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VP Debate: Body Language Expert Sees Big Contrast
ABC News ^ | October 12, 2012 | By ABBY D. PHILLIP

Posted on 10/12/2012 4:18:37 PM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer

If Vice President Joe Biden channeled his inner pit bull, Rep. Paul Ryan brought his inner puppy to the debate stage, according to facial expression expert Chris Kowal.

Kowal, an assistant professor at Purdue University, used computer software to analyze the facial expressions produced by the nearly 400 muscles in the human face during Biden and Ryan's face-off.

As Biden's big laughter took Twitter by storm, the computer model lit up with readings of frustration and discomfort—the emotions you might experience laughing at a funeral, Kowal said.

"It's not an uncommon reaction when people see something that really makes them uncomfortable, and frustrated… they might laugh at inappropriate moments," Kowal said. "It was that."

"When I watched him laugh, it was a clear sign that he was frustrated," Kowal added.

When Biden rejected Ryan's arguments as "a bunch of stuff" and "malarkey," the emotional ratings went off the charts.

"When he said malarkey—the passion leading up the comment, the passion and the intensity of emotion was really strong," Kowal said. "He was very angry, very disgusted…sad and all of these three emotions were all in the 'high intense' level."

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: biteme; debate; election2012; ryan
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1 posted on 10/12/2012 4:18:46 PM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

I saw a crazy old turd, and a polite Midwesterner.


2 posted on 10/12/2012 4:22:28 PM PDT by Kozak (The means of defence again.t foreign danger, have been always the instruments of tyranny at home JM)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

ABC. No need to read any further.


3 posted on 10/12/2012 4:23:25 PM PDT by EagleUSA
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

When Cackle & Smirk Biden speaks his lies, the enemedia dutifully defend them. So when Cackle & Smirk is rude and obnoxious the same media praise him as ‘passionate’. Lying is a way of life for democrats, and with the current filth in media any lie can be floated and will be defended so long as it comes from a democrat.


4 posted on 10/12/2012 4:24:34 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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5 posted on 10/12/2012 4:24:47 PM PDT by RedMDer (https://support.woundedwarriorproject.org/default.aspx?tsid=93destr)
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To: Kozak

I saw rudeness. Period.

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6 posted on 10/12/2012 4:26:44 PM PDT by Mears
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

The ‘RATS might like to refer to him as their Gay Warrior but Joey Buffoon is the original “passion” fruit.


7 posted on 10/12/2012 4:27:29 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Sorry Algore. It was attitude, NOT altitude.)
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To: Mears

Biden is long overdue for his fourth round of brain surgery. He’s got some deteriorating tissue up there ~ bet he doesn’t make it to January no matter who wins.


8 posted on 10/12/2012 4:28:40 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Kozak

No mention that Twitter was taken by storm in a way not flattering to the crazy uncle. We know what we saw.


9 posted on 10/12/2012 4:31:33 PM PDT by ntnychik
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Biden carried on like a petulant child demanding attention and disrupting everything around him when he didn’t think he was getting his way. It was a detestable and juvenile display.

What some asst. professor and his computer software have to say about it is irrelevant.


10 posted on 10/12/2012 4:31:43 PM PDT by smoothsailing
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

I saw a guy that belonged in a straight jacket. He made a mockery of the office of the Vice President last night..people around the world watching this debate must have been laughing their asses off at Biden. He made America look like a laughing stock


11 posted on 10/12/2012 4:32:04 PM PDT by Sarah Barracuda
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

I saw a garden-variety angry, bitter liberal who is quite used to spewing vitrol.


12 posted on 10/12/2012 4:32:52 PM PDT by Obadiah (The corrupt MSM is the enemy of the American people.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

I didn’t see any of that. I saw the same obnoxious, bullying, self-important, lying Biden I’ve seen in numberous congressional recordings.

I saw a post on one of the other threads I thought was great... It said Biden reminded every divorced woman of her ex-husband.


13 posted on 10/12/2012 4:33:23 PM PDT by Tamzee (The U.S. re-electing Obama would be like the Titanic backing up and ramming the iceberg again.)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Thanks Oldeconomybuyer.


14 posted on 10/12/2012 4:33:49 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

I call BS.


15 posted on 10/12/2012 4:36:48 PM PDT by savedbygrace (But God.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

More spin than a Kansas twister.


16 posted on 10/12/2012 4:38:54 PM PDT by Huskrrrr
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
Biden was programmed by the Lib machine to behave this way. But don't cut him any slack...he has drunk the Kool Aid deeply.

That said, he was following orders to try to humiliate Ryan. He failed because Ryan stayed on message and never lost his composure.

But this battle is far from over.

Next comes Obama. He will be prepped this time because if he fails...it isn't just Obama who gets the boot.

The entire Communist agenda will be retired.

Thus far, Obama has done the programming (on instructions from on high in the CPUSA command). But coming next (pure conjecture on my part), we will see what the big guns of American Communism can do. Obama will himself be programmed!

17 posted on 10/12/2012 4:39:56 PM PDT by RoosterRedux (Obama: "If you've got a business -- you didn't build that. Somebody else made that happen.")
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Who cares what experts say.
We know what we saw.
No need to explain it to us.
We are adults.


18 posted on 10/12/2012 4:40:04 PM PDT by 1_Rain_Drop
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To: SunkenCiv

Ryan reminded me more of a full grown, strong but calm and intelligent labrador retriever sitting quietly by a pond in summer, half annoyed and half amused by a large horsefly buzzing in circles around him seeking a place to land and suck, accomplishing the latter, failing at the former.


19 posted on 10/12/2012 4:42:17 PM PDT by HannibalHamlinJr
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

This appears to be the “expert”:

http://www.cfs.purdue.edu/csr/about/directory/kowal.html

He was a graduate student in 2010, so calling himself an “expert” might be a reach.


20 posted on 10/12/2012 4:45:45 PM PDT by savedbygrace (But God.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

21 posted on 10/12/2012 4:46:00 PM PDT by Doogle ((USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

I don’t normally watch O’Reilly, but maybe he’ll have his body language lady on tonight.


22 posted on 10/12/2012 4:48:43 PM PDT by ryderann
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To: RoosterRedux

Biden went full-bore msnbc.


23 posted on 10/12/2012 4:50:05 PM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

They had to pay an expert to figure that out? What a waste of money.


24 posted on 10/12/2012 4:52:36 PM PDT by mass55th (Courage is being scared to death - but saddling up anyway...John Wayne)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Biden looked like a smart aleck kid who thinks he has all the answers. However, what we really saw was the utter disdain all liberals have for conservatives. They regard all conservatives and average Americans as idiots, bumpkins clinging to their guns and religion and being unable to make the “right” decisions in their lives without liberal elites making those decisions for them. Biden obviously thought Ryan as a conservative couldn’t possibly know anything compared to the knowledge and sophistication he (Biden) has amassed by being in Congress for decades. To Biden anything Ryan said was a joke and couldn’t be taken seriously. However to many people Biden made an ass of himself.


25 posted on 10/12/2012 4:55:31 PM PDT by The Great RJ
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Bullcrap. I’d wager all of Biden’s histrionics were affectations, not a response to being frustrated.


26 posted on 10/12/2012 4:55:45 PM PDT by GSWarrior
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
Yes he did...but MSNBC is not giving the orders. They are simply following them.

Biden got orders from the Head (as C.S. Lewis would say).

27 posted on 10/12/2012 4:59:53 PM PDT by RoosterRedux (Obama: "If you've got a business -- you didn't build that. Somebody else made that happen.")
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
Biden is old enough to remember the old saying: It is better to keep your mouth shut and let the world think you are a fool then to open your mouth and prove you are one. He obviously does not believe it.
28 posted on 10/12/2012 5:01:11 PM PDT by antidemoncrat
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To: Tamzee
It said Biden reminded every divorced woman of her ex-husband


29 posted on 10/12/2012 5:02:52 PM PDT by Stand Watch Listen
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

He was angry, disgusted and sad that his lies were being exposed for all to see.

I believe that when I see a Obama/Biden sign in a yard or bumpersticker on a car I read it as saying “Yes, I’m that damn stupid”.


30 posted on 10/12/2012 5:05:02 PM PDT by History Repeats (Drink plenty of TEA, but avoid the Koolaid.)
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To: antidemoncrat

“Biden is old enough to remember the old saying: It is better to keep your mouth shut and let the world think you are a fool then to open your mouth and prove you are one. He obviously does not believe it.”

Nah. He believes it. He just cannot imagine it applies to him.


31 posted on 10/12/2012 5:05:36 PM PDT by ModelBreaker
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
Biden was trying to make up for the empty chair. But Biden could not get past his lies and covetous self. I was most appalled by his green eyed envy over productive people who create jobs. Isn't covetousness a bad sin in his religion?
32 posted on 10/12/2012 5:05:36 PM PDT by Just mythoughts (Please help Todd Akin defeat Claire and the GOP-e send money!!!!!)
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To: ryderann

Tanya is usually on Friday nights.


33 posted on 10/12/2012 5:07:17 PM PDT by Mountain Mary (Pray for our Republic...)
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To: Mears
I saw rudeness


34 posted on 10/12/2012 5:07:45 PM PDT by Stand Watch Listen
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To: GSWarrior

I agree with you GS. This is a major acting job by Plugs which liberal Hollywood would give him an Oscar for.


35 posted on 10/12/2012 5:09:57 PM PDT by Mountain Mary (Pray for our Republic...)
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To: Kozak

This is what their base wanted.... I do think Biden over did it though - as expected.

I also believe Romney / Ryan knew he’d do it - in fact they said so. But really Ryan would have look like a young fool if he acted the way Biden did... so Ryan was great.

Conservatives aren’t smug and obnoxious - Libtards are. Joe played to his leftwing base and Ryan played to everyone else.... perfect.

Joe was a picture perfect example of why the democratic party can’t be expected to govern in today’s world. I hope the Romney continues to talk about bringing people together to govern - independents love that.


36 posted on 10/12/2012 5:12:31 PM PDT by mike_9958
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

About all I saw was a young man prepared to engage, and an old man freaked out that he might have to.

Biden’s complete debate training consisted of three things.

1. Making absurd expressions on his face non stop for 90 minutes
2. Interrupting Ryan so he couldn’t get a complete string of two or more sentences out.
3. Saying over and over again, “That’s not true, when it was.”

The Obama team is desperate. Their whole political world is coming crashing down, and neither of them can take a chance on addressing factual comments from the other team.

They have to dismiss Romney and Ryan’s comments, because they can’t counter them on point.

We can expect the “That’s not true!” pattern to continue on Tuesday. I hope Romney cuts him off at the shoe laces.


37 posted on 10/12/2012 5:23:01 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Biden disrespect wasn't limited to Ryan. It was an insult to me and every other U. S. Citizen.)
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To: ryderann

O’Reilly’s body language expert (Tonya) was on WLSam this morning. Here are her main points: Biden had no gaffes. He was himself. The way he acted is his baseline..his normal behavior. He was dominant, powerful, and very passionate. He was able to get his points across. He may have seemed been rude to some people, but he got his message out. When he was smirking and smiling, he was acting as a father to the younger Ryan as if to say “come on you can’t really mean that.” Biden really believes in his stances.
To me she doesn’t sound very smart!


38 posted on 10/12/2012 5:41:40 PM PDT by vickixxxx
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Congratulations to Paul Ryan for keeping his cool.

He took the advice of Napoleon Bonaparte: “Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake.”


39 posted on 10/12/2012 5:44:21 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy (DIY Bumper Sticker: "THREE TIMES,/ DEMOCRATS/ REJECTED GOD")
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To: vickixxxx

Biden “really believes” that Palin brought up death panels in 2008 2 years BEFORE the Health Care bill was written?

If true, Biden is mentally unfit to be VP.

That the problem with the Leftists. Once they start recklessly lying, they have to keep lying to avoid the truth.

Really pathetic BOR buys this clown’s act.


40 posted on 10/12/2012 5:45:35 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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To: MNJohnnie

IMHO, Biden consumed too many adult beverages in the two hours or so preceding the debate. His behavior, verbal and non verbal was that of a DRUNK....


41 posted on 10/12/2012 5:54:31 PM PDT by LaMudBug
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Amazingly bone-headed video has nothing to do with the article.


42 posted on 10/12/2012 6:14:16 PM PDT by Excellence (9/11 was an act of faith.)
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To: GSWarrior
Bullcrap. I’d wager all of Biden’s histrionics were affectations, not a response to being frustrated.

Precisely. That was obvious in his ability to instantly turn the "hilarity," "frustration," and "anger" on and off.

43 posted on 10/12/2012 6:14:43 PM PDT by luvbach1 (Stop the destruction in 2012 or continue the decline)
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To: LaMudBug

To me it looked like Biden found 0bama’s stash . . .

The way he was giggling, it must have been some premo stuff.


44 posted on 10/12/2012 6:20:56 PM PDT by Petruchio (I Think . . . Therefor I FReep.)
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To: Tamzee

As an ex-husband I find that very insulting.


45 posted on 10/12/2012 6:21:42 PM PDT by Durus (You can avoid reality, but you cannot avoid the consequences of avoiding reality. Ayn Rand)
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To: Tamzee

Dick Cheney just and explicitly verified that on Hannity.

Will be very interesting to see what the polls show the effect of that “debate”. Betting the spread widens in all but the most blue of blue states.


46 posted on 10/12/2012 6:29:30 PM PDT by X-spurt (It is truly time for ON YOUR FEET or on your knees)
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To: mike_9958
"This is what their base wanted.... I do think Biden over did it though - as expected."

Yep. Liberals think this is great. Normal people... not so much.

If the Obama campaign is trying to secure their base at this late stage this is a sure sign they are in trouble. What we witnessed last night was borne of panic.

47 posted on 10/12/2012 6:37:56 PM PDT by vlad335
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To: vlad335

“If the Obama campaign is trying to secure their base at this late stage this is a sure sign they are in trouble”

Excellent Point...


48 posted on 10/12/2012 6:49:26 PM PDT by mike_9958
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To: RoosterRedux

The entire Communist agenda will be retired.


Not so much. The GOP is quite full of it’s own progressives.

If they are left to their own devices with Mittens, there will be little difference. The Tea Party is going to have to stay involved and in touch with our elected representatives. There is a lot of damage to be turned back and repealed. It’s not that easy to turn back an abusive machine like Obama built into the government.


49 posted on 10/12/2012 6:52:01 PM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

I saw someone calm, collected, focussed, serious and above stooping to Biden’s level in the face of Biden’s rudeness. And personally I liked the quiet rebuke, “it would serve the people better if we all stopped interrupting each other” or something like that. Such a polite stilleto thrust must have heaped coals on Biden’s head, to borrow an image from the Gospel.


50 posted on 10/12/2012 7:36:19 PM PDT by Unam Sanctam
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