dump?


13 posted on 10/12/2012 11:53:16 AM PDT by don-o (He will not share His glory and He will NOT be mocked! Blessed be the name of the Lord forever.)
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To: don-o

Legs like on a centipede...


14 posted on 10/12/2012 11:56:37 AM PDT by Stayfree (Find out how Obama is destroying America at White House Commie.com!!)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

If Obama had to clear it with Valerie Jarrett to go after Bin Laden, maybe he had to clear it with her to do something to help in Libya. Maybe the screwup is that he’s incapable of making a tough decision.


15 posted on 10/12/2012 12:01:37 PM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

“...talk about “a day late and a dollar short” as my dear old grandad used to say...


16 posted on 10/12/2012 12:03:17 PM PDT by mo (If you understand, no explanation is needed. If you don't understand, no explanation is possible.)
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To: carlo3b

The damming difference between Benghazi and F&F is LIVE video, in real time, of the truth. The voices and the filming ARE the ONLY legitimate source of legitimate INTELLIGENCE.

Who was the first to charactorize the consulate attack as a reactionary protest to the CA cartoon video? Either, or............

1. Neither Hillary nor Obama viewed the on-sight, real time video for days and days.

2. They saw the video, but buried their knowledge of the LIVE video’s existence, and the truth and accuracy that it contained for a reason.

3. The mysterious origin of the protest/video theme was already out ofbthe barn.


17 posted on 10/12/2012 12:03:38 PM PDT by RitaOK ( VIVA CHRISTO REY)
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To: RitaOK

The Clinton Legacy will bury, Barry.. Bill and Hitlery, will not take the fall, which is where this is going.. PASS THE POPCORN.. HA!


18 posted on 10/12/2012 12:07:27 PM PDT by carlo3b (Less Government, more Fiber..)
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To: RitaOK; All

Rita, I just posted this on another thread:

WOW! I heard Lamb say she was watching the attack - LIVE - but I thought it was from on-site cameras at the consulate .. not a drone.

And if they had time to launch a drone .. what amount of advance knowledge did they have that the attack was going to take place ..???

And .. if they knew it was going to take place .. why would they just watch and not do anything to save our Ambassador and his staff member ..??? Plus the two Seals who tried to come to the rescue of the Ambassador - but were caught in the melee. To watch and do nothing was CRIMINAL.

For me .. I still can’t shake the idea that it was the Obama/Biden stooges who planned and executed the making of the “video”, with the objective of having a ready-made excuse for the terrorist attack the stooges already knew was coming. I’m even going to go so far as to say I believe it may have been a Jarrett/Axelrod operation .. in order to make Obama look unconnected with the attack .. unconnected to another “terrorist attack” upon America on a 9/11.

My premise is reached because immediately both Obama and Hillary made this statement, “... We had nothing to do with this video”. Hmmmmm ..?? Both of them said it continually, even spending $70,000 to produce a commercial to espouse the idea “we had nothing to do with the ‘video’”. Geeeee .. is somebody protesting too much ..??

Also, as soon as the “film maker” was arrested - I was even more convinced of the admin’s involvement .. because I questioned .. was this action a way to hide the guy from the media ..?? And/or, to keep the film maker from exposing the fact the “video” was a ruse from the get-go!!


19 posted on 10/12/2012 12:14:23 PM PDT by CyberAnt ("America is the greatest nation on the face of the earth".)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
For President Obama, who had counted on foreign policy as a political strength...

What? In what alternate fantasy universe? The foreign policy of the 0bama administration has been rudderless, reactionary, feckless and incompetent in nearly every particular, from weird enthusiasms for Arab Spring in Libya, Egypt, and Syria, to a cringe-making apology tour that served only to set the President of the United States up as better than his own country. It has been populated by rank amateurs such as Hillary Rodham Clinton, laughed at by our enemies such as Putin, our ostensible friends such as the Saudis, while offending our real friends such as the Brits. It is the signature mark of the transcendence of celebrity in American politics over substance, of marquee glitter over actual qualification, of sizzle over steak.

One struggles to find an instance in recent history of a foreign policy morass quite this odoriferous. Jimmy Carter's people had nothing on this gaggle of university brats and two-bit ideologues whose entire depth of qualification consists of an earnest belief that the People Who Count in other countries are (1) just like them, and (2) willing to subordinate the interests of their own countries in the face of internationalist fantasies. Their ineptitude has cost our country lives, fortunes, and they wouldn't know sacred honor if it stared them in the face.

20 posted on 10/12/2012 12:17:50 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

If it were not for the fact that Al Qaeda acknowledged the death of Bin Laden I’d be getting serious doubts about the whole Bin Laden is dead story now after this Libya fiasco.


21 posted on 10/12/2012 12:25:40 PM PDT by tsowellfan
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
Joe Biden 10/11/2012 Vice Presidential debate : " we weren't told " ......

And compare this to when they were watching TV as our Military Special Forces take out Osama Bin Laden...

" WE WEREN'T TOLD " ....


22 posted on 10/12/2012 12:26:00 PM PDT by American Constitutionalist
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To: carlo3b

I think you are right about the Clintons. This is a 180 turn for the NY Slimes. Just yesterday they were defending 0zer0 spokeshole Cutter about her saying all this Libya stuff was being politicized by Romney. Now this change.
I can only think of one way to explain it. Today Carney said Bite Me only spoke for the WH, 0zer0 and himself. Implying that the State Dept is on their own. Hillary knows the State Dept and therefore her is being set up to take the fall. No way the Clintons will allow that. I think the Clintons have given the greenlight to the Slimes to go after 0zer0. No other explanation makes sense why the Slimes did a 180 turn. It will be interesting to see if the floodgates against 0zer0 are opened now.


23 posted on 10/12/2012 12:29:41 PM PDT by SDShack (0zer0care = "The Final Solution" - Socialized Euthanasia Healthcare)
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To: American Constitutionalist


Hey folks ? take a look at that picture ...

Am I seeing things ? or is that Ambassador Chris Stevens in that picture ? if it's not, that guy at the door sure looks like him.. doesn't it ?
24 posted on 10/12/2012 12:31:47 PM PDT by American Constitutionalist
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Was this on page 1, just the web edition, or did they bury it again? Also, .... Gee, I thought they called Hillary the “smartest woman in the world”, but now they are going to throw her under the bus for Dear Leader? Well, that’s Minitru for ya’!


25 posted on 10/12/2012 12:33:25 PM PDT by jeffc (The U.S. media are our enemy)
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To: American Constitutionalist

Ok, correction, that was not Chris Stevens at the door in that room..


26 posted on 10/12/2012 12:42:05 PM PDT by American Constitutionalist
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To: CyberAnt

The threads of information you observe have GOT to be answered, preferably before the election. These threads can only be pulled one at a time. They remain all tightly balled uup, for the strategic purpose of DELAY, and only more and immediate hearings can unravel this time bomb.

Very excellent question about time available to get a drone up, but no time to inject Marine assistance reportedly four miles away.

To me this is, so far, Hillary’s baby. It was the mission of HER department for safe keeping of embassies located in danger zones. It was HER Department who denied increased security requests. It was HER department watching this unfold in real time, on live streaming video, who knew instantly this was not a protest to a video.

So, why didn’t she know this, or did she? For days she spoke about a video protest, when HER department knew the truth, and watched it as it happened.

Was she set up? There were on the ground cameras, as well as drone shots she should’ve seen.

Who let her lie for days and why?


27 posted on 10/12/2012 3:21:51 PM PDT by RitaOK ( VIVA CHRISTO REY)
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