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Ryan Wins VP Debate - Was Biden Drinking?
Israel News Agency / Google News ^ | October 12, 2012 | Joel Leyden

Posted on 10/12/2012 10:17:44 PM PDT by IsraelBeach

Ryan Wins VP Debate - Was Biden Drinking?

By Joel Leyden
Israel News Agency

New York, New York --- October 12, 2012 ... Last night's US Presidential debate appeared to be between a serious, sober and articulate Congressman Paul Ryan and an intoxicated, out of control Vice President Joe Biden.

According to CNBC Congressman Paul Ryan buried VP Joe Biden by 56 percent to 36 percent.

Why was the spread so wide?

Biden, who is normally a good guy and would have made a much better President than Obama, appeared to have been either given bad advice by a media coach to be overly aggressive or may have been drinking before the actual debate. If he wasn't drinking, then it may have been one Valium too many.

As Ryan tried to respond to questions asked by moderator Martha Raddatz, as on cue, Biden would either interrupt or laugh as Ryan began to answer. Biden's laughing, smirks, gasps and eye-rolls became so obnoxious that it continued as Ryan was discussing Iran's lethal attempt to build a nuclear bomb.

Biden interrupted Ryan over 62 times.

Obama and Biden have been accused of ignoring requests and of an apparent coverup for increased security for US embassies abroad which resulted in the murder of US Ambassador Chris Stevens and three other embassy staff. Yet during the VP debate Joe Biden tried unsuccessfully to deflect this issue by claiming that Ryan had voted to cut security for the embassy. That was a sad and distorting lie. Ryan had actually requested federal cuts across the board but never itemized or earmarked embassy security as a budget cut.

Ryan stated that Obama's proposal to let tax rates rise for high-income individuals would tax about 53 percent of small-business income.

Ryan also noted that 20 million people are projected to lose their health insurance if Obamacare goes through.

On the issue of women's rights, Ryan made it clear that he is pro life but would authorize abortions in the event of rape, incest or if the mother was in physical danger.

On social media, Ryan was a clear winner.

In addition to Twitter’s outrage with Joe Biden’s laughter during the debate, Ryan, @PaulRyanVP, went from 382,789 followers prior to the debate to 393,255 followers after the debate. Biden, @JoeBiden, went from 195,990 followers prior to the debate to 205,834 followers after the debate.

The Facebook group Jews for Mitt Romney states that in contrast to Barack Obama and Joe Biden who cannot tell us where the capital of Israel is, wants Israel to return to indefensible 1967 borders and does not require red lines for Iran and it's building of a nuclear weapon, both Mitt Romney and Paul Ryan have declared that they are on the same page with Israel Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu.

On Netanyahu's recent visit to the UN, Obama ignored the Israeli Prime Minister's request to meet and instead gave an interview on a TV talk show in New York.

"I think Biden raises serious questions about his ability to be a heartbeat away from the president," said Fox News contributor Dick Morris. "His inappropriate conduct is glaring and will backfire with the American people. He had no dignity or presidentiality."


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Israel; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: joebiden; mittromney; paulryan; vpdebate
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1 posted on 10/12/2012 10:17:54 PM PDT by IsraelBeach
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To: IsraelBeach

prior articles say biden interrupted over 80 times, and biden-asistant radditz interrupted ryan anywhere from 13-32 times depending on the article.

also it wouldn’t be valium, it’d be speed or crystal meth. valium would’ve slowed joe down.


2 posted on 10/12/2012 10:22:02 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: Nachum

Ping


3 posted on 10/12/2012 10:25:31 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar (The pundits have forgotten the 2010 elections.)
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To: IsraelBeach
Biden, who is normally a good guy and would have made a much better President than Obama …
Oh male sibling. Time for Jews to abandon liberalism; it’ll kill them as much as it’s killing us.
4 posted on 10/12/2012 10:30:06 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: IsraelBeach

It appeared to me that Rimshot Joe was drunk. The joint went from being a VP debate to an Irish pub.


5 posted on 10/12/2012 10:31:11 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Sorry Algore. It was attitude, NOT altitude.)
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To: IsraelBeach
Israel has good reason to detest another Obama term as should the Jewish American people. I thought it was pretty eye-opening to hear Biden mock Iran's nuclear intentions and capabilities especially when he said repeatedly that even IF they got enough enriched uranium they had no missile or bomb in which to deliver it. He apparently doesn't consider Iran's allies that DO have such containers - Russia being the PRIMARY one - as well as the real possibility of a "dirty bomb" which would not need a sophisticated delivery system.

If Biden is supposed to be the "Foreign Policy" brains of the Obama Administration, we ALL have reason to be afraid. Biden needs to retire in January and I pray we never see or hear from Obama again after his crushing defeat.

6 posted on 10/12/2012 10:32:07 PM PDT by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to Him.)
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To: IsraelBeach

7 posted on 10/12/2012 10:32:32 PM PDT by Slyfox
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To: IsraelBeach

I really think the disrespectable smirks were planned...even rehearsed, per Alinsky rule #5...

RULE 5: “Ridicule is man’s most potent weapon.” There is no defense. It’s irrational. It’s infuriating. It also works as a key pressure point to force the enemy into concessions.

Of course it backfired gloriously.


8 posted on 10/12/2012 10:36:31 PM PDT by aquila48
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To: justiceseeker93; AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; ...

Thanks IsraelBeach.


9 posted on 10/12/2012 10:44:54 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: aquila48

It’s true that it is infuriating. It apparently infuriated America, females in particular from what I can gather.

Surprisingly, it did not infuriate Ryan, although I am sure on the inside he was pissed, but one could not detect that on the outside. He was a rock, I have to give him credit, he is a more measured man than me.


10 posted on 10/12/2012 10:45:47 PM PDT by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: aquila48

I agree! Just laugh him off and deny deny deny.


11 posted on 10/12/2012 10:48:54 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: boatbums

Does Biden and his handlers think we are idiots? I found these articles on Iran’s missile capabilities in about five minutes.

Iran has sworn to destroy us. Better not laugh it off.

North Korea shipped long-range missiles to Iran: US
http://www.thenational.ae/news/world/middle-east/north-korea-shipped-long-range-missiles-to-iran-us

Iran to unveil ‘advanced’ cruise missile
http://zeenews.india.com/news/world/iran-to-unveil-advanced-cruise-missile_798741.html

New fears over Iran’s missile capability
http://www.smh.com.au/world/new-fears-over-irans-missile-capability-20120203-1qxn5.html

EMP Nightmare: How Iran or North Korea Could Destroy America with a Single Bomb
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bu8GTn01n18


12 posted on 10/12/2012 10:52:22 PM PDT by garjog (We do not want another four more years of the last four years.)
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To: chris37
It’s true that it is infuriating. It apparently infuriated America, females in particular from what I can gather.

MSM is turning itself inside out, yet again, for the Bitch Queen. This time it's to make sure Romney wins sot that Hillary can run against him in 2016. The moment she runs out the back door of State with the world on fire, she'll start hating Romney. Watch - four solid years are coming of Hillary running for president, attacking Romney, and distancing herself from Obama. All while the MSM shovels her real legacy down the memory hole, and drags the country back, back, back, back to them happening 60's yet again, and beat, beat, beat that dead, dead, dead horse over, and over, and over to try to shove Her Royal Fat Ass through that White House door at last.

That is, unless she can figure out a way to barge into the White House in 2012 - still, even now. And oh yeah, that is EXACTLY what is on her mind, right now. If she can find a crack, bitch be goin' for it - and dead ambassadors can go screw themselves.

13 posted on 10/12/2012 10:53:24 PM PDT by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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To: aquila48

Effective ridicule is not merely making faces.


14 posted on 10/12/2012 10:59:05 PM PDT by arrogantsob (The Disaster MUST Go. Sarah herself supports Romney.)
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To: Talisker

1) there need be no concern about Hillary EVER. She is only going to get uglier and is already ugly as sin.

2) no way of replacing Obama at this time especially when she would come in neck deep in Libya and now, Yemen with a tangle of lies wrapped around her neck that even Bill couldn’t talk his way out of.

3) the media knows well that it is going to have to find a new, fresh face or the up-coming landslide is going to knock the RATs out of power for decades to come. They have no one up and coming. Who? Debbie Blabbermouth Schlutz?


15 posted on 10/12/2012 11:04:25 PM PDT by arrogantsob (The Disaster MUST Go. Sarah herself supports Romney.)
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To: aquila48

There’s a limit to everything. Ridicule is a powerful tool, but I think you’re already off on the wrong foot if you think it is “man’s most potent weapon”.


16 posted on 10/12/2012 11:13:03 PM PDT by dr_lew
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To: Talisker

Hillary Clinton is the most talentless female I have ever seen in my life.

She is a pure phony, a liar through and through, and a bore.

Everything she touches blows up in her face.

I expect that she will never attain the office of president no matter what happens.


17 posted on 10/12/2012 11:18:07 PM PDT by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: chris37
Biden desperately tried to throw Ryan off balance and failed. Joe Biden made himself himself and Obama look as though this was just another Barnum and Bailey Circus act. Next time we must assist and provide them with red, plastic noses.

Paul Ryan was as cool as a cucumber. At one point he protested the harassment and America could not disagree. Ryan was not drinking nor taking any anti-anxiety pills. Ryan's closing statement shined and even more so after taking so much sh!t from Biden. His media coach deserves a raise.

Ryan is a guy you would want covering your back in a fire-fight!

18 posted on 10/12/2012 11:29:16 PM PDT by IsraelBeach
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To: IsraelBeach
One more snub for Israel. Biden kept calling him BeBe.

Mr. Biden you were on the National Stage last night, representing the United States of America.

Your disrespect for Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu was a very obvious snub, by calling him simply BeBe. He is not your best buddy, he is a Prime Minister of Israel and deserves that respect.

Mr. Biden you have the right to make a fool of yourself, any time any place, but you have no right to make a fool of the United States. Please cease and desist immediately, you fool and grow up.

19 posted on 10/12/2012 11:29:20 PM PDT by annieokie (O)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

As a person who spent half his life wrapped tightly around a bottle, I think I speak from authority when I say that Joe is so habituated to alcohol that it would be much harder for him to function sober.

I think the only time he’s not been drinking is for the first hour or two of each day after waking up. Apart from that, his life is one big W.C. Fields impersonation.


20 posted on 10/12/2012 11:34:45 PM PDT by shibumi (Cover it with gas and set it on fire.)
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To: IsraelBeach

I could not agree with you more if I tried.

I found myself somewhat frustrated during this debate. I began listening to it in the car on my way home. Biden’s responses had me laughing out loud hard. I got home about 20 minutes in, and that’s when I started to see his behavior. I had to restrain myself from throwing my chinese food at the TV.

Ryan was rock solid. I was floored by his level of self control. It certainly exceeds mine. Mr. Ryan’s closing statement was magnificent. I say that with all the sincerity I have. If I was a hiring manager on a job interview, I would have hired him on the spot on that statement alone.

Ryan is definitely a guy whom I would want covering my back in a fire fight, but also, I would cover his back. This man is a good man.

God Speed, Mr. Ryan.


21 posted on 10/12/2012 11:46:30 PM PDT by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: IsraelBeach

I think Biden’s handlers set him up to act exactly as he acted. Biden and his team are dishonest brokers.


22 posted on 10/13/2012 1:37:50 AM PDT by GOPJ (You only establish a feel for the line by having crossed it. - - Freeper One Name)
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To: Secret Agent Man

I’d say drugs. It runs in the family.


23 posted on 10/13/2012 1:55:29 AM PDT by NTHockey (Rules of engagement #1: Take no prisoners)
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He was drunk on hubris.


24 posted on 10/13/2012 2:26:04 AM PDT by Gene Eric (Demoralization is a weapon of the enemy. Don't get it, don't spread it!)
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To: IsraelBeach

I think some of the rat poison (botox) may have leaked into the nervous system causing severe muscle twitching resulting in over stimulation of smiley face muscle contraction phenomenom.

Normal people get it when they know they are WAY over matched. Maybe that was it. He was just in way over his head and the dumb a$$hat knew it... Maybe??

Just my none medical diagnosis......


25 posted on 10/13/2012 3:07:34 AM PDT by eartick (Been to the line in the sand and liked it)
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To: chris37

At a couple of points, Biden talked to Martha Raddatz like she was a DOG; when she even DARED to further question his absurd claims (SO absurd that she lost all credibility if she failed to question further). Boorishly raised his drunken sounding voice and actually LECTURED the “little women”. (If anyone noticed, Martha was red in the face after that and looked like she was going to cry. Of course, Joe thought she “liked” it.)


26 posted on 10/13/2012 3:40:04 AM PDT by Twinkie (Live and let live.)
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To: Twinkie

that is nothing new...for years I always thought Martha Radditz looked like she was one breathe away from uncontrollably sobbing. Its just her demeaner, it had nothing to do with O’Biden.


27 posted on 10/13/2012 3:48:30 AM PDT by wareagle7295
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To: eartick

Was that lump over his left eyebrow due to botox?


28 posted on 10/13/2012 4:21:19 AM PDT by FES0844
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To: IsraelBeach
Joe Biden drunk on campaign trail (Youtube Video From 2008; Wasted While Introducing Obamas)


29 posted on 10/13/2012 4:45:14 AM PDT by SkyPilot
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To: FES0844

That is what my wife and I was thinking that he was “botoxed up”, the knot there and on the right hand side by the ear.

Maybe the reasoning we had not seen him for a while.


30 posted on 10/13/2012 4:51:24 AM PDT by eartick (Been to the line in the sand and liked it)
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To: Talisker

And how exactlu will she do that? she has no office, nothing. She will tire with the Americsn public. Then there are the primaries. Sarah Palin could see that there were capable people running and bowed out. Hillary is a joke.

I do see her distancing herself from Obama in these final days. They threw her under the bus with this Benghazi thing..


31 posted on 10/13/2012 4:51:33 AM PDT by nikos1121
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To: IsraelBeach

Joe slurs his words when drunk. It didn’t seem like that was the case.

Biden = Uppers
obama = Downers


32 posted on 10/13/2012 5:02:04 AM PDT by Right Wing Assault (Dick Obama is more inexperienced now than he was before he was elected.)
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To: Twinkie

You know, I hadn’t noticed that.

I have heard a number of women complain of Biden’s performance in an extremely negative manner, both on the radio in otherwise. I’m thinking that this may be why.

He really did try to come across as the smartest guy in the room, and treated any attempt to question that status with disdain.

Biden is a arrogant, ignorant, stupid jerk.


33 posted on 10/13/2012 7:49:04 AM PDT by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: aquila48
I too think Biteme’s behavior was planned, it just didn't work like they thought it would. He over did it and looked like a giggling fool. Oh yeah, he IS a giggling fool and has no place as VP.
34 posted on 10/13/2012 7:57:56 AM PDT by Ditter
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To: IsraelBeach
Biden was being Biden. That appeared to me to be his basic and normal behavior that he has exhibited during his tenure in the Senate.
35 posted on 10/13/2012 8:01:23 AM PDT by deport
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To: IsraelBeach

Biden made a total a** out of himself...he looked like a laughing hyenna on crack...


36 posted on 10/13/2012 8:32:39 AM PDT by little-e ((STOP THE WAR ON COAL-FIRE OBAMA))
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To: IsraelBeach
UPDATED Israel News Agency story:

Ryan Wins VP Debate - Was Biden Drinking?

37 posted on 10/13/2012 9:35:28 AM PDT by IsraelBeach
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To: IsraelBeach
This link should work! ;>

UPDATED Israel News Agency story:

Ryan Wins VP Debate - Was Biden Drinking?

38 posted on 10/13/2012 9:46:01 AM PDT by IsraelBeach
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To: FlingWingFlyer

Now just a cotton-pickin’ minit here. Let’s be fair. Joe Biden did interrupt, laugh and roll his eyes a lot, and said malarchy a few times, an Irish word, but did he take even one swing at Paul Ryan? Did he even threaten to? And why were they discussing politics instead of sports? Huh? Huh? Huh? Did he even try to cop of feel of Raddatz’ bozongos? So I’d say that while Joe Biden might have been drunk or high on some other artificial stimulant, the forum did not degenerate to a pub fight, Irish or otherwise. Still, all in all, it’s a good thing the chairs were firmly anchored to the floor.


39 posted on 10/13/2012 10:30:34 AM PDT by Eleutheria5 (End the occupation. Annex today.)
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To: little-e

Proverbs 29:9 “If a wise man has an argument with a fool, the fool only rages and laughs, and there is no quiet.”

Sound like anyone we know?


40 posted on 10/13/2012 10:39:28 AM PDT by oldfart (Obama nation = abomination. Think about it!)
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To: little-e

I have watched the “debate” 3-4 xs and I think Biden has a medical problem. The habit of laughing, facial expressions, a touch of anger, and twisting his comments.
Could be early stage dementia.


41 posted on 10/13/2012 12:29:30 PM PDT by malia
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To: garjog
Does Biden and his handlers think we are idiots?

No, he KNOWS we aren't idiots, but it isn't us he's addressing.

42 posted on 10/13/2012 3:40:13 PM PDT by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to Him.)
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To: aquila48
I really think the disrespectable smirks were planned...even rehearsed, per Alinsky rule #5... RULE 5: “Ridicule is man’s most potent weapon.” There is no defense. It’s irrational. It’s infuriating. It also works as a key pressure point to force the enemy into concessions.

I believe you are right... it was intentional - and rehearsed. Joe Trippi works for FOX NEWS. Someone needs to ask him - he would know.

43 posted on 10/13/2012 3:58:11 PM PDT by GOPJ (You only establish a feel for the line by having crossed it. - - Freeper One Name)
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To: FES0844

What I LOVED about the debate was that the camera behind Joe’s right side kept displaying his quite obvious BALD spot in the back that a front shot could not. They panned to it multiple times and made his “plugs” look even more ridiculous.


44 posted on 10/13/2012 3:59:32 PM PDT by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to Him.)
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To: oldfart
Another appropriate proverb:

"Never argue with an idiot. He'll drag you down to his level and then beat you with experience!"

45 posted on 10/13/2012 4:12:26 PM PDT by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to Him.)
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To: Jet Jaguar; NorwegianViking; ExTexasRedhead; HollyB; FromLori; EricTheRed_VocalMinority; ...

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Let me know if you would like to be on or off the ping list

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46 posted on 10/13/2012 8:42:51 PM PDT by Nachum (The List was hacked- www.nachumlist.com)
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To: IsraelBeach

Was he singing “The Villages” song?


47 posted on 10/13/2012 8:52:42 PM PDT by Jane Long (Soli Deo Gloria!)
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To: dr_lew
There’s a limit to everything. Ridicule is a powerful tool, but I think you’re already off on the wrong foot if you think it is “man’s most potent weapon”.

To be used effectively ridicule must be done on a constant but not aggressive basis. If you do what Biden did during the debates his attempt at ridicule made him look like a clown which he is.

If you want to look at effective ridicule, watch CBS and NBC and ABC. When reporting the news they will subtlety make comments that are moderate ridicule or facetious. In and of itself one day of this type of subtle ridicule has no effect. However, when this is used day after day after month after year it is deadly effective. If you look at what was done to Vice President Dan Quayle you can see how effective this is. Quayle made a few minor gaffs in office and on the campaign. They were minor and of no importance. Obama has made many more and not minor.

After 4 year of this low intensity constant ridicule of his minor gaffs the public perception of Quayle is that he is slow and stupid. He is not. He was a victim of classic character assassination using Saul Alinsky tactics.

48 posted on 10/13/2012 11:03:51 PM PDT by cpdiii (Deckhand, Roughneck, Mud Man, Geologist, Pilot, Pharmacist. THE CONSTITUTION IS WORTH DYING FOR!)
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To: IsraelBeach
Just competing with obama as to which has the lowest IQ.
49 posted on 10/13/2012 11:16:37 PM PDT by dalereed
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To: Slyfox

Historically, a POTUS’ second term is worse than his first. If the trend holds, we’re in trouble.


50 posted on 10/14/2012 6:24:41 AM PDT by griswold3 (Big Government does not tolerate rivals.)
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