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Libertarian Johnson could help Romney in Nevada
Daily Caller ^ | 10/11/12 | Caroline May

Posted on 10/13/2012 6:02:37 AM PDT by Siegfried X

While some may roll their eyes at Libertarian Party presidential nominee and marijuana-legalization champion Gary Johnson, recent polling shows that his presence on the ballot could have an effect on the presidential race, at least in Nevada.

A Public Policy Polling (PPP) survey released Wednesday found President Barack Obama has a four-point lead over Republican nominee Mitt Romney in Nevada (51-47 percent). But when Johnson is thrown into the mix, the former New Mexico governor garners three percent of the vote, largely pulling voters from Obama.

“When Gary Johnson’s included he gets 3 percent and actually takes mostly from Obama, pulling his lead over Romney down to 48/47,” PPP explained. “That could be something worth keeping an eye on.”

Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2012/10/11/poll-libertarian-party-nominee-could-be-spoiler-in-nevada-for-obama/#ixzz29BRJe7V7

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Nevada
KEYWORDS: 2012swingstates; libertarian; nv2012
51% Obama - 47% Romney without Libertarian Gary Johnson

48% Obama - 47% Romney - 3% Libertarian Gary Johnson

1 posted on 10/13/2012 6:02:41 AM PDT by Siegfried X
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To: Siegfried X; All

One of the worst political myths out there is “Third Party candidates cost the GOP elections”.

Third Party candidates do not lose elections for the GOP. It is liberal, and poor campaigning, GOP candidates that cost elections. Bush and Dole were poor candidates in 1992 and 1996 (respectively)...it wasn’t Ross Perot that caused the losses

No surprise that the Liberaltarian Johnson is affecting Obama more in Nevada. Obama is a weak candidate who is running a poor campaign...even his Race Card is now run up to the limit


2 posted on 10/13/2012 6:16:23 AM PDT by SeminoleCounty (Political maturity is realizing that the "R" next to someone's name does not mean "conservative")
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To: Siegfried X

PPP is a Dem polling op.

Don’t believe this for a minute. Our Nevada Paulbots are a special breed that would vote for anyone besides Romney.


3 posted on 10/13/2012 6:27:34 AM PDT by sf4dubya (I rebelled against my parents by becoming a conservative. REJECT THEN STOP SOCIALISM THIS NOV!)
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To: SeminoleCounty

Yeah, but poor and weak GOP candidates can sometimes win if they don’t have a strong third-party libertarian candidate also running.

Also, elections can be lost by a handful of votes and a conservative-leaning libertarian can take more than a handful from the GOP.

BTW the GOP is hopelessly corrupted IMO and needs either revolution or replacement. For that the libertarian fringe needs to be drawn in to an appealing small-government alternative, but not the alternative on its own.


4 posted on 10/13/2012 6:59:13 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: Siegfried X

Any libertarian that would vote for Obama needs to get his/her head examined. 1) “you didn’t build that” 2) tax increases for “fairness” 3) “economic patriotism” 4) executive order allowing no-habeus corpus detention of American citizens 5) FDA raiding Amish farms for producing raw milk 6) DEA raiding medical marijuana retailers in states that have legalized it 7) escalation of the use of forfeiture 8) Operation Fast & Furious...the list goes on...


5 posted on 10/13/2012 7:12:12 AM PDT by oblomov
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To: sf4dubya
PPP is a Dem polling op.

Don’t believe this for a minute. Our Nevada Paulbots are a special breed that would vote for anyone besides Romney.

Huh, see, that's exactly what I thought to explain why PPP's trend is correct. There are two types of third party voters in my experience: the die-hard supporters who will vote for their preferred third party no matter what and will write-in someone if there is no candidate. Those voters are irrelevant in any analysis of major party vote predictions.

The other type are protest voters who are dissatisfied with the candidate from the party they'd normally support. So, libertarians mostly concerned with economic issues (such as yours truly) are going to back Romney almost no question this time around. Libertarians mostly concerned with foreign policy -- most of the Paulestinians this time around seem to fit in this category -- aren't going to be thrilled at all voting for Mr. Drone Strike. I'd expect them to be more interested in "protest voting" than economic libertarians. Neither party appeals to libertarians primarily focused on social issues, so I think that's a draw.

The other advantage Johnson provides is a "non-partisan" focus on issues of liberty. Ross Perot ended Poppy Bush's changes not because he "stole" Republican voters but because he brought the budget to the forefront of the discussion in a way a partisan couldn't. That helped Clinton (as the major party non-incumbent). In my purely anecdotal observations, I think that is the bigger impact third party candidates have on elections as opposed to "stealing" votes.

6 posted on 10/13/2012 10:54:58 AM PDT by lgwdnbdgr
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To: Siegfried X

Ha, and Libertarians love to HATE republicans, it’ll be funny to see their pouty faces! I can’t stand liberaltarians.


7 posted on 10/13/2012 1:57:03 PM PDT by JSDude1
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To: 9YearLurker

THe problem is that Gary Johnson isn’t a conservative leaning libertarian he’s a liberal, and most Republicans know it.


8 posted on 10/13/2012 1:58:44 PM PDT by JSDude1
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