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Biden to the rescue
Orlando Sentinel ^ | by Eugene Robinson

Posted on 10/12/2012 1:35:41 PM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer

Edited on 10/12/2012 1:38:21 PM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

If the question is who did more to help his ticket, Joe Biden won the vice presidential debate by a mile.

Republican Paul Ryan performed pretty well. He made no major mistakes, and a CNN instant poll of viewers actually had him winning narrowly, 48 percent to 44 percent. But my assessment of the debate agreed with that of a CBS instant poll of uncommitted voters, who saw Biden as the landslide winner by 50 percent to 31 percent.


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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Editorial; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: biteme; debate; election2012; plugs
"We weren't told they wanted more security there. We did not know they wanted more security again."

- Joe Biden, VP Debate

1 posted on 10/12/2012 1:35:43 PM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

No “Barf Alert” - I upchucked in my mouth!


2 posted on 10/12/2012 1:39:40 PM PDT by The Sons of Liberty ("Get that evil, foreign, muslim, usurping, gay bastard out of MY White House!" FUBO!)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

At this debate, the real Biden showed up. At the next, on Tuesday at Hofstra University on Long Island, the real Obama had better do the same.

Oh I hope so, but no one will recognize him in his muslim uniform.

My new bumper sticker says SAY GOODBYE TO ISRAEL, VOTE OBAMA.


3 posted on 10/12/2012 1:40:56 PM PDT by longfellow (Bill Maher, the 21st hijacker.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

and ho, ho, ho, there may be five times the fissile material in Iran but they don’t have anything to put it in. Another idiotic Biden statement.


4 posted on 10/12/2012 1:41:35 PM PDT by austingirl
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
From Wikipedia:


Eugene H. Robinson

Robinson was awarded the 2009 Pulitzer Prize for Commentary in recognition of his columns that focused on the first African-American U.S. presidential candidate, Barack Obama, who eventually won, during the 2008 presidential campaign.
5 posted on 10/12/2012 1:42:57 PM PDT by 867V309
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
Don't just consider the two surveys and call it a draw. If you ask whose prospects of winning the election were boosted Thursday night, President Obama's or Mitt Romney's, the answer is really not debatable. This was a moment the Obama campaign needed badly.

I don't know who Eugene Robinson is, but I think he seriously overestimated what the Vice Presidential debate can do for a candidate. It's like a blind man in a fire. He can't do much good, but he can certainly do harm.

Biden didn't make things worse for Obama, but that's all that can be said. The strongest VEEP in the world won't make you vote for a President the way a week VEEP will make you vote against him. Biden didn't lose, but there was nothing for him to win.

Unfortunately for Obama's reelection hopes, Ryan didn't lose either. So we're still where we were on 10/4. Obama's going to have to overcome his bad first debate performance himself.

6 posted on 10/12/2012 1:44:14 PM PDT by ArGee (Reality - what a concept.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Apparently Eugene ignored the focus groups. Out of 26 undecided voters in Lutz focus group not one said the debate changed their mind about anything.


7 posted on 10/12/2012 1:48:14 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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To: 867V309

Another black supremacy fantasist.

They need to deport ALL these people. To somewhere.


8 posted on 10/12/2012 1:48:24 PM PDT by Hardraade (http://junipersec.wordpress.com (I will fear no muslim))
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Mr. Biden’s performance was reminiscent of film footage of Mr. Mussolini speaking before a crowd.

IMHO


9 posted on 10/12/2012 1:52:01 PM PDT by ripley
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

***Affirmative Action Journalism Alert***


10 posted on 10/12/2012 1:52:08 PM PDT by samadams2000 (Someone important make......The Call!)
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To: Hardraade

Fine with me, but until that time let’s ignore their lunatic blather.


11 posted on 10/12/2012 1:52:17 PM PDT by 867V309
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To: ArGee

Who won or lost is subjective according to the individual witnessing the debate. But looking at the polling, aside from CBS every other poll gave it to Ryan.

Robinson is an Obama boot licker extraordinaire as any who read his column knows.


12 posted on 10/12/2012 1:53:54 PM PDT by Lacey2
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To: MNJohnnie; All

The 50% to 31% figure cited referred to an instant poll of 500 uncommitted watchers.


13 posted on 10/12/2012 1:55:38 PM PDT by gleeaikin
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Eugene... you are a delusional liar.

LLS


14 posted on 10/12/2012 1:56:04 PM PDT by LibLieSlayer (OUR GOVERNMENT AND PRESS ARE NO LONGER TRUSTWORTHY OR DESERVING OF RESPECT!)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Eugene Robinson and Leonard Pitts are two of the angriest, most hateful black newspaper columnists out there. They are not just pro black, they sound anti white at times.


15 posted on 10/12/2012 1:56:33 PM PDT by RochesterNYconservative (ROMNEY/RYAN 20121)
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To: ripley

Biden was speaking to Obamaphone voters.


16 posted on 10/12/2012 2:00:03 PM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Robinson is a far-left cheerleader who was never bothered by a fact in his life.

This column is laughable.


17 posted on 10/12/2012 2:01:07 PM PDT by Fido969
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Who cares about undecided voters and why are we polling them? An unscientific poll at that, so means nothing, the results are not able to be interpreted meaningfully.

Anyone who is so clueless and unaware of what has happened in our nation during the past 4 years is not someone whose opinion I care about, nor should the media (except for trying to push numbers toward Obama).

If a person is undecided now, what more information could they possibly need? We have 2 candidates as different as night and day (no pun intended). These idiots will still be undecided the day before the election, and will choose based on a coin-toss, CNN comment, or what their boyfriend says.


18 posted on 10/12/2012 2:03:12 PM PDT by baa39
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To: gleeaikin

Yes, and my post referred to the focus group of Undecided voters Frank Lutz and Fox News invited to watch the debate and share their reactions.

Not one said anything in the debate changed their mind on anything.


19 posted on 10/12/2012 2:11:05 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Discount the CNN poll and find something else to praise about Crazy Joe.

“What.....are you gonna drink twenty cokes?”

“These? Oh.....no.......just clutching at straws.”


20 posted on 10/12/2012 2:12:24 PM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: Lacey2

My guess is that Robinson so desperately wants Zippy to win that he is completely blind to reality. He needs Biden to win, so that’s what he saw.

Either that, or he’s being paid to lie.


21 posted on 10/12/2012 2:16:26 PM PDT by generally (Don't be stupid. We have politicians for that.)
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To: Lacey2

He gives Lenny Pitts a run for his racist money


22 posted on 10/12/2012 2:20:40 PM PDT by italianquaker (The 47 pct need to pay their fair share)
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To: ArGee

Ryan did himself and the ticket proud.

Do I think he could have answered a few questions better? Yes. But that’s Monday morning quarterbacking. Try doing what he did live and see how tough it is. He did great. Not only were his answers good to excellent, but his demeanor was just right.

Ryan didn’t lose his cool. He looked like the only adult in the room. He reminded me very much of an adult tolerating a little sass in a child who wasn’t his, but then putting his foot down when it got out of hand. Either that or someone trying to be respectful and nice to an older fellow suffering from dementia, but not allow him to hurt himself or others.


23 posted on 10/12/2012 2:23:39 PM PDT by generally (Don't be stupid. We have politicians for that.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
pre-Debate

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24 posted on 10/12/2012 2:28:52 PM PDT by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: RochesterNYconservative

You’re being too kind. Robinson is a full fledged racist. And he’s not subtle about.

My local paper runs every damn column he writes. He spews disgusting racist garbage pretty much non stop.


25 posted on 10/12/2012 2:34:55 PM PDT by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s....you weren't really there)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

I woke up once and thought I was in Hell, but I was only in Orlando.


26 posted on 10/12/2012 2:44:13 PM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: all armed conservatives)
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To: The Sons of Liberty
No “Barf Alert” - I upchucked in my mouth!

When you saw 'Eugene Robinson' as the author, you had to know that once you clicked on the post you'd be soon wading into a sewage swamp.

27 posted on 10/12/2012 4:15:13 PM PDT by El Cid (Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house...)
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