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The Benghazi Scandal
The Weekly Standard ^ | The October 22, 2012 Issue | Stephen F. Hayes

Posted on 10/13/2012 10:12:48 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

Three hours before the vice presidential debate here on October 11, Stephanie Cutter, a top spokesman and deputy campaign manager for Barack Obama, previewed Joe Biden’s explanation for the administration’s ever-changing narrative on the deadly 9/11 attack on the U.S. consulate in Benghazi, Libya. In short: The intelligence made us do it. The reason administration officials repeatedly told the country a story that was untrue—in virtually all its particulars—is that they got bad information from the intelligence community. Or so they say.

At the debate, moderator Martha Raddatz noted “there were no protesters” that day in Libya, and asked Biden why the administration’s talk of protests “went on for weeks.”

Biden answered directly: “Because that’s exactly what we were told by the intelligence community. The intelligence community told us that. As they learned more facts about exactly what happened, they changed their assessment.”

Cutter pointed to a September 28 statement from Shawn Turner, a spokesman for the Office of the Director of National Intelligence (ODNI). “Take a look at the director of national intelligence’s statement, which you may disagree with, but you can’t accuse them of playing politics,” Cutter told Fox News anchor Bret Baier. “His statement, two weeks after the attack, said that there was an original conclusion that people were taking advantage of protests surrounding that [anti-Muslim] video to attack the embassy. We then learned weeks later that it was a deliberate, premeditated attack by terrorists.”

First, it’s worth noting that the statement did not come from Director of National Intelligence James Clapper, as Cutter claimed. It came from a spokesman. This isn’t a trivial distinction. Much thought is put into whose name goes on statements like this. Why wasn’t it Clapper’s?

Second, Cutter’s timeline and the ODNI statement are not consistent. Cutter claims the White House learned the truth about the attacks “weeks later.” The statement from the ODNI spokesman says only that the earliest assessment, “in the immediate aftermath,” turned out to be wrong. The statement reads, in relevant part: “In the immediate aftermath, there was information that led us to assess that the attack began spontaneously following protests earlier that day at our embassy in Cairo. .  .  . As we learned more about the attack, we revised our initial assessment to reflect new information indicating it was a deliberate and organized terrorist attack carried out by extremists.”

The obvious question: When did the intelligence community tell the White House (and other policymakers) that the assault on the compound was a premeditated terrorist attack conducted by al Qaeda-linked jihadists? Was it really weeks later as both Biden and Cutter claim?

It was not. Two U.S. officials familiar with the reporting on the Benghazi attack tell The Weekly Standard that revisions to the initial reports came within days—sometimes within hours. Intelligence products published on September 12, sources tell us, included detailed evidence that al Qaeda-linked jihadists were involved in the Benghazi attacks.

* As first reported by Newsweek’s Eli Lake, within hours of the attack, “U.S. intelligence agencies monitored communications from jihadists affiliated with the group that led the attack and members of Al Qaeda in the Islamic Maghreb (AQIM), the group’s North African affiliate.” Lake reported that the intelligence was so detailed, U.S. officials “had even pinpointed the location of one of those attackers.”

* Senior State Department officials were in contact with security agents on the ground in Benghazi, in real time, as the attacks unfolded. In conversations that evening and the next day U.S. officials in Libya gave no indication that there had been any protest of any kind.

* On September 12, the New York Times reported: “American and European officials said that while many details about the attack remained unclear, the assailants seemed organized, well trained and heavily armed, and they appeared to have at least some level of advance planning.”

* That same day, Representative Mike Rogers, chairman of the House Intelligence Committee, said he had no doubt the attacks were planned. “It was a coordinated, military-style, commando-type raid.”

* Democrats said the same thing. Representative Adam Smith, a member of the House Armed Services Committee, said: “This was not just a mob that got out of hand. Mobs don’t come in and attack, guns blazing. I think that there is a growing consensus it was preplanned.”

* Senator Carl Levin, leaving a briefing with Secretary of Defense Leon Panetta, was asked if the attack was planned: “There’s been evidence of that. .  .  . The attack looked like it was planned and premeditated, sure.”

* On September 14, a U.S. official told Reuters that while the question of planning was an open one, “Everything I have seen says this was a highly armed, organized attack. Not a mob reacting to a movie.”

The officials who gave these assessments—elected and unelected, Democrat and Republican—were in a position to do so for one reason: the intelligence. Most important: There is no intelligence whatsoever linking the Benghazi attack to the anti-Muslim video.

Notice that all of those assessments came before U.N. ambassador Susan Rice appeared on five political talk shows September 16 and linked the Libya attack to the video. And they came well before Barack Obama appeared on David Letterman on September 18 and did the same.

Obama: You had a video that was released by somebody who lives here, a sort of shadowy character who is extremely offensive video directed at Muhammad and Islam.

David Letterman: Making fun of the Prophet Muhammad.

Obama: Making fun of the Prophet Muhammad. And, so, this caused great offense. In much of the Muslim world. But, what also happened was extremists and terrorists used this as an excuse to attack a variety of our embassies, including the consulate in Libya.

There are two possibilities. Either the intelligence community had a detailed picture of what happened in Benghazi that night and failed to share it with other administration officials and the White House. Or the intelligence community provided that detailed intelligence picture to others in the administration, and Obama, Biden, Clinton, Susan Rice, and others ignored and manipulated the intelligence to tell a politically convenient—but highly inaccurate—story.

If it’s the former, DNI James Clapper should be fired. If it’s the latter, what happened in Benghazi—and what happened afterwards—will go down as one of the worst scandals in recent memory.

It seems far more likely that it’s the latter. After all, is it conceivable that White House officials at the highest levels were not actively engaged in interagency meetings to determine what happened in Benghazi? Is it conceivable that intelligence officials, knowing there was no evidence at all of a link between the film and Benghazi, would fail to tell the president and his colleagues that their claims were unfounded? Is it conceivable that somehow the latest intelligence on the 9/11 attacks was left out of Obama’s intelligence briefings in the days after 9/11? It would have been a priority for every professional at the CIA, the State Department, and the National Security Council to discover exactly what happened in Benghazi as soon as possible. Is it conceivable that the information wasn’t passed to the most senior figures in the administration?

No, it’s really not. And therefore, the fact that these senior figures misled us—and still mislead us—is a scandal of the first order.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government
KEYWORDS: alqaeda; benghazi; benghazicoverup; benghazigate; benghazitimeline; democrats; hillary; impeachnow; libya; obama; scandal; shadowwars; threatmatrix; waronterror
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1 posted on 10/13/2012 10:12:57 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
..”There are two possibilities. Either the intelligence community had a detailed picture of what happened in Benghazi that night and failed to share it with other administration officials and the White House. Or the intelligence community provided that detailed intelligence picture to others in the administration, and Obama, Biden, Clinton, Susan Rice, and others ignored and manipulated the intelligence to tell a politically convenient—but highly inaccurate—story.”

I'm surprised at the Weekly Standard. The answer is a third likelihood (not possibility)... that the whole thing was preplanned and staged and somehow failed. It's becoming pretty clear that this is a scandal of enormous proportions.

2 posted on 10/13/2012 10:21:49 PM PDT by Sleeping Freeper
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I agree with the conclusion that we were lied to, but hard to understand why. No matter what the truth was going to come out. The CHAOS mongers will meet their day of reckoning...sooner than later I hope.


3 posted on 10/13/2012 10:26:56 PM PDT by Sioux-san
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To: Sioux-san

Everyone keeps saying this was Al-qaida, but where’s the proof on that?


4 posted on 10/13/2012 10:30:26 PM PDT by Sioux-san
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To: Sleeping Freeper

They’re too beltway establishment to go there. Remember: Bill Kristol owns that outfit.


5 posted on 10/13/2012 10:31:30 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You cannot invade the mainland United States. There would be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Let’s not forget about the dozens of people that were killed and injured around the world protesting at our Embassies because this administration put the focus on a film that no one would have even know or heard about if they weren’t so adamant about blaming it and talking about it.


6 posted on 10/13/2012 10:32:52 PM PDT by Linfell
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
[I]s it conceivable that White House officials at the highest levels were not actively engaged in inter agency meetings to determine what happened in Benghazi?

It seems to stand as a fact they did not lift a finger before or during the attack to project anything but groveling before our enemies, so yes, it is conceivable they would be negligent in any follow up as well, even to the point of forensically destroying the scene of the "crime".

7 posted on 10/13/2012 10:32:53 PM PDT by Fester Chugabrew (ABO to the core.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

BTTT

VOTE HIM OUT.

His entire regime must go.


8 posted on 10/13/2012 10:42:25 PM PDT by onyx (FREE REPUBLIC IS HERE TO STAY! DONATE MONTHLY! IF YOU WANT ON SARAH PALIN''S PING LIST, LET ME KNOW)
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To: Sioux-san

Intellegence agencies Intercepted communications detailing attack right after attacks. That has been repeatedly reported this week..


9 posted on 10/13/2012 10:43:55 PM PDT by VRWCarea51
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Thank you posting this. Finally, the first coherent version of the right questions being asked and threads being pulled.

I get it that a reflexive assumption could possibly be made that desk jockies might assume a protest, given the Cairo protest going on nearly simultaneously, but only for about 15 minutes, until you see full assault under way with major weapons, and you hear screams, “ATACK!” over and over. But two weeks calling it a protest? Come on...

What I don’t get is WHO came up with the youtube video fiction? What was THAT fiction suppose to accomplish?

You know there are people who think this was about scoring a point against free speech and give the treatment of the American Coptic Christian who produced it, you have to wonder.

That is another thread that needs to be pulled by Issa.


10 posted on 10/13/2012 10:47:49 PM PDT by RitaOK ( VIVA CHRISTO REY)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The Bengzazi consulate was in continuous radio communications with what would be a large group of people beyond just the State Department. It wasn’t a communications failure. We are to believe that during a six hour attack, with a one hour lull in the action, that nobody asked for approval to react or at least stage personnel and equipment? Patently absurd. The White House has a situation room for “situations”. This all was happening in the middle of the afternoon in Washington. Benghazi isn’t a story about failed intelligence...it’s about failed decision making before, during and after the attack.

Here is a thoughout assessment...

Col. Hunt On The Newest Libyan Revelations http://audio.wrko.com/a/64657882/col-hunt-on-the-newest-libyan-revelations.htm


11 posted on 10/13/2012 10:49:10 PM PDT by Fitzy_888 ("ownership society")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Makes one wish again for a parliamentary democracy. The entire Cabinet resigns.


12 posted on 10/13/2012 10:50:51 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong!)
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To: Linfell

Very darn good point! Hillary and brack must have gotten a kick out of that. An open invitation to a party against free speech across the Middle East, and dang, they couldn’t make it.


13 posted on 10/13/2012 10:56:06 PM PDT by RitaOK ( VIVA CHRISTO REY)
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To: RitaOK

Therein lies the rub. He was NOT a Coptic Christian either, let alone American. He was an Egyption muslim felon, an FBI snitch, whose partner was a known falsestinian terrorist.
First they tried to blame Israel, (Israeli Jew billionaire.) That didn’t work so then they tried to blame Egyptian Christians, but that was foiled because the terrorist’s partner was Walid Shoebat’s first cousin and he KNEW these people.
The maker of the film is either dead or in ‘protective’ custody. Either way, he is disappeared.


14 posted on 10/13/2012 11:06:09 PM PDT by MestaMachine (obama kills and none dare call it treason)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
REMEMBER BENGHAZI


15 posted on 10/13/2012 11:12:19 PM PDT by Slyfox
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To: RitaOK
You know there are people who think this was about scoring a point against free speech and give the treatment of the American Coptic Christian who produced it, you have to wonder.

There is a blogger, Walid something, who credibly claims that Nakoula Nakoula, the producer of "Innocence of Muslims", is:

1. Not Nakoula Nakoula, nor an American, nor a Coptic Christian.

2. Instead, he is, in fact, a Palestinian.

And that the production was a Pallywood propaganda special -- perhaps designed for this administration's use.

16 posted on 10/13/2012 11:18:00 PM PDT by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA; Ignorance on parade.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
READ http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2944272/posts
Colonel Hunt on the newest Libyan revelations.

This subject was discussed in depth and MORE in the above thread. This article must be read by everyone and then we have to once again be the town criers and get this information out to all conservative media sources, to everyone you know. Listen to what Col. said at the link. Read about what was said by the State Dept. at Congressman Issa’s investigative committee and view the CNN video of same. All roads are leading to oboma, and that what happened at Benghazi was all by design. Read the article and the comments, which contains much new information and links. This story is huge, and the blood of Ambassador Stevens and those who died with him are on the hands of oboma, hillary, valerie jarrett and everyone else who was involved in this coverup of the truth.

17 posted on 10/13/2012 11:24:40 PM PDT by itssme
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To: Sioux-san
Everyone keeps saying this was Al-qaida, but where’s the proof on that?

Right here...

* As first reported by Newsweek’s Eli Lake, within hours of the attack, “U.S. intelligence agencies monitored communications from jihadists affiliated with the group that led the attack and members of Al Qaeda in the Islamic Maghreb (AQIM), the group’s North African affiliate.” Lake reported that the intelligence was so detailed, U.S. officials “had even pinpointed the location of one of those attackers.”

18 posted on 10/13/2012 11:25:34 PM PDT by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA; Ignorance on parade.)
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To: okie01; MestaMachine

No, I didn’t know these updates on this guy’s identity, who was arrested in CA. Last I heard was Rush understanding why he had his face covered while being perp walked by police.

The video cartoon on utube was about the most absurd fairy tale to try and tack on to the fiction of a “protest” in Benghazi. And to keep both pieces of fiction going for days when the world sources were all intercepting the truth through their own feeds for themselves is too bizarre.


19 posted on 10/13/2012 11:29:41 PM PDT by RitaOK ( VIVA CHRISTO REY)
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To: Sioux-san

One theory is that it was suppose to be a hostage situation to make obama look good by getting the ambassador released right before the election but it went south instead. It would also explain the low security and why they were told to quit asking for more. Not my theory but it kind of makes sense if you look at the details.


20 posted on 10/13/2012 11:29:47 PM PDT by Linfell
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I already like the title...


21 posted on 10/14/2012 12:03:00 AM PDT by Milagros (Y)
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To: RitaOK
........You know there are people who think this was about scoring a point against free speech and give the treatment of the American Coptic Christian who produced it, you have to wonder.

Are we even sure the film maker is American? AND that he is in 'fact' a Coptic Christian?

____________________________________________________________ http://www.shoebat.com/2012/09/27/innocence-of-muslims-film-was-made-by-terrorists-2/ "Innocence of Muslims Film was Made by Terrorists By Shoebat Foundation on September 27, 2012in Blog, General Walid Shoebat When it comes to the film Innocence of Muslims, our government and the media uses a narrative mired in contradictions and false statements provided by the filmmaker, who himself is an untrustworthy source. If we stick to what can be proven we might obtain the possibility that terror supporters produced the film. Muhammad Al Dura and Pallywood are two cases in point showing the type of stunts used by Palestinian terrorists. So lets examine facts instead of the filmmaker’s fiction. Court documents reveal that Nakoula Bacile Nakoula, producer of the movie Innocence of Muslims, partnered in a scheme with Eiad Salameh, my first cousin. Eiad is a Muslim terror supporter and is not an Egyptian Copt............................" ____________________________________________________________

In my opinion this is/was the first BIG lie. How was it that General Dempsey was ordered to call up an verifiable American, preacher to ask him not to ....get involved... in an anti-religious video? WHO planted the notion the film maker was in the very first account I read Jewish, and then overnight he was then called a Coptic Christian...

22 posted on 10/14/2012 12:11:08 AM PDT by Just mythoughts (Please help Todd Akin defeat Claire and the GOP-e send money!!!!!)
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To: Just mythoughts

http://www.shoebat.com/2012/09/27/innocence-of-muslims-film-was-made-by-terrorists-2/


23 posted on 10/14/2012 12:12:23 AM PDT by Just mythoughts (Please help Todd Akin defeat Claire and the GOP-e send money!!!!!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Obozo had plenty of time to meet with Letterman, Oprah, Beyonce, Jay-Z and any other Hollywood star that would cuddle up and purr with him... but no time for Intelligence Briefings or even an ally such as Netanyahu.


24 posted on 10/14/2012 12:50:39 AM PDT by Bon mots (Abu Ghraib: 47 Times on the front page of the NY Times | Benghazi: 2 Times)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
The coverup, whitewash and media blackout did not work as hoped and some heads may yet roll for this unmitigated disaster.

Far worse than the actual attack, rape and murders - which are bad enough - are the lies, attempt to use this crisis to subvert the first amendment of the US Constitution, coverup and media blackout conspiracy that followed.

Nixon was forced out of office for far, far less.


25 posted on 10/14/2012 12:58:49 AM PDT by Bon mots (Abu Ghraib: 47 Times on the front page of the NY Times | Benghazi: 2 Times)
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To: Bon mots

26 posted on 10/14/2012 1:02:25 AM PDT by Daffynition (Self-respect: the secure feeling that no one, as yet, is suspicious. ~ HLM)
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To: Fitzy_888

There was a thread on Freerepublic quoted a news source that Obama went to sleep three hours after the attack. They he did not care enough about what would happen to stay awake.


27 posted on 10/14/2012 3:08:37 AM PDT by BushCountry (I hope the Mayans are wrong!)
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To: BushCountry

Arg... hit post twice on accident so no edit.


28 posted on 10/14/2012 3:10:23 AM PDT by BushCountry (I hope the Mayans are wrong!)
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To: BushCountry
The attack was pretty much over by 8:30 PM EST Sept. 11, 2012.
29 posted on 10/14/2012 3:56:19 AM PDT by TigersEye (dishonorabledisclosure.com - OPSEC (give them support))
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To: Daffynition

A caller to a local radio show said she saw the greatest bumper sticker...... a picture of Biden “ does this ass make my bumper look fat”?


30 posted on 10/14/2012 4:33:42 AM PDT by ronnie raygun (bb)
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To: Sioux-san

Do you know who Huma Abedin Is? Did you read the Letter Michelle Bachman and Other Representatives signed and were Condemned for,even by Republicans?
That Might give you a Hint as to why these People in BenGahzi were sold out


31 posted on 10/14/2012 4:46:04 AM PDT by ballplayer
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To: Sioux-san

Do you know who Huma Abedin Is? Did you read the Letter Michelle Bachman and Other Representatives signed and were Condemned for,even by Republicans?
That Might give you a Hint as to why these People in BenGahzi were sold out


32 posted on 10/14/2012 4:46:20 AM PDT by ballplayer
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Gee, I didn’t know that it was the Inel folks who put out word that it was all caused by someone “abusing the Freedom of Speech part of the Constitution”. I wonder why we no longer hear those words - “ABUSE of the FREEDOM of SPEECH”. It looks like they have managed to bury one of the atrocities of thought.


33 posted on 10/14/2012 5:24:17 AM PDT by trebb ("If a man will not work, he should not eat" From 2 Thes 3)
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To: Sioux-san

I think the leader was Qumo, who was a detainee at Gitmo that Obama let out and Hillary hired him.......that’s what I read.


34 posted on 10/14/2012 5:37:08 AM PDT by Ann Archy ( ABORTION...the HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

WHERE is HILLARY??????


35 posted on 10/14/2012 5:45:46 AM PDT by Ann Archy ( ABORTION...the HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: trebb

You step back and look at the initial pronouncements about the film, and the frantic lying that took place in the aftermath of the attack on the consulate, and you almost are forced to the conclusion that State was involved directly in the “protests”. These, in turn, served as the beard for the attack in Benghazi.

The collusion was between Hillary and the Muslim Brotherhood, who “promised” some noisy but innocent protests of the ridiculous film. The protests happened on cue, but one of them was not a protest, but an attack. Hillary and company were paralyzed, because Benghazi “looked” initially like part of the plan, ergo, no mobilization of protection.

Her people and many others were listening real-time to what was happening in Benghazi, but couldn’t move, because they couldn’t believe what they were hearing.

All this is why her immediate response was, “How could the people we liberated do this?” She was confessing that the Muslim Brotherhood had reneged on their deal.

This is another Fast and Furious gone ridiculously and murderously wrong.

Who will ever know?


36 posted on 10/14/2012 5:46:44 AM PDT by Chaguito
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To: Sleeping Freeper

What I haven’t really heard much about since it happened was that statement put out by the embassy apologizing - it came out before we knew about the ambassador I think. To me it was a strange statement, almost like it was a preplanned statement that didn’t fit once everything got out of control. Not exactly clear who put it out either.


37 posted on 10/14/2012 6:06:59 AM PDT by Newton (All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent.)
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To: Chaguito

This video clown was arrested so that the media couldn’t get at him and find out who he really is. I won’t be surprised if he has an “accident” while he’s in prison and his true identity is never confirmed.


38 posted on 10/14/2012 6:29:52 AM PDT by littleharbour
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To: ronnie raygun

LOLZ...I like it!

I have to figure out how to muster enough courage to put a removable/magnetic *anti* sticker on my car. Where there’s a will...there’s a way.:)

It’d be a welcome respite of this hideous campaign..plus a small guilty pleasure...like sneaking into the Halloween candy early. :)


39 posted on 10/14/2012 6:56:19 AM PDT by Daffynition (Self-respect: the secure feeling that no one, as yet, is suspicious. ~ HLM)
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To: Ann Archy

40 posted on 10/14/2012 6:58:52 AM PDT by Daffynition (Self-respect: the secure feeling that no one, as yet, is suspicious. ~ HLM)
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To: Daffynition
“The Taliban is inside the building.”


41 posted on 10/14/2012 7:05:39 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Travis McGee

..again....*willies*!?!


42 posted on 10/14/2012 7:11:02 AM PDT by Daffynition (Self-respect: the secure feeling that no one, as yet, is suspicious. ~ HLM)
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To: Daffynition
best one yet...
43 posted on 10/14/2012 7:24:03 AM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: All

We need to tone down the wild conspiracy theories, like the ridiculous one about this being pre-planned, the ambassador was going to be kidnapped and traded for the blink sheik, etc.

The simplest explanation is best as put forth by John Bolton. The lie about the protests was concocted to cover up the fact that Obama did not neutralize Al Qaeda with the assassination of OBL, as he claimed and that the Arab Spring which he supported opened the door for rabid anti-US jihadists to take control of governments in Libya and Egypt.

The attack in Libya was an act of war but couldn’t respond as he should have and risk anti-US chaos in the ME right before the election.

So he wee-wee’d out and lied rather than admit he was on the wrong side in the Arab Spring, his killing of OBL did nothing to quell Al Qaeda, and to cover up his failure to be CIC.

Clinton went along because if she didn’t, she would be held to account as well.

It’s as simple as that, IMO. No need to go looking for far fetched conspiracies.


44 posted on 10/14/2012 7:32:45 AM PDT by randita
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To: itssme

That Colonel Hunt interview with Howie Carr is a bombshell, and I encourage anyone who is interested in what really happened in Benghazi to listen to it.


45 posted on 10/14/2012 8:24:54 AM PDT by mojito (Zero, our Nero.)
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To: TigersEye

Yep, sorry. I read that after the post. It was misinformation that stuck in the nook and cranny of my mind. Thanks again...


46 posted on 10/14/2012 8:32:56 AM PDT by BushCountry (I hope the Mayans are wrong!)
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To: Just mythoughts

Post #819:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2827536/posts?q=1&;page=801

It was either the AP or WSJ insofar as I could tell. I couldn’t find the link to the AP story, any embedded links found on other sites to the AP story, no longer worked! The WSJ wrote a correction with a couple of hours after their report. Dunno about the AP. I would finger the AP but noted that the NYTimes and NPR quote the WSJ. I’ve also noticed that the NYTimes and NPR spell Basile’s name as Bacile. When one tries to google Basile - they ask first if you want Bacile - not that one can’t get Basile but interesting they ask first...


47 posted on 10/14/2012 8:38:59 AM PDT by bronxville (Margaret Sanger - “We do not want word to go out that we want to exterminate the Negro population,)
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To: bronxville

Another thing that’s interesting...the NYTimes, NPR...when writing about the 17th Febuary Martyr’s Brigade, write the 17th Febuary Brigade. The same thing happened at the hearing. Lamb said either 17th Febuary or 17th Febuary Brigade. The N African name for al Qaeda is longer but never abreviated.

The name “Martyr’s” has an obvious stigma. How could one even begin to hire people with such a name to protect our personnel?

As the leftists know well, labeling is important - has meaning, when which is why I think we should call Benghazi - BenghaziGate on the continuum. As Diana West noted, Feb 17th wasn’t even for the revolution in the first place, it was on that date the Italian attache in Cairo opened his jacket, underneath he was wearing a T-shirt with a cartoon of Mo. It appears they never forget an insult to their mo.


48 posted on 10/14/2012 8:52:41 AM PDT by bronxville (Margaret Sanger - “We do not want word to go out that we want to exterminate the Negro population,)
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To: RitaOK
The video cartoon on utube was about the most absurd fairy tale to try and tack on to the fiction of a “protest” in Benghazi.

The "video cartoon", as you call it, is a vintage example of Palestinian-style propaganda -- amateurish and crude.

It seems absurd that it should be an effective piece of work. But you must remember that Palestinian propaganda is aimed at a single audience: the Western media. And our media folks are a gullible group, with little ability (or taste) for thinking critically.

49 posted on 10/14/2012 9:37:29 AM PDT by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA; Ignorance on parade.)
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To: ballplayer

Yes, to all your questions - Are you saying that Al Qaida is an ally of the Muslim Brotherhood? If MB was behind it, and our Govt. is in bed with these monsters (which it appears to be), now what? I have also heard a plausible explanation that it was another group that was loyal to Qadafi and enraged that their country has been trashed (how they had all that weaponry is questionable). So, bottom line - our Enemies over there a numerous and varied - horrific weapons are obviously in the hands of those Enemies - jsut beware of disinformation from our Govt. etc etc etc


50 posted on 10/14/2012 9:40:15 AM PDT by Sioux-san
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