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Joltin’ Joe knocks Ryan out of the park (CELEBRATING SLOW-JOE)
Chicago Sun-Times ^ | Oct 13, 2012 | ROGER 'SIMPLE' SIMON

Posted on 10/13/2012 9:05:09 AM PDT by Chi-townChief

DANVILLE, Ky. — Whatever Joe Biden was drinking Thursday night, Barack Obama ought to order a case of it.

Biden took on Paul Ryan in the one and only vice presidential debate and did what Obama had failed to do last week in his debate with Mitt Romney: Biden not only won over the audience, but got under his opponent’s skin.

Biden smirked, sneered and openly laughed at many of Ryan’s responses. It could have looked rude, but Biden made it look tough.

After all, Biden was the 69-year-old defender, and Ryan was the 42-year-old challenger. But by the end of the evening, Joltin’ Joe had done real damage to his opponent.

In fact, as the 90 minutes flew by — it was the rare debate where one actually wanted it to go longer — Ryan began looking younger and younger. And not in a good way.

Both men have been in politics most of their adult lives, but Biden’s adult life has been longer. Biden was in the Senate so long, he knows a dozen ways of observing outward forms of politeness, while sticking a knife in your ribs and twisting it.

“With all due respect, that is a bunch of malarkey,” Biden said to Ryan at one point.

And how much respect is a bunch of malarkey due?

“This is a bunch of stuff,” Biden said of Ryan’s remarks at another point, leaving no doubt what word he meant instead of stuff.

“Romney said, ‘Aw, let Detroit go bankrupt,’ ” Biden said. “My friends and neighbors pay more than Gov. Romney in federal income tax! I’ve had it up to here!”

Ryan tried to dodge this right jab, but walked into a left hook instead. And it was of his own making. “He talks about Detroit?” Ryan said. “Mitt Romney is a car guy!”

Biden sat a few feet away from Ryan at the debate table and openly laughed in his face at this.

And one got the impression that Paul Ryan did not like to be laughed at. But did Biden care? He did not.

It was a very good evening for Biden, and he must have enjoyed the deliciousness of it: Barack Obama had easily knocked Biden out of the Democratic primaries four years ago, but here was Joe coming to Barack’s rescue now.

And instead of the score being Team Obama 0-2, it is now Team Obama 1-1.

Ryan was not knocked out. He had a few memorized zingers at his disposal. As to Romney’s now infamous “47 percent” statement, Ryan said, “Sometimes, as the vice president well knows, the words don’t always come out of your mouth the right way.”

The audience laughed at the reference to Biden’s past gaffes, but Biden didn’t make any gaffes Thursday night.

Instead, he not only stood his ground but advanced relentlessly on his opponent.

“Where did the recession come from?” Biden asked. “It came from this man’s voting!” And he stabbed his forefinger at Ryan like a dagger. “Their ideas are old, and their ideas are bad!”

Moderator Martha Raddatz did an admirable job of keeping the debate moving, even if she could not keep Biden from interrupting Ryan. Biden would interrupt the Devil himself, and one got the impression that Biden sometimes thought Ryan was the Devil himself.

Biden painted Ryan as a hypocrite by attacking the stimulus now, while begging for stimulus money in the past.

“He sent me two letters saying, by the way, ‘Can you send me stimulus money?’ ” Biden said. “ ‘It will create growth and jobs.’ Those are his words. And now, he’s sitting here looking at me?”

Ryan could only say weakly that, as a member of Congress, “that’s what we do.”

That’s what we do? Oh, my. That will never do.

“What would my friend do differently?” Biden said at one point. “My friend says 30 percent of people are takers.”

And by the end of the debate, Ryan had learned one thing: The only thing worse than being Joe Biden’s enemy is being called his friend.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2012debates; 2012veep; biden; debate2012; ryan
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To: Chi-townChief

Honestly? I expected to see The Onion as the origin of this article. I actually had to look twice before I believed this was real. Lucky the author writes in Obamaland. I doubt he could get a job anywhere else.


21 posted on 10/13/2012 9:29:14 AM PDT by originalbuckeye
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To: Chi-townChief

Honestly? I expected to see The Onion as the origin of this article. I actually had to look twice before I believed this was real. Lucky the author writes in Obamaland. I doubt he could get a job anywhere else.


22 posted on 10/13/2012 9:29:14 AM PDT by originalbuckeye
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To: Chi-townChief

Congrats Roger Simon! You have just been added to my FU list for Nov 7th! It’s a really long list!


23 posted on 10/13/2012 9:31:19 AM PDT by Batman11 (We came for the chicken sandwiches and a Sweet Tea Party broke out!)
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To: MissMagnolia

The entire article reads like a subtle warning about the dangers of lead paint.


24 posted on 10/13/2012 9:33:02 AM PDT by SpaceBar
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To: Chi-townChief

What a putz.


25 posted on 10/13/2012 9:33:35 AM PDT by Enterprise ("Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." Voltaire)
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To: Enterprise

How many documented lies did Biden tell, Simon you putz?


26 posted on 10/13/2012 9:35:44 AM PDT by Signalman
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To: Chi-townChief
The writer forgot tho think about the swing voters impression of Biden.
They saw a ignorant, brash; semi senile fool in Biden. In Ryan they saw a controlled, articulate problem solver.
27 posted on 10/13/2012 9:36:05 AM PDT by HereInTheHeartland (Encourage all of your Democrat friends to get out and vote on November 7th, the stakes are high.)
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To: Chi-townChief

I just love these satire pieces.


28 posted on 10/13/2012 9:37:25 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 ( If you think I'm crazy, just wait until you talk to my invisible friend.)
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To: Chi-townChief

The only reaction that came from the crowd was when Ryan pointed out that things don’t always come out of your mouth right, you should know that, Joe.

The crowd laughed.

So how this guy cane up with Joe winning over the crowd is preposterous.


29 posted on 10/13/2012 9:37:25 AM PDT by dforest
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To: Chi-townChief
So, this was printed in a newspaper?

And the main people who read newspapers will not remember it 5 minutes after finishing the article.

31 posted on 10/13/2012 9:37:45 AM PDT by N. Theknow (Kennedys=Can't drive, can't ski, can't fly, can't skipper a boat, but they know what's best for you.)
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To: Chi-townChief

The interesting thing how negative (toward the article) the comments are on the SunTimes website. That tells me that even in Chicago, this desperate spin isn’t working.


32 posted on 10/13/2012 9:38:06 AM PDT by vekzen
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To: Signalman

That’s one of those existential questions, like how many angels can stand on the head of a pin. We may never know how many lies Biden told.


33 posted on 10/13/2012 9:40:07 AM PDT by Enterprise ("Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." Voltaire)
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To: dforest
So how this guy cane up with Joe winning over the crowd is preposterous.

I am sure the DNC compensates the author rather handsomely.

34 posted on 10/13/2012 9:40:57 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 ( If you think I'm crazy, just wait until you talk to my invisible friend.)
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To: originalbuckeye

I have to constantly look because the left has become so unhinged that it is truly a living parody of its absurdest self.


35 posted on 10/13/2012 9:41:27 AM PDT by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: Chi-townChief

“Whatever Joe Biden was drinking Thursday night, Barack Obama ought to order a case of it. “

So.... the author admits Biden was ‘drinking’.


36 posted on 10/13/2012 9:42:26 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 ( If you think I'm crazy, just wait until you talk to my invisible friend.)
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To: Chi-townChief

He must have been watching a different debate than the one that I watched.


37 posted on 10/13/2012 9:46:29 AM PDT by Rocky (Obama is pure evil.)
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To: Chi-townChief

The debate took place on a college campus. The report comes from a Chicago newspaper. Wondering if Axelrod’s expensive PR firm supplies the copy for these hit pieces. My money’s on the wholesome guys and the Silent Majority.


38 posted on 10/13/2012 9:46:29 AM PDT by ntnychik
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To: Chi-townChief

Biden destroyed an innocent American’s life and smiled all the way!
Joe Biden - Bearing false witness, as usual!
http://towncriernews.blogspot.com/search?q=Biden


39 posted on 10/13/2012 9:47:33 AM PDT by AuntB (Illegal immigration is simply more "share the wealth" socialism and a CRIME not a race!)
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To: Chi-townChief

I believe “Joltin’ Joe” is taken, Roger. I’ve studied Joltin Joe and Joe Biden is no Joltin Joe. Jackoff Joe is the better term for Biden. Joltin’ Joe was a humble man who let his performance on the field speak for his greatness. Jackoff Joe Biden lied about playing football in college. Turns out, all he did was serve as a flag washer for a flag football team. Only a true sycophant would try to steal Joltin’ Joe’s nickname and give it to a putz who makes things up. What a worthless writer you are, Roger. There’s a wall in a bathroom stall just waiting for your wit and wisdom.


40 posted on 10/13/2012 9:48:31 AM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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