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Planned Parenthood “Two-for-One” Deal Not So Popular
Townhall.com ^ | October 13, 2012 | Steve Aden

Posted on 10/13/2012 6:03:48 AM PDT by Kaslin

Planned Parenthood is in the killing business. They perform approximately 324,000 abortions per year, using various methods on women at various stages of pregnancy.

For example, during a first trimester abortion, they usually suction out the child, or pieces of the child, through a tube inserted into the uterus. But during a second-trimester abortion, where the child has become too large to be killed and then sucked through a tube, Planned Parenthood performs a cervical dilation that allows them to get sharp instruments into the intended safety of the womb and kill the child so that it can then be “evacuated.”

It’s an ugly, immoral job, but by using phrases like “termination of pregnancy,” “pro-choice,” and “women’s health,” Planned Parenthood has been able to maintain both a quasi-respectable public image and their killing fields—all at the same time.

But for many, that all changed in July when 24-year old Tonya Reaves bled to death after an employee at a Planned Parenthood clinic in Chicago aborted Tonya’s baby in the second trimester.

Roughly 12 hours after the child had been dismembered and pulled from Tonya’s womb, the 24-year-old was pronounced dead.

This wasn’t by any means the first death of a would-be-mother at the hands of Planned Parenthood, but it was probably the most notorious, and the most shocking. So now Planned Parenthood has a problem—usually, only the baby dies. Having a dead mother, too, means phrases like “termination of pregnancy,” “pro-choice,” and “women’s health” simply aren’t apropos.

Moreover, although Planned Parenthood is historically known for some very objectionable ad campaigns, it’s fair to say a “Planned Parenthood Two-For-One Deal” probably won’t be in the works any time soon.

This tragedy has brought the deadly aspect of abortion—for the mother and not just the baby—out into the light for all to see. And now, some of those who never gave it a second thought are seeing behind the façade that has featured smiling abortionists, “keep your laws off my body” placards, and banners that read, “Wanting Every Child to be a Wanted Child.”

In the end, it’s not about women’s health, “pro-choice” sentiments, or “terminating pregnancies.” Nor is it about “wanted children” vs. “unwanted children” – both sides think every child should be wanted, but pro-lifers don’t think the solution is killing the child.

No, in the end, it’s all about killing for profit. And Planned Parenthood’s grand mistake in trying to hide this became evident when Tanya Reaves walked in with a child and both were dead within hours.

Sadly, had things gone as planned, one of them would still be dead.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial
KEYWORDS: abortion; plannedparenthood; prolife; waronwomen

1 posted on 10/13/2012 6:03:58 AM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

How can it be called “Planned Parenthood”???????
Should it not be “Parent Preventionhood”????????


2 posted on 10/13/2012 6:13:01 AM PDT by JW1949
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To: Mrs. Don-o

PING


3 posted on 10/13/2012 6:14:10 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: Kaslin

Abortions are voluntary (for now anyway)

Every woman vile and stupid enough to terminate their child’s life should have the right to off themselves as well.

ITs their body, you know.


4 posted on 10/13/2012 6:18:51 AM PDT by Gasshog
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To: Kaslin

I’ll confess up front that I have little sympathy for women who die or are permanently damaged from abortions.

One more woman who died as a result of “safe and legal” abortion isn’t going to change anyone’s attitudes. Women die every day from abortion.

I believe the challenge is to education young women before they decide to get pregnant. I think teaching them the facts about fetal development and about the dangers of abortion will make them a lot less likely to engage in unprotected intercourse.


5 posted on 10/13/2012 6:32:44 AM PDT by exDemMom (Now that I've finally accepted that I'm living a bad hair life, I'm more at peace with the world.)
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To: JW1949


Are you still killing your unborn?

-- GOD


 

6 posted on 10/13/2012 6:32:57 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Kaslin

They say
“Wanting Every Child to be a Wanted Child.”
but mean
“Every unwanted child a dead child.”


7 posted on 10/13/2012 6:35:24 AM PDT by I want the USA back
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To: JW1949

“Parenthood Prevention”?

No. These people are parents as soon as the baby is conceived. Mother AND dopey father. Killing the baby does not eradicate that.

How is that possible? If we had parents killing their children we would have a massive breakdown of the family, religion and just about everything good that comes froom those entities?

Oh.


8 posted on 10/13/2012 6:40:01 AM PDT by stanne
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To: Kaslin

Biden said he too believes that life begins at conception, which means that he supports taking life from an unborn child.


9 posted on 10/13/2012 6:51:33 AM PDT by KMG365
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To: exDemMom

They know what happens. It’s written in the natural law. These people are blocking out what happens and they are aided by our licentious culture.

And where are the men in your statement? Are they not a part of this or are they beyond educating?

A lot of them won’t give women the time of day if they are not going to pretend they’re married for the night.

Guys don’t care if their children are aborted.

A guy can say “I have three kids. . . that I know of” and people laugh. that’s part of the big problem.

That attitude was acceptable only among morally sick subcultures until the last thirty or forty years.

It’s still wrong and people know it. they don’t need to be taught.


10 posted on 10/13/2012 6:56:26 AM PDT by stanne
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To: Gasshog

I thought you were going to say, “every womant vile and stupid enough to have marital relations with a guy who doesn’t care about her nor the baby to consider the consequences”.


11 posted on 10/13/2012 7:00:45 AM PDT by stanne
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To: JW1949

> How can it be called “Planned Parenthood”???????

It’s more like Planned Barrenhood.

Or in places like China, Banned Parenthood.


12 posted on 10/13/2012 7:18:28 AM PDT by Westbrook (Children do not divide your love, they multiply it.)
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To: Kaslin

One of the funniest scenes from a movie was in the original “Cheaper By the Dozen” with Myrna Loy and Clifton Webb. It seems the family had just moved into a new home. The local PP group sent a “lady” to welcome the family. When the parents asked the “lady” if she wanted to meet the family, the dad whistled and all 12 kids lined up. The PP lady then became quite indignant and huffed out of the home.
Even in those early days, PP was anti family.


13 posted on 10/13/2012 8:17:57 AM PDT by copwife (All God's creatures have a place in the choir!)
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To: Kaslin

Planned Parenthood employees are the stormtroopers in the Democrat’s WAR ON BABIES.


14 posted on 10/13/2012 8:26:30 AM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: Kaslin
Every child is a wanted child. But the birth mother needs to relinquish her baby so that it may be adopted by the parent that wants the child.
15 posted on 10/13/2012 9:09:49 AM PDT by Excellence (9/11 was an act of faith.)
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To: stanne
And where are the men in your statement? Are they not a part of this or are they beyond educating?

They can be educated, but they aren't the ones choosing to get pregnant. It may sound sexist, but guys can be pushy and it really is up to the girl to say no, or to insist on being responsible.

Guys don’t care if their children are aborted.

That's a generalization. I have met guys who were horribly hurt by the fact that someone aborted their child. Other guys just don't care; they got what they wanted and have no consideration beyond that.

16 posted on 10/13/2012 9:31:45 AM PDT by exDemMom (Now that I've finally accepted that I'm living a bad hair life, I'm more at peace with the world.)
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To: exDemMom
Unprotected intercourse?

Half the babies aborted (well, 45%+) were conceived while the mother was using contraceptives.

The contraceptive attitude produces a seared conscence. It's an attitude that says

Once you've convinced yourself of that, than any pregnancy will strike you as an injustice and an imposition. "I did the responsiblee thing. I used a contraceptive. IT'S NOT FAIR!!!"

Abortion acceptance follows contraceptive acceptance as night follows day.

It may seem couneintuitive, but historically abortion rates rise AFTER the introduction of widespread contraception.

17 posted on 10/13/2012 2:19:35 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Just the facts, ma'am, just the facts.)
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To: stanne

Thanks for posting this. Women don’t get pregnant by themselves. All the sex ed classes these days apparently aren’t driving that point home.

What percentage of women visiting abortion clinics are married women seeking to terminate a pregnancy? What percentage are single women?


18 posted on 10/13/2012 2:28:19 PM PDT by thecodont
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To: exDemMom

“[guys] aren’t the ones choosing to get pregnant.”

Yes. I suppose this suggests they are animals with no thought or responsibility.

Well, that would be a problem.

“That’s a generalization. I have met guys who were horribly hurt by the fact that someone aborted their child”

It is a gerneralization. You are right. THere are certainly guys who are unhappy about it in a timely manner. The others will have to answer in any case and many before there’ll be time to repent. THey ARE responsible, no matter how this culture lets them off the hook.

I just think it’s 50-50, women vs men in the responsibility area.


19 posted on 10/13/2012 2:34:38 PM PDT by stanne
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Food is meant to be tasty and satisfying so the body can ingest nutrition for energy and the building of the individual body.

Sex is meant to be pleasant and satisfying so that a new life may be created and the human race may continue.

Contraception and abortion are to sex what bulimia is to food. They are destructive practices, not life-giving ones.

Sex is a powerful, life-giving force, but like fire it is a good servant and a poor master. Ripped out of its proper context of the family, it creates widespread destruction.


20 posted on 10/13/2012 2:36:51 PM PDT by thecodont
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To: Mrs. Don-o
Half the babies aborted (well, 45%+) were conceived while the mother was using contraceptives.

Let's be very specific about this. Around 25% of girls having abortions *claim* to have been using contraceptives at the time they got pregnant (according to studies). None of the studies can actually verify contraceptive use (nor do the study authors want to verify that). In my experience, I have *never* met someone who claimed to be using contraceptives when they got pregnant.

A very significant thing that I remember is that, back in the early 70s, right after Roe vs. Wade, a PP representative came to "educate" my high school biology class. She gave the failure rates of various contraceptives--none of them were less than 95% reliable; most were around 99%. But, after several years of easily accessible abortion, there is no contraceptive with over 80% reliability. Does that mean the contraceptives changed? No. It means that women are lying about using contraceptives when they weren't.

It may seem couneintuitive, but historically abortion rates rise AFTER the introduction of widespread contraception.

There are a number of reasons for that. One, is that more girls having intercourse leads to more pregnancies, no matter what kind of contraceptive is used. The other is that, if PP is giving the contraceptive information, they stress how unreliable and dangerous contraceptives are, and how safe abortion is in comparison--so that while they are giving lip service to encouraging contraceptive use, their actual action is to discourage it. (I remember this from my own experiences with PP as a teenager, and I have seen no evidence that PP's tactics have changed.)

21 posted on 10/13/2012 8:10:51 PM PDT by exDemMom (Now that I've finally accepted that I'm living a bad hair life, I'm more at peace with the world.)
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To: exDemMom
In my experience, I have *never* met someone who claimed to be using contraceptives when they got pregnant.

I know one. She had four babies in very quick secession after she got married and yes she did use birth control. She wanted kids but not four in 40 months.

Your PP rep back in the 70's was lying about how effective birth control is.

22 posted on 10/13/2012 8:20:57 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Fate plays chess and you don't find out until too late that he's been using two queens all along)
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear
In my experience, I have *never* met someone who claimed to be using contraceptives when they got pregnant.

I know one. She had four babies in very quick secession after she got married and yes she did use birth control. She wanted kids but not four in 40 months.

I'm sorry, I wasn't clear enough. What I should have said was that I have *never* met someone using abortion for birth control who claimed to be using contraceptives when they got pregnant.

It is my impression that women who are more conscientious about using birth control and get pregnant anyway are less likely to have abortions.

24 posted on 10/13/2012 10:02:51 PM PDT by exDemMom (Now that I've finally accepted that I'm living a bad hair life, I'm more at peace with the world.)
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To: exDemMom
Well, first off, I was wrong: it's not 45% of aborted babies who were conceived when mom was on contraceptives, but more like 54%, according to Guttmacher (Link). Other than that, my post is true as it stands.

You are right that this is based on self-reporting, which has recognized accuracy problems; but whatever the case, we know that in the aggregate, conraceptive use, abortions and STI's go up in tandem.

It may be failure rates are highest in Planned Parenthood’s customer base: among cohabitors, among low income, African-American and Hispanic women, among adolescents and women in their 20s. Adolescent women who are not married but cohabitating experience a failure rate of about 47% in the first year of contraceptive use.

In Sweden, between 1995 and 2001, teen abortion rates grew 32% during a period of vast expansion of access to low-cost condoms, oral contraceptives and over-the-counter emergency contraception. Similarly, National Review reported that “out of 23 studies on the effects of increased access to ECs, not one study could show a reduction in unintended pregnancies or abortions.”

Guttmacher showed simultaneous increases in both abortion rates and contraceptive use in the U.S., Cuba, Denmark, the Netherlands, Singapore, and South Korea.

A good 2012 article (Link).

For whatever combination of reasons, it is simply a demonstrated fact, recognized by the abortion industry itself, that increasing access to contraceptives increases abotions. We may be scratching our heads and saying "Why?" but the correlation is there: year after year, over and over and over again.

25 posted on 10/14/2012 8:21:47 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("God bless the child that's got his own." Billie Holiday / Arthur Herzog Jr)
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To: Mrs. Don-o
For whatever combination of reasons, it is simply a demonstrated fact, recognized by the abortion industry itself, that increasing access to contraceptives increases abotions. We may be scratching our heads and saying "Why?" but the correlation is there: year after year, over and over and over again.

I'm not going to go through everything point by point.

It is necessary to keep in mind that almost anyone reporting on birth control failures has an agenda. The Guttmacher Institute (aka Planned Parenthood) has a very strong motivation to encourage the belief that abortion does not result from irresponsible behavior. Some pro-life organizations, it seems, also promote the idea that contraceptives are useless, but for a different purpose. The one side promotes abortion, the other promotes abstinence. The true answer, I believe, lies somewhere else.

Just because contraceptives are made more available does not mean they will be used. I remember the Planned Parenthood sales pitch from the 1970s (I doubt it's changed). It was essentially this:

-Contraceptives have a high failure rate
-Contraceptives are extremely dangerous and could kill you
-The sex drive is too strong to be resisted
-Abortion is perfectly safe at any time
-A late-term abortion will permanently eliminate menstrual cramps

After a sales pitch like that, it is not surprising that a certain number of the target audience will end up buying abortion services.

If I had my way, women would pay for their own abortions--no subsidies, no tax-payer funds, no insurance. They would be accurately educated beforehand on the development of the fetus, they would be shown a high-quality ultrasound, and they would be shown the baby after the abortion. I'd also like to see "sex education" in schools that accurately discusses human prenatal development.

26 posted on 10/14/2012 5:45:54 PM PDT by exDemMom (Now that I've finally accepted that I'm living a bad hair life, I'm more at peace with the world.)
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To: exDemMom; Tax-chick
I "poisonally" think their aim is to get all females from menarche to menopause on long-term hormonal contraception. Develop a one-year implant, market it to everybody, train all health, education, and welfare personnel to push getting the implants renewed every year.

Result: very few abortions, very few live births, a nonstop cascade of STI's to keep the industry employed, endocrine disruptors in every watershed, egg-proteins in the testicles of all the aquatic vertebrates and most of the Justins, Jaydens and Jamals, a public "narrative" that says "We solved the problem! Praise Saint Sanger, it's win - win - win!" And when the cephalosporin-resistant gonorrhea gets going REAL good, exceedingly high female sterility (and death) rate --- venereal plagues --- and no more future generations!

Hosea 9:11 ff

Except for the Remnant, I suppose. The Amish and the Ummah.

Final Solution! Tra-la, Inshallah!

27 posted on 10/15/2012 7:31:17 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("God bless the child that's got his own." Billie Holiday / Arthur Herzog Jr)
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