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I disagree a bit with Kudlow. I think Ryan started off a bit shaky, but his performance grew stronger as the debate wore on.
1 posted on 10/13/2012 2:16:55 PM PDT by oblomov
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I don’t think Kudlow was talking of delivery as much as content.
I honestly think we have lost the ability to LISTEN to what a person is saying as much as focusing on how they “ look” and what we “ see”.....
Maybe, just MAYBE AMERICANS are finally opening their ears! Sure hope so...


2 posted on 10/13/2012 2:21:55 PM PDT by pollywog ("O Thou who changest not, abide with me.".......)
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I don’t think Kudlow was talking of delivery as much as content.
I honestly think we have lost the ability to LISTEN to what a person is saying as much as focusing on how they “ look” and what we “ see”.....
Maybe, just MAYBE AMERICANS are finally opening their ears! Sure hope so...


3 posted on 10/13/2012 2:22:05 PM PDT by pollywog ("O Thou who changest not, abide with me.".......)
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It is worth noting that this debate centered around foreign policy, which should have heavily favored Biden. The story could easily have been that Ryan isn't ready to assume the presidency because he's a domestic policy exprt only, and yet the only question is whether Biden's misstatements will have an impact.

Ryan really isn't getting enough credit for his performance.

4 posted on 10/13/2012 2:26:01 PM PDT by NittanyLion
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On composure alone, Paul Ryan came off looking good, in standing off a blustering bully who could not keep his facts or his face straight for ten seconds running.

Trying to shrug off what Joe Biden was doing, excusing it as “Joe just being Joe”, is to put lipstick on a pig, and calling it a ballerina. Joe was graceless, combative, and downright RUDE, and those were his GOOD qualities.

He was also stupid, uninformed, and completely WRONG on the few “facts” he managed to muster, and let the cat out of the bag on Benghazi, claiming the “intelligence community” had failed to keep the White House informed. If you never show up for briefings, how could ANYBODY be informed?

Plausible deniability does not apply here, this is DELIBERATELY remaining uninformed, therefore, everything is somebody else’s fault.

Valerie Jarrett knew EVERYTHING that was going on, as SHE never missed any of the briefings, yet she never passed the concerns on to either Obama or Biden. Of course, since she is the de facto President, and has made many if not most of the decisions in the name of the Oval Office, any onus should fall upon her the heaviest.


6 posted on 10/13/2012 2:36:46 PM PDT by alloysteel ("You have attributed conditions to villainy that simply result from stupidity".)
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Decide for yourself whether Biden was out of line – here are the 85 interruptions of Joe Biden:
https://vimeo.com/51308728


13 posted on 10/13/2012 5:55:20 PM PDT by Fitzy_888 ("ownership society")
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What's the surprise? He's been a Congressman for FOURTEEN years. Not everybody has Obama’s LACK of experience.
14 posted on 10/13/2012 6:44:37 PM PDT by faucetman ( Just the facts, ma'am, Just the facts)
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15 posted on 10/13/2012 6:50:59 PM PDT by PMAS (All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing)
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I disagree a bit with Kudlow. I think Ryan started off a bit shaky, but his performance grew stronger as the debate wore on.

I disagree with you both, and award the debate to Biden. These are not "debates" in the sense that Albertus Magnus and Thomas Aquinas used the word. They are a three way cross between a high-school forensics contest, the Westminster dog show, and a WWF "Smackdown". Biden won because he bullied Ryan without effectively being "handled", and bullying is what counts with the slope-brows who are Obama's constituency and the Friday-night-wrestling fans who mostly constitute the "undecideds". Who, Karl Rove tells us, will decide the election.

The only thing Ryan has going for him is that, again, Rove's Holy Grail of 330,000 "undecided women" in 10 battleground States may give Ryan the benefit of the "diddums-wuzzums" factor and decide that Joe Biden was being a meanie.

17 posted on 10/13/2012 10:27:57 PM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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