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Two SEALs ruin October Surprise
Author ^ | 10/14/2012 | Kozy

Posted on 10/14/2012 8:28:48 AM PDT by Kozy

The murder of Ambassador Stevens at Benghazi is Obama's October surprise gone bad thanks to two former SEALS who were not supposed to be at Benghazi. But then I ran to the end of the story so let's back fill the datapoints.

First President Morsi first public statement to us was that he wanted the blind iman who first bombed the WTC released. Now Obama forever dedicated to appeasing the muslim world, bowing to them comes natural to him, knew that he had to obey Morsi's request however he couldn't release Omar Abdul-Rahman. There had to be a reason powerful enough to warrant his release. What better than to return to the Carter era of American hostages?

Obama sees a way to release the iman and secure his reelection in one act. So the wheels are set in motion. So he needed a cover story. Oh, the You Tube video that no one has seen, released in July. America could be shamed into releasing the iman because someone posted an obscure video and we have to follow Obama's lead and bow to muslims.

Next weaken the security at Benghazi by removing the security teams and employing Libyan bodyguards for the ambassador. In effect the embassy could not defend itself. The back channel had to be from the WH to the iman's legal representatives. It was suggested that Obama needed a reason to release the iman that America could agree to. What better than hostages? They were informed that there were no security forces at Benghazi to defend Stevens so over run the embassy and take him hostage. Really easy.

What was not planned for were former SEALS Donerty and Woods. They were not part of Stevens security detail; they happened to be in Benghazi working for the CIA to located missing surface-to-air missiles.

So the terrorists plan the assault on the embassy thinking there would be no resistance. Well two SEALS never back down from defending America and Americans. These two heros gave their lives fighting to protect our embassy and our ambassador. No telling how many peaceful muslim they transported to the after life however the terrorists who thought this was just a walk in the park protect now sought out the Americans to kill them not hold them captive. The over throw went from hostage taking to killing.

Now the WH knew the plan had blown up. There were no hostages only dead Americans. How to cover? Roll out the 14 minute video, no one has seen, as the cause. The WH cover up was in play.

With the killing of Ambassador Stevens, there could be no exchange, no October surprise. Oh what was the October surprise? Well Obama would spend a month negotiating with the terrorists for the release of Ambassador Stevens and finally and after his focused efforts on saving Stevens' live, Stevens would be released just before the election. Obama would have sucked out all the energy from the campaign as everyone would be watching him, the Nobel Peace Prize winner, negotiate for the release of Stevens. The world would applaud him, the muslim would have their murderous iman back, he would be reelected and the destruction of America who go on.

We can only thank every day these SEALS for defending America with their lives.

A lot of datapoints, Benghazi, President Morsi, SEALS, blind iman, 14 minute You Tube video; withdrawal of security from embassy, October surprise and Obama's October surprise.

Wonder which story makes more sense? Mine of the one the WH spins every day that keeps changing as the lies are exposed.


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KEYWORDS: alteredsource; benghazi; benghazigate; benghazimotive; benghaziplot; navyseals; octobersurprise; seals; threatmatrix; vanity
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To: Kozy

Think Iran 1979....A U.S. Ambassador with no security detail? Highly unlikely..For anyone who served in Southeast Asia.. has either been part of the security detail or interacted with said details.
This was a setup designed to provide cover. Personal opinion...2 former S.E.A.L.’s were the flies in the ointment.
The WH was not surprised of the U.S. Consulate attack! No Presser by Present Obama....curious..
The sacrificial terrorists were provided weapons and were more likely convinced of the fact there would be no resistance. Hence, once the 2 former S.E.A.L.’s Donerty and Woods intervened, well...the situation escalated way beyond the original plans.


21 posted on 10/14/2012 8:54:47 AM PDT by Fully Awake DAV (Navy Vet when homosexuality was not tolerated)
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To: Kozy

This would mean that the primary allies in the re-election efforts of a sitting US Preident was AL QAEDA.

Who was the security guy who said, “the Taliban is inside the building”...?

Now I know PERFECTLY how he felt and why.


22 posted on 10/14/2012 9:03:27 AM PDT by gaijin
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To: Kozy
What was not planned for were former SEALS Donerty and Woods. They were not part of Stevens security detail; they happened to be in Benghazi working for the CIA to located missing surface-to-air missiles.

You see the Congressional testimony? When asked how many surface to air (I thought shoulder-mounted) missles, the State Dept guy said something like, "10,000 to 20,000". Eerie. No one picked that one up.

23 posted on 10/14/2012 9:05:18 AM PDT by Zuben Elgenubi
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To: Kozy

Good scenerio. I wonder what our Ambassador and important security documents were doing in Bengahzi with little security at less than standard accomodations in an area that everyone else (UN, Brits) were bugging out.
Another scenerio: An AQ attack on a CIA operation with the Ambassador as collateral damage? (The Libs despise the CIA)


24 posted on 10/14/2012 9:07:55 AM PDT by griswold3 (Big Government does not tolerate rivals.)
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To: Kozy

This scenario is very believable for many reasons. Just two that come to mind are:

1) that leftists would manipulate, connive, lie and distort for the purpose of political gain

2) that the only thing these leftists are ultimately capable of, when they try to manipulate circumstances involving elements of military intelligence, is to completely screw up their own plan

It’s as if they had Valerie Jarrett running things.


25 posted on 10/14/2012 9:09:57 AM PDT by reasonisfaith ("...because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved." (2 Thessalonians))
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To: Kozy

Thank you Kozy, this sure makes more sense than anything we have heard.


26 posted on 10/14/2012 9:10:59 AM PDT by angelsonmyside (Someone please send the Loser in Chief a "President For Dummy's" book.)
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To: MissMagnolia

Wow! Your dream scenario gave me a “Chrissy Mathews Moment”.


27 posted on 10/14/2012 9:16:51 AM PDT by Aevery_Freeman (All Y'all White Peoples is racist!)
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To: Terry Mross
As has been commented, I an not a writer. Hope someone else with a better pen than I will expand and explore.

The two SEALS who gave their lives and threw the monkey wrench into the story are the heroes. Read about them in the following account. It was got me thinking and as the stories have unfolded, I believe I am right with the true story.

http://theconservativetreehouse.com/2012/09/21/boldly-into-the-breach/

28 posted on 10/14/2012 9:17:45 AM PDT by Kozy (Calling Al Gore)
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To: Kozy
I'll buy part of your story. The movie, the movie was part of someone's operation. Whose? I have no idea. But clearly the White House stuck to the movie cover story far longer then it would have had they not seriously thought the movie would be used as a pretext for protests. So did they have intel? Or did they have a plan? Further then that I am not yet willing to go.

A much simpler explanation is that Libya (Obama War) was suppose to show case his great expertise in foreign affairs. Consequently Obama seeking not to offend the Libyans did not want a large security foot print at our installations in Libya. Libya was suppose to be a great success for Obama not another problem for the USA in a very problem prone part of the world. As we now know it all blew up in Obamas' face. And he is desperately looking for something or someone to blame. My take fixes the facts and is much simpler to understand. :)

29 posted on 10/14/2012 9:20:47 AM PDT by jpsb
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To: bert
To complex and fragile to be real

How so? It fits every verifiable detail as to timing and placement of personnel.

Stevens stayed later than everyone else (who left in August, I believe).

The video was an excuse. It had been released months earlier, and even the Libyans said there was no protest...that is was a terrorist act.

The security personnel were removed and indigenous personnel comprised the security team.

There WAS media babble about releasing the 'blind sheik'

What exactly DOESN'T fit?

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IMHO, the principle of Occam's razor applies. That among competing hypotheses, the one which makes the fewest assumptions should be selected.

I can find no 'assumptions' in the author's theory, and the one assumption previously posed by another FReeper fits the facts as well.

It would explain WHY Obama wasn't concerned about the 3am phone call and why NOTHING was done while our people were being murdered.

One has to wonder what those people who ignored those cries for help are thinking now.

30 posted on 10/14/2012 9:21:27 AM PDT by MamaTexan (I am a Person as Created by the Laws of Nature, not a person as created by the laws of Man)
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To: Kozy

Now I absolutely understand how and why he Bengazi assault was led by a radical who was released from Gitmo —clearly this plan wasn’t hatched and executed on-the-fly; that nut was released for a very specific reason and his REAL boss was and possibly even IS NOW Vallerie Jarrett.


31 posted on 10/14/2012 9:22:00 AM PDT by gaijin
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To: Kozy

Kozy,

The scenario you describe is simply ridiculous and sheer folly. However, given this administration’s extreme radical ideology combined with msm immunity and interference, they probably thought the scheme could be pulled off. I reluctantly admit your theory makes the most “sense.” Strong work.


32 posted on 10/14/2012 9:23:38 AM PDT by Cruz ("Wherever there is a jackboot stomping on a human face there will be a well-heeled Western liberal t)
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To: Kozy

Were the two Seals in the room with Stephens and Smith when the “guard” was taking the pictures? The pictures were being sent to someone and they would have been noticed. Or maybe they were being sent for ID reasons but it was something Smith wrote about on Eve online to his friend. He was so perturbed he mentioned they mightn’t get out alive.


33 posted on 10/14/2012 9:25:15 AM PDT by bronxville (Margaret Sanger - “We do not want word to go out that we want to exterminate the Negro population,)
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To: gaijin

It is standing procedure at Gitmo that when radicals there cooperate sufficiently they are rewarded —many times with full RELEASE.

Now I know what treacherous bargain was struck with that particular jihadi.

SEE THE RING FOR WHAT IT IS.


34 posted on 10/14/2012 9:28:23 AM PDT by gaijin
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To: Kozy
Your theory though plausible.... Has a hole in it...

The Obama administration could have just easily waited until after the election to “ release” the blind sheik

If he won.... It's done for humantian reasons....

If he lost...it’s done just because he can....

35 posted on 10/14/2012 9:30:21 AM PDT by Popman (November 7th...will be a good day for America..)
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To: Kozy
Check out who made that video, and who was initially blamed for its creation. I do not believe for one minute it came about by accident. The rest of your story line is plausible given what we now know.
36 posted on 10/14/2012 9:30:59 AM PDT by Just mythoughts (Please help Todd Akin defeat Claire and the GOP-e send money!!!!!)
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To: Kozy

Good find, thanks. Wonder if it’s true? Wonder if we’ll ever know?


37 posted on 10/14/2012 9:32:28 AM PDT by DManA
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To: skeeter

Reagan won by projecting Reagan. The American people knew he would protect us and the muzzies knew they would have to deal with him and not the befuddled Carter.


38 posted on 10/14/2012 9:34:16 AM PDT by Let's Roll (Save the world's best healthcare - REPEAL, DEFUND Obamacare!)
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To: Kozy

“So the terrorists plan the assault on the embassy thinking there would be no resistance. Well two SEALS never back down from defending America and Americans. These two heros gave their lives fighting to protect our embassy and our ambassador. No telling how many peaceful muslim they transported to the after life however the terrorists who thought this was just a walk in the park protect now sought out the Americans to kill them not hold them captive. The over throw went from hostage taking to killing.”

Even without this scenario (which is plausible to me) I have been believing that those seals gave their lives for bringing forth the incompetence and malintent of this administration into public view.


39 posted on 10/14/2012 9:36:41 AM PDT by TEXOKIE (Nobody made a greater mistake than he who did nothing because he could do only a little. EdmondBurke)
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To: Kozy
This is a little sleazy:

They told the Guardian"

Most people reading that think The Guardian is the relatively respectable newspaper from GB. What the hell is the "Washington Guardian"?

40 posted on 10/14/2012 9:36:59 AM PDT by DManA
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