Skip to comments.Presidential Contest Tight Nationally Ahead Of Second Debate [WaPo/ABC: Obama 49%; Romney 46%]
Posted on 10/14/2012 10:00:31 PM PDT by Steelfish
Presidential Contest Tight Nationally Ahead Of Second Debate
Dan Balz and Jon Cohen October 14
On the eve of their second debate, President Obama and challenger Mitt Romney remain locked in a virtual dead heat nationally, with Republicans showing increased enthusiasm for their nominee after his big win in the first debate, according to a new Washington Post-ABC News poll.
Likely voters in the new poll split 49 percent for Obama to 46 percent for Romney, basically unmoved from the poll two weeks ago, just before the two candidates met in Denver for their first debate. On topic after topic, the survey portrays an electorate that remains deeply divided along partisan lines and locked in its views.
Nearly two-thirds say they do not need any more information before Election Day, and barely one in eight is undecided or says there is a chance he could change his vote. Even as voters overwhelmingly perceive that Romney won the first debate, the vast majority say their opinion of the president did not shift as a result.
But more people changed their views of Romney, largely in a positive direction. Overall, more than twice as many say their opinions of the former Massachusetts governor improved than say they worsened as a result of the debate. The strongest reaction is among Romney backers, 70 percent of whom say Denver made them think more highly of the GOP nominee.
The improvement in views of Romney carries directly into the underpinnings of his support: Fewer of his supporters now express anxiety about a Romney administration, and the number of his backers saying they support him very enthusiastically jumped by double digits. Among the likely voters supporting Romney, 62 percent now do so intensely, exactly double the number who were eagerly lined up behind Republican nominee...
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I did an analysis of this Pravda Press article. It turns out EVERY word is a lie, including “and” and “the”.
Steelfish found another poll where Obama is ahead! Why it does not surprise me!!
I see the polls are back to being extra padded again. Giving Obama a buffer in case he bombs again, or if he manages to do alright they can justify a fabricated ‘surge’ in his polling as evincing a spectacular comeback.
Yeah, this Steelfish fellow... he’s crossed my radar before.... let me do a thorough investigation on possible troll status... I also need to run over and give TArcher some props for backing his argument pretty well, and remove him from the troll radar, although we definitely come to opposed conclusions on the data... ping out to TArcher, will get over there tomorrow...
Change your rose-tinted glasses and deal with a mature reality. We can’t one day support a poll because Romney is ahead and the next day attack it because it shows our side is not ahead. Being childish is of no help either to Romney camp or the intelligent analysis of the poll at hand.
I do not believe anything the Post prints....even if they said the sun rose in the east
[was any of the punctuation true?]
I’m really starting to “wonder” about “Steelfish”.
we cannot one day read a poll that is heavily skewed left and believe it and then pretend that the skew doesn’t mean anything. go away until the election is over.
Why don’t you spend your time getting the vote out for conservatives
Here's your intelligent analysis
The poll is horseshit
At least you make a good analysis unlike some of the others wearing horse blinders. Of course is the breakdown you cite based on the national registration breakdown? likely voters based on 2008? 2012? These are all relevant questions.
First question - What are the internals???
“Partisan identification fluctuates from poll to poll as basic orientations shift and with the sampling variability that accompanies each randomly selected sample of voters. In the current poll, Democrats outnumber Republicans by nine percentage points among likely voters; the previous three Post-ABC polls had three-, six- and five-percentage-point edges for Democrats. “
THIS IS A D +9 POLL!!!!!!!
So, if turnout is 3 points better than Obama got in 2008 - he’s up 3 points. So Obama is even in a 2008 turnout world.
Not only that but the shift was 4 pts more D, and the out come was the same, so Obama’s REAL position is about 4 points worse.
This poll is purely to negate other real valid polls so the poll averages dont show Romney ahead. It’s off by at least 6 points, confirming that Romney is in fact ahead by about 3 points.
This is getting ludicrous. I sense the media has had enough with the Romney momentum and are going to do everything they can to declare Obama the winner of the next debate and then puke out bogus poll after bogus poll.
I think a lot depends on whether there has been a discernible shift among single white women. This bloc will decide the outcome of this election.
I don’t think steelfish understands samples and basic electoral metrics, just my opinion, no offense.
You are missing my point....Of course I know R+R won’t win every swing state, or every poll. But you must derive a pleasure in posting the negative news for R+R. Your negative news posts far outnumber positive news for Romney/Ryan.
This is not Steelfish’s poll.
The breakdown I cite are the internals to the specific poll you posted.
You didn't see them?
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