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Florida Passes Plan For Racially-Based Academic Goals
tampa bay cbs ^ | 10/12/2012 | staff

Posted on 10/13/2012 7:01:34 PM PDT by tobyhill

The Florida State Board of Education passed a plan that sets goals for students in math and reading based upon their race.

On Tuesday, the board passed a revised strategic plan that says that by 2018, it wants 90 percent of Asian students, 88 percent of white students, 81 percent of Hispanics and 74 percent of black students to be reading at or above grade level. For math, the goals are 92 percent of Asian kids to be proficient, whites at 86 percent, Hispanics at 80 percent and blacks at 74 percent. It also measures by other groupings, such as poverty and disabilities, reported the Palm Beach Post.

The plan has infuriated many community activists in Palm Beach County and across the state.

“To expect less from one demographic and more from another is just a little off-base,” Juan Lopez, magnet coordinator at John F. Kennedy Middle School in Riviera Beach, told the Palm Beach Post.

(Excerpt) Read more at tampa.cbslocal.com ...


TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: discrimination; floriduh; naughtyteacherslist; quotas; racialdivision; racism; reeducationcenters
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1 posted on 10/13/2012 7:01:38 PM PDT by tobyhill
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To: tobyhill

PATHETIC


2 posted on 10/13/2012 7:04:53 PM PDT by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal The 16th Amendment!)
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To: tobyhill

Somebody tell me why this isn’t institutional racism.


3 posted on 10/13/2012 7:06:25 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("God bless the child that's got his own." Billie Holiday / Arthur Herzog Jr)
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To: tobyhill

Michael Gerson would be so proud?


4 posted on 10/13/2012 7:07:51 PM PDT by IllumiNaughtyByNature ($1.84 - The price of a gallon of gas on Jan. 20th, 2009.)
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To: tobyhill

I assume that 95% across the board would somehow be racist.


5 posted on 10/13/2012 7:08:58 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Ambassador Stevens Is Dead And The Chevy Volt Is Alive)
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To: tobyhill
Well, the math quotas might be working. Monique could count 6 Obamaphones she was hording in her purse, plus 30 more Obamaphones at home, and could calculate that it took 5 minutes to get each new phone.

Woman hoards "30" Government Life line phones or Obama phones

6 posted on 10/13/2012 7:09:47 PM PDT by SkyPilot
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To: tobyhill

Get the unions out of teaching and do the dam job.


7 posted on 10/13/2012 7:13:58 PM PDT by A CA Guy ( God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: A CA Guy
Get the unions out of teaching and do the dam job.

But our dams are working... :)

8 posted on 10/13/2012 7:16:08 PM PDT by wastedyears (The First Law of Heavy Metal: Not all metal is satanic.)
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To: tobyhill
This is just wrong at too many levels

Unless, one predicates that genetic predilection for
superior or inferior cognitive skills are a rational concept,
but I thought that one was buried long ago

Imagine the uproar that would occur if
gender disparities were institutionalized

9 posted on 10/13/2012 7:16:38 PM PDT by HangnJudge
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To: Mrs. Don-o

If there were no baseline of unequal achievement among groups, then different goals would be stupid. On the other hand if one group is performing poorly at say 50 percent and another group is performing very well at perhaps 90 percent, you tell me how they are going to be performing at the same level next year.

If the board wants to set standards permanently low for a group, that is a travesty. If the board wants to grant special privileges to an underperforming group, that is unequal treatment.


10 posted on 10/13/2012 7:17:50 PM PDT by jimfree (In Nov 2012 my 12 y/o granddaughter has more relevant&quality executive experience than Barack Obama)
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To: unixfox

This could very well have HUGH blowback


11 posted on 10/13/2012 7:22:01 PM PDT by mazda77 ("Defeating the Totalitarian Lie" By: Hilmar von Campe. Everybody should read it.)
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To: SkyPilot
WOW! Unbelievable. I know the USF can't cover the cost of all the phones being given away so I'm also sure ALL taxpayers are paying for it.
12 posted on 10/13/2012 7:22:19 PM PDT by tobyhill (Obamacare, the final nail in the US coffin.)
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To: tobyhill

racists


13 posted on 10/13/2012 7:24:02 PM PDT by jjw
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To: tobyhill

This is so outrageous as to be almost unbelievable. All, and I mean all, goals should be based on potential not race. If nothing else, this is telling some groups that they are so stupid that they need help making the grade.

I equate this to signs that are in English and Spanish ... tells those of Hispanic origin that they are to stupid to understand English. Why not signs with every language on earth?


14 posted on 10/13/2012 7:25:50 PM PDT by doc1019
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To: tobyhill

Democrats should just go ahead and give blacks 20 acres and a mule.


15 posted on 10/13/2012 7:26:30 PM PDT by Licensed-To-Carry (Hey Obama! All you have done is awaken a sleeping giant and filled us with a terrible resolve!!)
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To: tobyhill
I can't find the metrics on this.

Different passing grades for whites vs. blacks vs. Hispanics ?

16 posted on 10/13/2012 7:28:42 PM PDT by stylin19a (Obama ->The Jayson Blair administration)
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To: tobyhill

17 posted on 10/13/2012 7:29:47 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy (ua)
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To: doc1019
...this is telling some groups that they are so stupid that they need help making the grade.

School: Teacher Helps Students Cheat Because She Says They’re ‘Dumb As Hell’

18 posted on 10/13/2012 7:32:03 PM PDT by Libloather (The epitome of civility.)
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To: tobyhill

Paging Abigail Thernstrom!


19 posted on 10/13/2012 7:33:56 PM PDT by Uncle Miltie (You didn't build that. The private sector is doing fine. We tried our plan and it worked.)
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To: jimfree
Your point is well-made. We have to try for some improvement in every group, no matter where their starting point.

I wonder how it would look if they divided students' scores by sex rather than by race?

Or by nationality? (Polish, Irish, German, Lithuanian ancestry) Or by religion? (Cathoic, Baptist, MOrmon, Jewish...)

Or --- HEY! this would get people's attention--- by zip code:

33820
33822
33901
33930... and so forth

With all the different target scores for different geographic neighborhoods. Wouldn't that shake people up?

Why is it always race?

20 posted on 10/13/2012 7:33:58 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("God bless the child that's got his own." Billie Holiday / Arthur Herzog Jr)
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To: tobyhill
The plan has infuriated many community activists in Palm Beach County and across the state.

Community activists? What does the POTUS think?

21 posted on 10/13/2012 7:33:58 PM PDT by Gamecock
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To: unixfox

Yes pathetic. So are they going to adjust qualification tests for jobs and promotions to a lower score for blacks also?


22 posted on 10/13/2012 7:43:22 PM PDT by rawhide
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To: tobyhill
USF went into the red in 2011 for paying for the phones & service.
Safelink is onwed by Ameican Movil and is a Mexican teclcom.

12.5 million phones from all carriers subsidized @ approx. 10 bucks a month per phone.

Couldn't even give the business to a US firm.

Problem is, this has been flying under the radar for awhile and started long before Obama....back to land-line days.

23 posted on 10/13/2012 7:48:09 PM PDT by stylin19a (Obama ->The Jayson Blair administration)
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To: tobyhill
Florida is a “right to work” state.

Government employees are the only large unions in this entire state.

I now understand why my local Superintendent of Schools suddenly announced her immediate retirement.

Fire every damn one of these FDOE assholes!

24 posted on 10/13/2012 7:48:34 PM PDT by sarasmom
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To: jimfree
Or here's one: Income.

Divide students by family income in $20,000 increments:

$20,000

$40,000

$60,000

$80,000

etc, and get your base scores and target scores accordingly.

That would be interesting, no?

25 posted on 10/13/2012 7:50:29 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("God bless the child that's got his own." Billie Holiday / Arthur Herzog Jr)
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To: jimfree
Actually, what it is doing is instituting realism into the system.

This will not be allowed to stand. They will be apologizing for their temerity in a week.

26 posted on 10/13/2012 7:50:33 PM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: tobyhill

The racism of low expectations. Liberal nirvana.


27 posted on 10/13/2012 7:56:37 PM PDT by chessplayer
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To: mazda77

If I were black and had kids in school, I would be furious.


28 posted on 10/13/2012 7:58:16 PM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: tobyhill

Well, it seems that the way to make everybody equal, is to make blacks feel very deficient and incapable, while Asians become the superior race. White and Hispanics should feel somewhat superior to blacks, but not by much.

Essentially, the way to make blacks feel better about themselves, is to call them mentally deficient. Nice!


29 posted on 10/13/2012 7:59:07 PM PDT by adorno
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To: Libloather

A black woman I work with (my daughter works at the same place) has elementary aged children. My daughter said one day they were in her office and her daughter was trying to read (I think she’s in first grade) and was struggling with some words. Her mother told her she was “dumb as hell”. How in the world can a mother talk to her child like that and expect them to learn?

By the way, I have heard the mother read and she, too, is “dumb as hell”!


30 posted on 10/13/2012 8:03:13 PM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: tobyhill
The Florida State Board of Education passed a plan that sets goals for students in math and reading based upon their race.

But don't you dare call any race inferior.

31 posted on 10/13/2012 8:13:11 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Government is the religion of the psychopath.)
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To: tobyhill
I teach in an urban, racially mixed high school. Many of our students are from African or Asian families while others are from families that have been here for generations. It makes me angry to see the low academic achievement of many of these kids. I'm dealing with 15 or 16 year old students who read at a mid-elementary school level. They don't have the capacity to read textbooks or write coherent sentences, let alone understand high school science. They've been done a terrible disservice by a community that cossets them and promotes them from grade to grade when they haven't learned even the most basic skills. Most of them plan to go to college. I expect that with AA programs, they'll be accepted somewhere, given grants or loans to pay for it, and end up with diplomas and government jobs.

Most of the youngsters from Asian or African immigrant families are working their backsides off to get ahead. I have honors students who have only been in the country a few years but they're making headway, learning, and achieving. Big, big contrast. These kids simply don't accept a lower standard for themselves. I wish all our students would follow their example.

32 posted on 10/13/2012 8:19:13 PM PDT by Think free or die
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To: HangnJudge

Uhh, go take a look at The Bell Curve. It is a rational concept. Which is a very politically incorrect thing to say, but it is also reality, and there you have it.


33 posted on 10/13/2012 8:20:50 PM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est.)
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To: FreedomPoster

You are right, the evidence indicates that it is a rational concept. You can get in a lot of trouble for pointing this out, but it’s where the evidence leads. Look what they did to Dr. Rushton up in Canada.


34 posted on 10/13/2012 8:28:49 PM PDT by River Hawk
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To: tobyhill

Black Pride:

“It’s Official! - We’re the most stupid people in the country!”


35 posted on 10/13/2012 8:35:09 PM PDT by Iron Munro (Psalm 109:8 "Let his days be few, and let another take his office.")
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To: tobyhill

OK,

So Asians make the most money, then Whites, then Hispanics and lastly Blacks.... is that alright then ?

of course not.

People will rise to what is expected. If you expect less you get less.


36 posted on 10/13/2012 8:44:55 PM PDT by mike_9958
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To: tobyhill
and the RATS expect them to be able to get a JOB with that kind if degree???

well, i guess there's always affirmative action...

37 posted on 10/13/2012 8:50:53 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: tobyhill

Numbers be what numbers is.


38 posted on 10/13/2012 8:52:16 PM PDT by WackySam (Obama got Osama just like Nixon landed on the moon.)
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To: tobyhill
...it wants 90 percent of Asian students, 88 percent of white students, 81 percent of Hispanics and 74 percent of black students to be reading at or above grade level.

If they were smart about this, they would do what police and fire departments across the nation have been forced to do - - give each of these democraphics a different test based on its stupidity level.

39 posted on 10/13/2012 9:01:36 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: chessplayer
The racism of low expectations. Liberal nirvana.

And every time a black voter pulls the lever for a Democrat, the racism of low expectations is exactly what they are voting for.
So screw them.

40 posted on 10/13/2012 9:08:59 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: tobyhill

I’m not sure what the definition of “grade level” is, but this plan sounds like they expect 74% to 90% of students to be above average.

Don’t have far to go till they reach the Lake Woebegon level where ALL the children are above average.

A British newspaper recently had a semi-spoof headline stating the shocking news that almost 50% of British students were performing below average.

Think about it.


41 posted on 10/13/2012 9:11:02 PM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: Lancey Howard

Actually, they generally give them the same test, then “race norm” the results. IOW, the curve is calculated separately for each racial group. Blacks who score 90 on the “black curve” are treated equally to white who score 90 on the “white curve,” even though 90 on the black curve is only 60 on the white curve. Or whatever the results.


42 posted on 10/13/2012 9:14:16 PM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: tobyhill; Revolting cat!; Slings and Arrows; JoeProBono

43 posted on 10/13/2012 9:18:57 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (Obama likes to claim credit for getting Osama. Why hasn't he tried Khalid Sheikh Mohammed yet?)
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To: Iron Munro

What about gay black people?


44 posted on 10/13/2012 9:23:15 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (Obama likes to claim credit for getting Osama. Why hasn't he tried Khalid Sheikh Mohammed yet?)
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To: Sherman Logan
Actually, they generally give them the same test, then “race norm” the results. IOW, the curve is calculated separately for each racial group. Blacks who score 90 on the “black curve” are treated equally to white who score 90 on the “white curve,” even though 90 on the black curve is only 60 on the white curve. Or whatever the results.

Okay, then that's what Florida should do. And companies who are forced to fill quotas can continue to fill up their "Human Resources" departments with the most literate blacks they can find.

Who in God’s name would want to subject himself to a black doctor or surgeon, knowing that that doctor or surgeon may have been coddled through school thanks to “affirmative action”? Who could trust any black professional for that matter? But mostly, how can brilliant black professionals who worked their asses off and earned (and deserve) everything they attained just sit back and allow their own accomplishments and credibility to be tainted by “affirmative action” policies? But you know what? For the most part, the silence of smart, educated blacks is deafening. And they still (mostly) vote Democrat. So... screw them.

Man, if I was black I think I would scream to the heavens to dump “affirmative action” in the ocean somewhere. What an insulting slap in the face “affirmative action” is to those smart, hard-working blacks who deserve respect.

45 posted on 10/13/2012 9:45:29 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Lancey Howard

Quite agree.


46 posted on 10/13/2012 10:01:19 PM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: a fool in paradise
“Gay black people” get an automatic A.
47 posted on 10/13/2012 11:30:02 PM PDT by tobyhill (Obamacare, the final nail in the US coffin.)
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To: tobyhill

F for FABULOUS.


48 posted on 10/13/2012 11:33:54 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (Obama likes to claim credit for getting Osama. Why hasn't he tried Khalid Sheikh Mohammed yet?)
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To: tobyhill

C for CISSY?


49 posted on 10/13/2012 11:34:19 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (Obama likes to claim credit for getting Osama. Why hasn't he tried Khalid Sheikh Mohammed yet?)
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To: tobyhill

A for ARROGANT!


50 posted on 10/13/2012 11:34:41 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (Obama likes to claim credit for getting Osama. Why hasn't he tried Khalid Sheikh Mohammed yet?)
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