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State Dept. Confirms: Marines on 9/11/12 Were Protecting U.S. Embassy--in Barbados
CNS News ^ | 10.12.12

Posted on 10/12/2012 3:38:07 PM PDT by Perdogg

When terrorists attacked the U.S. consulate in Benghazi, Libya, on Sept. 11 of this year and killed the U.S. ambassador and three other Americans, there were no U.S. Marines deployed in Libya to defend U.S. diplomats, diplomatic facilities and classified information and equipment.

However, says the State Department, a Marine Security Detachment was deployed on that day to carry out those duties at the U.S. Embassy in Bridgetown, Barbados.

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: 20120911; barbados; benghazi; bhostatedept; diplomaticsecurity; libya; soshillary; usembassy
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1 posted on 10/12/2012 3:38:12 PM PDT by Perdogg
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To: Perdogg

Talk about the Fox guarding the hen house, the Muslim Brotherhood in the form of the Martyrs of Feb 17 were guarding the Embassy in Libya.

If it wasn’t so tragic it would be funny. What idiot thought that one up? Hillary?


2 posted on 10/12/2012 3:44:51 PM PDT by Venturer
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To: Venturer

This scandal and coverup is far worse than Watergate.


3 posted on 10/12/2012 3:53:43 PM PDT by Signalman
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To: Perdogg

After the Obama/Clinton WAR for al Qaeda Libya,
did the State Dept really think there was no
need for protection?

Why? Which side are Clinton and Huma really on?


4 posted on 10/12/2012 3:56:30 PM PDT by Diogenesis (Vi veri veniversum vivus vici)
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To: Perdogg

I’m sure that now we’ll hear there was a credible threat in Barbados so Marines had to be dispatched. /s


5 posted on 10/12/2012 4:01:19 PM PDT by ken in texas (I was taught to respect my elders but it keeps getting harder to find any.)
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To: Perdogg

The Embassy in Vienna got new Chevy Volts while the Benghazi consulate got a reduction in security.


6 posted on 10/12/2012 4:02:13 PM PDT by mass55th (Courage is being scared to death - but saddling up anyway...John Wayne)
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To: mass55th
The Embassy in Vienna got new Chevy Volts while the Benghazi consulate got a reduction in security.

...plus a $100K+ charging station. But it was the REPUBLICANS that cut State's budget and THAT's why security was so lax.

7 posted on 10/12/2012 4:16:44 PM PDT by Roccus
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To: Roccus

Right. I forgot all about the charging station. Thanks for posting that.


8 posted on 10/12/2012 4:20:34 PM PDT by mass55th (Courage is being scared to death - but saddling up anyway...John Wayne)
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To: Signalman

>>>This scandal and coverup is far worse than Watergate.>>>

Yes, and President Nixon had to resign because of Watergate. Therefor, hmmm....


9 posted on 10/12/2012 4:26:58 PM PDT by kitkat
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To: Perdogg

Many of our embassies are heavily fortified and easy to defend if our personnel are permitted to do so. In countries of dubious stability or a somewhat hostile government, the US is well within its treaty rights to equip our Marines with an assortment of weaponry that can be used on embassy grounds.

In this case, let us imagine how this should have happened.

Once the attackers attack the embassy grounds, just trying to get over the walls, the ambassador issues an instruction to the duty Marines: “Defend the embassy and its grounds.”

Then he and the other non-combatants, if they are unable or unwilling to assist the Marines, retreat to a very difficult to penetrate safe room with notification to the nearest US military base or duty station that they are under attack and request reinforcements.

The first thing the Marines do is to set up and man four M2 .50 caliber machine guns on the four corners of the roof of the embassy, in concealed and covered positions.

If the attackers initiate the attack by blowing out a section of wall with a car bomb, with intent to send a second car bomb through, the Marines will then engage the attacking vehicle with rocket propelled anti-tank weaponry.

During any of this they may feel free to send less than lethal projectiles, such as tear or vomit gas, over the walls into the riotous crowds without.

By the time four ma-deuce have had their say, as well as several RPGs, there will likely be a substantial number of deceased heathens within the walls of the compound. If they still have any fight left in them, the Marines should then downgrade to 7.62mm belt fed machine guns.

In all likelihood, the USAF should be enroute in force by this point, and if the heathen regroup there will be far fewer heathen.

Long after this successful defense, if the host country, which failed in its treaty obligation to protect our embassy, objects to our defending ourselves, we should invite them to sue us in the International Court of Justice, where by treaty, such disputes are to be heard.


10 posted on 10/12/2012 4:34:42 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy (DIY Bumper Sticker: "THREE TIMES,/ DEMOCRATS/ REJECTED GOD")
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To: Perdogg

Ottawa is a dangerous place, too. /s The Marine House is 10 miles away so if anything did happen at the Embassy, the Marine at Post One is on his or her own anyway. What’s the point at all there?


11 posted on 10/12/2012 4:35:49 PM PDT by mikey_hates_everything
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To: mikey_hates_everything

Also, Ottawa is 55 miles from the US border.


12 posted on 10/12/2012 4:36:48 PM PDT by mikey_hates_everything
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To: Perdogg

These people and their priorities (shaking my head in disgust, and wonderment)

I am really leaning towards that theory of Kevin Dujan, or whatever his name is at HillBuzz that this was a setup that blew up in the Democrat’s faces. Probably able to find his article still over at HillBuzz.


13 posted on 10/12/2012 4:42:12 PM PDT by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists, call 'em what you will, they ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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To: kitkat

Right. If this were a Republican President the MSM would be asking if the President plans to resign.


14 posted on 10/12/2012 4:48:23 PM PDT by plain talk
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To: Signalman

I forget, how many people were murdered in Watergate?


15 posted on 10/12/2012 4:53:55 PM PDT by EEGator
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To: Diogenesis
...

...Which side are Clinton and Huma really on?

Well, dust off your prayer rug and adjust the blinders...

Both of those fair fillies are headed for hades....

16 posted on 10/12/2012 4:56:08 PM PDT by ptsal (E)
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To: Perdogg

Does that come under the same heading as, If Bin Laden is in Afghanistan, then invade Iraq?


17 posted on 10/12/2012 5:00:27 PM PDT by PapaNew
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To: Perdogg

Re my post #13 the link to that theory I mentioned:

http://hillbuzz.org/page/4

and scroll down about the middle of the page. Title is “Did Obama deliberately try to stage a hostage taking in Benghazi as an “October Surprise”

Anymore I would believe he’s onto something.


18 posted on 10/12/2012 5:05:15 PM PDT by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists, call 'em what you will, they ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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sfl


19 posted on 10/12/2012 5:11:11 PM PDT by phockthis (http://www.supremelaw.org/fedzone11/index.htm ...)
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To: Perdogg

What was the threat in Barbados? Ganja crazed reggae gangstas upset because someone made a You Tube insulting their dreadlocks?


20 posted on 10/12/2012 5:22:56 PM PDT by left that other site (Worry is the Darkroom that Develops Negatives.)
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To: Perdogg

Why is this a story? U.S. Marines guard our embassies in EVERY country. My step-brother has that detail in Honduras. The issue to me is why our Ambassador didn’t have protection when he traveled to the consulate office in Benghazi. (Our embassy in Libya is in Tripoli.)


21 posted on 10/12/2012 5:25:57 PM PDT by SunStar (Democrats piss me off!)
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22 posted on 10/12/2012 5:40:58 PM PDT by PMAS (All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing)
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To: ken in texas

Maybe Jay-Z or Beyonce were vacationing there and needed protection.


23 posted on 10/12/2012 6:06:45 PM PDT by TurboZamboni (Looting the future to bribe the present)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

After watching the hearing Issa held about Benghazi, my impression was that it is the host country’s military or police force responsibility to combat this many attackers. Their idea is get the ambassador to a safe room, hold and protect him/her until the host country can contain the protest/attack whatever.

Problem with this approach was the safe room wasn’t smoke proof in Benghazi.

I had always thought Marines at embassies could/would defend with serious firepower if something like what happened in Benghazi went down. What are they allowed to do?


24 posted on 10/12/2012 6:34:19 PM PDT by Girlene
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To: mass55th

It was laughable when Biden said they had bad intelligence regarding the Libyan embassy attack, yet in the same breath says they have very good intelligence regarding how close Iran is to having a nuke....................two different intelligence agencies?


25 posted on 10/12/2012 6:36:18 PM PDT by TurboZamboni (Looting the future to bribe the present)
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To: rockinqsranch

“that this was a setup that blew up in the Democrat’s faces. Probably able to find his article still over at HillBuzz.”

Interesting. So whatever the outcome was SUPPOSED to be, Hussein had to play out the script he’d been given regarding the youtube video, until he received further orders.

Mr. youtube video director sure was vilified and put on ice fast. No one’s been reporting or asking about him...

Wonder if it’s not so easy to pull Hussein’s strings lately, if it took him what, eight days to completely deny SAYING everything he’d been saying? What was up with that?


26 posted on 10/12/2012 6:39:00 PM PDT by treetopsandroofs (Had FDR been GOP, there would have been no World Wars, just "The Great War" and "Roosevelt's Wars".)
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To: TurboZamboni

That’s a doggone good point. It should be repeated profusely...

Also, and maybe someone who is a weapons expert can explain it to me:

Iran has successfully put three satellites (that I’ve heard of) into orbit. We know they collaborate with North Korea to some degree (but overall are probably ahead of NK, technology-wise.) Yet Biden claims that Iran has no way, in the near future, once they have enough sufficiently enriched uranium, to hit Israel with a Bomb.

Doesn’t this reek of (arrogantly) underestimating one’s opponent?


27 posted on 10/12/2012 7:06:11 PM PDT by Paul R. (We are in a break in an Ice Age. A brief break at that...)
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To: Perdogg

Should that miserable, very Muslim, president win the election, we ought to get him impeached right away. Four years of an impeached Hussein.


28 posted on 10/12/2012 7:15:59 PM PDT by bergmeid
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To: SunStar
Why is this a story? U.S. Marines guard our embassies in EVERY country.

I don't think anybody minds that US Marines guard the Barbados embassy.

The point of the story is that Biden claimed that the ambassador in Libya did not have a Marine security detail because Republicans cut the embassy security budget.

The point is that if they had limited funds, perhaps they should have prioritized better. Like focusing resources on those countries with an active al Qaeda presence openly threatening to attack the our foreign service personnel.

29 posted on 10/12/2012 7:19:51 PM PDT by dead (It ain't over until the phone lady sings.)
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To: TurboZamboni; holdonnow

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That is true

vp Joe Biden and prezzy wid a lisp B Hussein Obama Junior do have “bad intelligence”......

.


30 posted on 10/12/2012 7:23:28 PM PDT by devolve (----- ------- -CHEESEBURGER_CHEESEBURGER_CHEESEBURGER- ----------------------------)
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To: All

Greystone is in Barbados


31 posted on 10/12/2012 7:37:18 PM PDT by bugs_dallas
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To: Perdogg

I still think they wanted Ambassador Stevens to get whacked because he knew too much about the assasination of Kadaffy to secure the massive Libyan financial assets [/conspiracytheory]


32 posted on 10/12/2012 8:28:58 PM PDT by KTM rider
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To: Venturer
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33 posted on 10/12/2012 8:34:06 PM PDT by mdel747
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To: SunStar
Why is this a story? U.S. Marines guard our embassies in EVERY country.

No they don't. There are quite a few that do not have Marine MSG.

34 posted on 10/12/2012 8:47:41 PM PDT by Repeat Offender (Official Romney/GOP-E Platform - We suck less)
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To: Repeat Offender

Marine MSG? That’s rather redundantly redundant. I meant to just say Marine Security Guard.


35 posted on 10/12/2012 8:48:50 PM PDT by Repeat Offender (Official Romney/GOP-E Platform - We suck less)
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To: mdel747

My experience in African embassies is 30 years old. In Djibouti, there were no Marines, but the French pledged to provide protection should winds turn ugly. Ditto N’Djamena, Chad, but it too was crawling with French soldiers and Legionnaires. I worked for a few weeks in the embassy at Mbabane, Swaziland. Talk about a backwater. Now all those embassies are under the protection of the U.S. Marines. With this situation in Benghazi, it is a different ball game. This can be laid directly at the feet of Godzillary. Her head should roll, preferably before 6 Nov.


36 posted on 10/12/2012 8:56:37 PM PDT by Ax ("Bring the Pipes together for the Risin' o' the Moon.")
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To: kitkat; Signalman
I needed a reminder of the timeline of Watergate. I suspect others do, too ... from wikipedia:

The Watergate scandal was a political scandal that occurred in the United States in the 1970s as a result of the June 1972 break-in at the Democratic National Committee headquarters at the Watergate office complex in Washington, D.C., and the Nixon administration's attempted cover-up of its involvement. The scandal eventually led to the resignation of Richard Nixon, the President of the United States, on August 9, 1974, the only resignation of a U.S. President. The scandal also resulted in the indictment, trial, conviction and incarceration of 43 people, including dozens of Nixon's top administration officials.

The affair began with the arrest of five men for breaking and entering into the Democratic National Committee (DNC) headquarters at the Watergate complex on June 17, 1972. The Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) connected cash found on the burglars to a slush fund used by the Committee for the Re-Election of the President, a fundraising group for the Nixon campaign.[1][2] In July 1973, as evidence mounted against the president's staff, including testimony provided by former staff members in an investigation conducted by the Senate Watergate Committee, it was revealed that President Nixon had a tape-recording system in his offices and he had recorded many conversations.[3][4] Recordings from these tapes implicated the president, revealing he had attempted to cover up the break-in.[2][5] After a protracted series of bitter court battles, the U.S. Supreme Court ruled that the president had to hand over the tapes to government investigators; he ultimately complied.

Facing near-certain impeachment in the House of Representatives and a strong possibility of a conviction in the Senate, Nixon resigned the presidency on August 9, 1974.[6][7] His successor, Gerald Ford, then issued a pardon to Nixon.

I remember that there was a lot of political turmoil for those two intervening years that is not mentioned in the Wiki article... I bet that many here do remember that.

I wonder if American voters are interested in going through such consternation and turmoil a second time, for the next two years, in a fragile economy? I don't think so, and that is why I believe that BenghaziGate will have an effect of some amount on this election.

37 posted on 10/12/2012 9:27:59 PM PDT by AFPhys ((Praying for our troops, our citizens, that the Bible and Freedom become basis of the US law again))
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To: SunStar

It’s a story because the liberals are (including Biden) blaming the lack of security in Benghazi on Republicans for not giving enough money which is total bs.

Now we come up with all that they spent on non-essential areas and left the most essential unarmed. I also believe the administrations lack of knowledge on what happened over there was due to not attending intelligence briefings. Didn’t it take 3 more days or maybe 4 after it happened for the one to even show up for a briefing?

He has attended 36% of intelligence briefings where Bush attended 100% of them. This is his top priority job. Protect our citizens. I am so mad right now!


38 posted on 10/12/2012 9:48:20 PM PDT by jcsjcm (This country was built on exceptionalism and individualism. In God we Trust - Laus Deo)
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To: Venturer
This is no cover up, it's a bad lie and BIG tragedy bordering on , crud name the offenses.

I cannot believe the culmination of 4 years of blitzing the constitution ends in such negligence, such complacency, such outright stupidity and delusional dissociation but it has. it's in a sense what all conservatives have been waiting for. I hope this ends it. I hope and pray for these scum bags to get what they deserve.

To see finally the implosion that ALL America, all "WE THE PEOPLE" can stand as one and say:

"Screw you, screw your FORWARD socialism bid, screw your economics and screw all your thuggery lies, tomahawk missile wars and MURDER."

Take back our country now !

39 posted on 10/12/2012 9:50:13 PM PDT by Karliner ( Jeremiah 29:11, Romans 8:28, Romans 8:38"...this is the end of the beginning."WC)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

“Once the attackers attack the embassy grounds... ambassador issues an instruction to the duty Marines: “Defend the embassy and its grounds.”... non-combatants... retreat to a very difficult to penetrate safe room ... Marines ... man four M2 .50 caliber machine guns on the four corners of the roof... engage the attacking vehicle with rocket propelled anti-tank weaponry... as tear or vomit gas ... a substantial number of deceased heathens ... then... 7.62mm belt fed machine guns... USAF ... enroute ... if the heathen regroup there will be far fewer ... invite them to sue us in the International Court of Justice...”

Great run-down of what SHOULD have happened on 9/11/2012 in Benghazi.

One quibble - it would be worth while to note that such an attack IS an “act of war” prima facie.


40 posted on 10/12/2012 9:54:25 PM PDT by AFPhys ((Praying for our troops, our citizens, that the Bible and Freedom become basis of the US law again))
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To: TurboZamboni
It was laughable when Biden said they had bad intelligence regarding the Libyan embassy attack, yet in the same breath says they have very good intelligence regarding how close Iran is to having a nuke....................two different intelligence agencies?

Worth repeating ... worth Tweeting ... (as if I even know what tweeting is...lol)

41 posted on 10/12/2012 9:58:39 PM PDT by AFPhys ((Praying for our troops, our citizens, that the Bible and Freedom become basis of the US law again))
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To: Karliner

“... the culmination of 4 years of blitzing the constitution ends in such negligence, such complacency, such outright stupidity and delusional dissociation...”

-—<>-—<>-—<>-—<>-—<>-—

Hear Hear!


42 posted on 10/12/2012 10:03:40 PM PDT by AFPhys ((Praying for our troops, our citizens, that the Bible and Freedom become basis of the US law again))
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To: AFPhys; TurboZamboni
I agree.. Worth repeating

It was laughable when Biden said they had bad intelligence regarding the Libyan embassy attack, yet in the same breath says they have very good intelligence regarding how close Iran is to having a nuke....................two different intelligence agencies?

It needs to get into the R&R campaign hands before Tuesday for USA voters (and Hillary)to hear it.

43 posted on 10/12/2012 11:34:50 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: TurboZamboni
Maybe Jay-Z or Beyonce were vacationing there and needed protection.

More like Valerie Jarrett The Reptilian.

44 posted on 10/12/2012 11:46:55 PM PDT by ponygirl (Be Breitbart.)
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To: rockinqsranch
It has to have been a setup... the Cairo embassy released a statement about that stupid video before they attacked the embassy in Benghazi.
45 posted on 10/12/2012 11:49:24 PM PDT by ponygirl (Be Breitbart.)
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To: Perdogg

I’ve been to Barbados. Why would we need a contingent there?

Seems safe.


46 posted on 10/13/2012 1:20:14 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: Perdogg

Hey, if you could choose, where would you choose to go? To some North African hellhole or to a tropical paradise?

Of course, Marines would always choose to go where they were needed. So it must have been some State Department puke deciding this...


47 posted on 10/13/2012 4:07:32 AM PDT by Haiku Guy (If Hillary reminds every man of his ex-wife, Joe Biden reminds every woman of her ex-husband.)
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To: Perdogg

Hey, if you could choose, where would you choose to go? To some North African hellhole or to a tropical paradise?

Of course, Marines would always choose to go where they were needed. So it must have been some State Department puke deciding this...


48 posted on 10/13/2012 4:07:40 AM PDT by Haiku Guy (If Hillary reminds every man of his ex-wife, Joe Biden reminds every woman of her ex-husband.)
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To: Roccus

I thought I heard Ms Lamb (or what ever her name was) in the hearing state the funding cuts in no way would effect security because if it was needed, they would get the money from somewhere.................shots down the lefts “it was the republicans” fault line doesn’t it


49 posted on 10/13/2012 5:42:51 AM PDT by blueyon (The U. S. Constitution - read it and weep)
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To: Perdogg

The smartest people in America, possibly the world, could’ve avoided all this by saying at the start its a national security issue and they are investigating it.


50 posted on 10/13/2012 6:23:27 AM PDT by Leep (Forward! to serfdom)
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