Skip to comments.Biden: 'My Religion Defines My Life;' Pope: 'There Is a Grave & Clear Oblig to Oppose' Leg Abortion
Posted on 10/13/2012 7:42:18 AM PDT by NYer
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Too bad that in the debate— Ryan was not able to call Biden out on his bogus pro-abort version of Catholicism. Ryan would have blown the election if he had and its a shame. Such is political discourse today
Henry I. Miller, a physician, and the Robert Wesson Fellow in Scientific Philosophy and Public Policy at Stanford Universitys Hoover Institution,ASKS:
Dont voters have a right to know whether Biden is ill or merely unlikeable, impulsive and prone to deceitfulness?
Freeper ottbmare raised the same question. See post #37.
I agree with you.
Oh, Mario, with whom I am well acquainted, is as scandalous and heretical as any of these dopey non practicing Catholic politicians is much at fault, but by now at least people should be thinking about things, considering whether a politician is the one to follow or th Catechism.
I am sure you do this.
I agree but Ryan did a good job in showing they he is as different from Biden as day is to night. Even down to his manner; he was professional and Biden like a child.
They both claimed their beliefs define them; yet they are both Catholic. Biden looked like the useful fool he is. That would be frowned upon at 19 but not for a man who is 69 - it’s a disgrace.
You must have missed my other post, A day of judgment for liberal bishops. The majority of catholics I know (and probably you, as well) are ignorant of their faith. Moreover, they are 'liberated' and will not be dictated to by the Catholic Church. Yet, they consider themselves to be "practicing" catholics and attend mass on Sundays. Then there are the A & P catholics who show up at church on Ash Wednesday, Palm Sunday, Easter and Christmas. They too consider themselves "catholic". We consider them to be "cultural" catholics who were born into a catholic family and were baptized as infants. After First Communion, they were on their own (especially after the bishops left the decision to receive the Sacrament of Confirmation, up to the individual.
I am sure you do this.
When I joined my current parish 8+ years ago, I was asked to develop a religious education program and serve as its director. This was intended for the children but, in the process, I discovered something quite interesting about the parents. They too, were ignorant of their faith. I have since been replaced by a liberalized nun and been asked to take over the parish bulletin. As we enter the Year of Faith, I am using the bulletin to educate the parents. Each week, I include an article of faith, keeping it as simple as possible.
BTW, while serving as Director for Religious Education, one parent asked to enroll her 13 y/o daughter in the program. After learning that the child had been baptized, received her First Communion before the Sacrament of Reconciliation (never received - the Albany Diocese is ultra liberal). The dilemma - how to compensate for so much lost time. Having personally been educated decades ago through the Baltimore Catechism, I picked up two copies and worked one on one with her throughout the year. By May, she was ready to receive the Sacrament of Reconciliation. Ironically, in the process, another mother saw the BC on a pew, read through a few pages and was astounded at how much she did not know about her faith! Since then, it has been a personal mission to use whatever means available to educate these parents in their faith since they are the primary educators of their children.
As an aside, I maintain a "catholic ping list" for those interested in following important news stories. I noticed that you are not on that list. Please let me know if you would like to be added. I just posted an article on the Catholic Swing Vote from the Pew Forum and pinged the list. You might find these articles informative and we would value your input, too.
Lastly, I am a member of the parish of St. Ann. Love your freeper name!
You have inspo=ired me re writing for the bulletin. Recently picked up the Magnificat Year of Faith Companion - they’re going fast.
Having taught English in a Cath. Sch. I can tell you that the parents are the ones who need to be educated. The kids are very accepting of truth- not to be confused with malleability and brainwashing.
You read my name correctly, by the way.
Was considering getting onto the ping list just today. Go ahead and include me please.
I heard Gretchen say that, and she’s absolutely right. All in all, I thought Ryan comported himself quite well. I would have liked to have slapped Biden and Raddutz silly, however, but I wasn’t raise to do that either.
Correct, and once again the responsibility for this lies squarely at the feet of the American episcopate who for 40+ years stood silent while the left took over the church by replacing traditional catholic social teaching with the Marxist theory of "social justice". This is what allows CINOs to comfort themselves into believing they are still "good Catholics".
I really have to investigate this. It seems that the Church in the U.S. has been permitting the govt. (or persuading, maybe depending on) to do it’s social justice for it.
Have any of the writers done work on this? I’m sure they have.
I know this pope did a letter on charity in which he talks about subsidiarity. I know the Church does not go for this and it is a U.S. thing, to say nothing of other governments.
Indeed, but who is guilty to be punished for the abortion - mother? doctor? politician? facility? no one?
The key to Catholic social teaching is that charity is an obligation for all Catholics and that this is to be done at the most local possible level, which is why historically individuals and churches have been the champions of the poor whose focus was to help those in need get out of poverty. This is why the church has always had a strong social ministry in education because there is no surer escape from poverty than education.
The evil (and we should not mince words about this) of socialism is that under the guise of "caring" and "concern" it intentionally enslaves the poor by institutionalizing poverty and creating a culture of dependency (conveniently in exchange for votes in democratic governments). As I've mentioned in other posts, true charity is an opening of the heart from which many graces flow to both giver and recipient. Socialist "redistribution", by contrast, is a forced opening of the wallet which only results in resentment on the part of the involuntary "giver" and ingratitude on the part of the entitled recipient.
You have given me something to go on. I was aware of the situation with Humanae Vitae. And George Weigel has written on it. I’ll be sure to look into Pope Leo’s Encyclical.
Were Roe v Wade overturned, all abortion clinics would be closed. That eliminates clinic and politician. Life would revert back to the way it was pre Roe v Wade when abortions were illegal. To obtain one, it was necessary to seek out a doctor willing to risk prosecution, if caught ... or ... fly to a country where abortions are legal. In sum, if the abortion occurred in the US, both the mother and doctor would be held responsible for the crime of murder. Since I am not a lawyer, I cannot narrow this down to the degree of murder.
Oh. I will. But it seems like it’ll be torture.
Felt banners, percussion at Mass, nuns in bad polyester outfits, teaching the “doctrine” of “You’re OK; I’m OK” in religion and joining forces with Mario Cuomo and . . .