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GAO: America has 118 million pistols, 8 million conceal-carry permits
washingtonexaminer.com ^ | 26 July, 2012 | Paul Bedard

Posted on 10/15/2012 9:25:02 AM PDT by marktwain

In a new report heralded by the NRA, the General Accountability Office finds that the numbers of Americans with permits to carry a concealed weapon has surged and virtually every state now allows pistols to be carried under garments or even in a car glove box.

"The number of states allowing concealed carry permits is increasing," said the GAO.

The report included two shocking numbers:

-- There are currently 118 million handguns in America, either owned or for sale.

-- Some 8 million Americans already have a concealed carry permit, about 1 million more than previously thought.

The report found that permits are not available only in Washington, D.C. and Illinois and that some states have huge populations of conceal carry permit holders. For example, in South Dakota and Georgia, about 10 percent of the population has a permit. In Virginia, 279,000 have them but in Maryland only 12,000 can legally carry a concealed weapon.

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So about 2.57 percent of the population have concealed carry permits. That is over six percent of voters, a very significant numer.
1 posted on 10/15/2012 9:25:10 AM PDT by marktwain
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To: marktwain

This in none of the GAO’s business.


2 posted on 10/15/2012 9:29:35 AM PDT by rsobin
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To: marktwain
How does the GAO know?

Why do they care to know?

3 posted on 10/15/2012 9:30:12 AM PDT by Paladin2
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To: marktwain
What the Examiner finds "shocking", many of us find quite reassuring.
4 posted on 10/15/2012 9:30:20 AM PDT by andy58-in-nh (Cogito, ergo armatum sum.)
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To: marktwain
Wish I saw more signs like this...


5 posted on 10/15/2012 9:30:28 AM PDT by Daffynition (Self-respect: the secure feeling that no one, as yet, is suspicious. ~ HLM)
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To: marktwain

I’m shocked so many are unarmed.


6 posted on 10/15/2012 9:31:07 AM PDT by 1_Rain_Drop
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To: marktwain

Fortunately, there are many more gun owners than just CCW folk.


7 posted on 10/15/2012 9:33:09 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: Daffynition

“I like coffee AND guns!”

Said a round, green bumper sticker mocked up to look like the Starbucks logo....a mermaid with both pistols drawn.

....on the back of a young lady’s SUV as she pulled into Joint Base Lewis McChord last night.


8 posted on 10/15/2012 9:35:40 AM PDT by Uncle Miltie (You didn't build that. The private sector is doing fine. We tried our plan and it worked.)
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To: marktwain

Here it is. Slightly different.

9 posted on 10/15/2012 9:36:44 AM PDT by Uncle Miltie (You didn't build that. The private sector is doing fine. We tried our plan and it worked.)
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To: marktwain

Some Aussie was here the other day suggesting that this country would soon be like France (and their problem with feral Moroccan toughs) and parts of London: Muslim youths harassing women with uncovered heads on the street, bullying old people on buses; staking out sections of cities as Sharia zones, etc..

Anyone have the video of the old coot gunning down two of Holder’s yutes in a bingo parlor? Eight million concealed weapons permits doesn’t necessarily make for a polite society, but we all recall Samuel Colt’s famous quote and, as well, it reminds us of the founding fathers’ prescience. Coming soon—America alone.


10 posted on 10/15/2012 9:37:48 AM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: all armed conservatives)
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To: Paladin2

They probably have access to the states databases.


11 posted on 10/15/2012 9:37:48 AM PDT by stuartcr ("When silence speaks, it speaks only to those that have already decided what they want to hear.")
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To: stephenjohnbanker

Its a start. we need more shocking numbers than this. of course this isn’t including large arms. ;)


12 posted on 10/15/2012 9:37:48 AM PDT by Gasshog
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To: 1_Rain_Drop

I prefer a carry that actually hurts my hands to fire at the range. I want that first one to hit hard, and completely. I want it to be a natural instinct.

My goal at the range is not the bulls eye. It is to hit a silouette at 10 yards in the ‘hurt badly’ area. Three shots: center mass twice, then head.


13 posted on 10/15/2012 9:37:53 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: marktwain

“Gosh, I wish we could reduce the number of guns in America,” said no Constitution-loving-American, ever.


14 posted on 10/15/2012 9:38:06 AM PDT by Lazamataz (WAAAAAAAAAHHHhhhhh.....)
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To: 1_Rain_Drop

Collateral Damage.


15 posted on 10/15/2012 9:39:07 AM PDT by ImJustAnotherOkie (zerogottago)
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To: marktwain

I really like the “or even in a car glove box” statement! I happen to carry both on my person AND even in my car glove box - can never be too prepared ya know.


16 posted on 10/15/2012 9:39:34 AM PDT by msrngtp2002 (Just my opinion.)
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To: marktwain

Yeah, shocking low numbers. Most of the rest must have been lost in various boating accidents.


17 posted on 10/15/2012 9:39:39 AM PDT by Truth29
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To: stephenjohnbanker

And many more unregisterd guns too.


18 posted on 10/15/2012 9:39:56 AM PDT by ruesrose (It's possible to be clueless without being blonde.)
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To: marktwain
So about 2.57 percent of the population have concealed carry permits. That is over six percent of voters, a very significant number.

And that's just concealed carry permits. There are probably another 10 million shotguns and rifles here in Michigan alone.
19 posted on 10/15/2012 9:40:23 AM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: ruesrose

Yep


20 posted on 10/15/2012 9:41:15 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: marktwain

We need more. A lot more.


21 posted on 10/15/2012 9:45:49 AM PDT by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s....you weren't really there)
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To: rsobin

I wonder how many of those 100 million pistols without carry permits are carried in the ghettos, anyway.


22 posted on 10/15/2012 9:46:51 AM PDT by expat2
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To: andy58-in-nh

Yeah, nothing shocking about this, what’s the problem.

I’ve been carrying a loaded pistol in my driver’s side door pocket for years. Now I have a concealed carry permit to go with it.

I’m thinking ankle holster due to the usual situation in which I would pack. Too many groupies like to get their hugs at the clubs where my band plays. They are likely to discover a gun worn near the belt or even under the arm. When I’m in a parking lot at 2:00 AM with cash in my pocket and loading expensive equipment, I need some “coverage”.


23 posted on 10/15/2012 9:48:48 AM PDT by SaxxonWoods (....The days are long, but the years are short.....)
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To: ChildOfThe60s

“We need more. A lot more.”

Yeh, tell me about it. Especially after we heard a low flying Huey come over our neighborhood yesterday afternoon. The fiancee’ went out to take a look and it was painted blue and white (DHS) and had both doors open and armed gunners sitting on each door ready for action. Welcome to the USSA.


24 posted on 10/15/2012 9:50:49 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: marktwain

There are some states where permits are technically available under the law but, in truth, are not issued as a matter of policy.


25 posted on 10/15/2012 9:51:31 AM PDT by Chuckster (The longer I live the less I care about what you think.)
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To: marktwain

I have several handguns. I have a licence to carry, but not a concealed carry. Go figure...stupid MA laws.

Its not really a secret...I guess its public record. Who cares?


26 posted on 10/15/2012 9:57:23 AM PDT by Vermont Lt (MIf you are a white conservative, you MUST be a racist. ;-))
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To: Truth29

It never ceases to amaze me how many of us FReepers have recently suffered “severe boating accidents.”


27 posted on 10/15/2012 9:59:15 AM PDT by libstripper
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To: marktwain

It’s a good start, but I hope we can increase that number.


28 posted on 10/15/2012 10:02:31 AM PDT by History Repeats (sic transit gloria mundi)
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To: andy58-in-nh

What Good Can a Handgun Do Against An Army?
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-backroom/2312894/posts


29 posted on 10/15/2012 10:04:30 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You cannot invade the mainland United States. There would be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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To: marktwain

That’s just the ones they know about, through registration and carry permits. It pays to keep them guessing at the real number.


30 posted on 10/15/2012 10:04:48 AM PDT by factoryrat (We are the producers, the creators. Grow it, mine it, build it.)
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To: SaxxonWoods
I've had a carry permit for many years and I enjoy the fact that so many people are now helping to extend the coverage area of American Victim-Free Zones.

Some advice if you're considering an ankle holster: get one that's reliable, well-made (not cheap) and secure. I'd offer the same advice for any holster, basically. And plan to carry small and light in that location (e.g. - S&W 442 .38+P Airweight).

Otherwise, always think defensively when you're in the open and alone. Be aware of your surroundings and plan your actions so that threat conditions do not sneak up on you, especially at 2am, when nothing good ever seems to happen (except in a waterbed, perhaps).

31 posted on 10/15/2012 10:06:36 AM PDT by andy58-in-nh (Cogito, ergo armatum sum.)
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To: marktwain

So

118 million guns, minus 25% for those that are for sale somewhere or in a state that does not require permits.

88.5 million divided by 8 million permit holders = 11 guns per permit.

I need to get busy, I’m down a couple.


32 posted on 10/15/2012 10:07:29 AM PDT by NY.SS-Bar9 (Mitt has dogs for pets - Obama had them for lunch)
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To: History Repeats; All
The significance of these numbers is that these are actively involved people who vote at near 100% levels. The politicians have a hard time ignoring numbers that are twice the level of the NRA membership and who have shown a dedication far beyond having grandpa's shotgun in the closet.

The 2.5% figure is approaching the 3% figure of Americans who were actively involved in fighting the British Crown during the revolution. I believe that GAO got the numbers by asking the states for them.

33 posted on 10/15/2012 10:09:48 AM PDT by marktwain
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To: marktwain

We need more concealed carry permits holders...


34 posted on 10/15/2012 10:15:18 AM PDT by Little Ray (AGAINST Obama in the General.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

That’s an oldie but good. Classic post.


35 posted on 10/15/2012 10:16:17 AM PDT by andy58-in-nh (Cogito, ergo armatum sum.)
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To: marktwain
The report found that permits are not available only in Washington, D.C. and Illinois...

Misleading statement. In New Jersey a law-abiding citizen who is not in law enforcement or politically connected has as little chance of obtaining a handgun permit as a convicted felon. You have to "prove the need", and the proof is never enough.

36 posted on 10/15/2012 10:17:00 AM PDT by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed &water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS, NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: Georgia Girl 2
Especially after we heard a low flying Huey come over our neighborhood yesterday afternoon. The fiancee’ went out to take a look and it was painted blue and white (DHS) and had both doors open and armed gunners sitting on each door ready for action. Welcome to the USSA.

Yeah, but don't worry. A lot of people here seem to think those gunners would never fire on their fellow citizens.

There are psychological studies up the whazoo that clearly show you can get people to do pretty much anything to their fellow man simply by putting a little distance between them and the victim. That's one of the reasons the feds are so excited about drones. They will have no trouble getting people to shoot down civilians using drones. It's just not real. As contrasted with putting a gun in someone's hand and telling them to put the barrel up to someone's head and blow their brains all over the street. You'd get *some* resistance to that. Although less than most would imagine, given the proper coercion is used.

37 posted on 10/15/2012 10:21:21 AM PDT by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s....you weren't really there)
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To: marktwain

We bought SWHC years ago, just because my husband said some day it will do well (and it was really cheap)...it was pretty flat for a long time, but not lately!


38 posted on 10/15/2012 10:21:39 AM PDT by memyselfandi59
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To: Chuckster
There are some states where permits are technically available under the law but, in truth, are not issued as a matter of policy.

Example is my #36.

39 posted on 10/15/2012 10:22:05 AM PDT by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed &water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS, NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: marktwain

NJ says they have concealed carry but they really don’t. Impossible to get one.


41 posted on 10/15/2012 10:24:14 AM PDT by culpeper (I have sworn upon the altar of God eternal hostility against every form of tyranny... TJ)
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To: Manly Warrior
Well done! That is awesome! Biggest wall of text I have ever seen on FR!
43 posted on 10/15/2012 10:27:08 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (ua)
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To: Manly Warrior

Thailand?


44 posted on 10/15/2012 10:28:22 AM PDT by SparkyBass
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To: marktwain
Although concealed carry is much safer for the permit holder, I can't help but like the idea of OPEN-CARRY in some situations! :-) Image Hosted by ImageShack.us

45 posted on 10/15/2012 10:30:10 AM PDT by Chance Hart
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To: marktwain

What about long guns?


46 posted on 10/15/2012 10:31:19 AM PDT by nolongerademocrat ("Before you ask G-d for something, first thank G-d for what you already have." B'rachot 30b)
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To: marktwain

I see I’m behind the curve, I have one concealed carry permit and only four handguns. I need to get 10.75 more handguns to make the average.

Hmm, the missus also has her concealed carry permit, but carries one of my guns. That’s another 14.7 handguns we need to buy.

Oh honey...


47 posted on 10/15/2012 10:34:12 AM PDT by Yo-Yo (Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: Manly Warrior
I was reading your post, until


48 posted on 10/15/2012 10:39:06 AM PDT by freedomlover
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To: Paladin2
How does the GAO know?

That's easy to answer. CCW permits generally require an FBI background check. It's a safe assumption that a favorable background check results in issuing the permit.

Frankly, it's none of their business. The use of the word "shocking" in the article exposes the bias of the author. Ownership and possession of a firearm is no threat to anyone. The only "threat" is the small number of persons who misuse firearms to facilitate criminal activity. A fair number of those are effectively countered by the much larger number of law abiding owners. There is the other threat...tyrannical government. One would hope that firearm ownership by private citizens keeps that threat at bay as well. The general principle of "mind your own business" goes a long way toward minimizing conflicts.

49 posted on 10/15/2012 10:41:50 AM PDT by Myrddin
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To: Gaffer

Agreed.

I practice putting two or three rapid fire shots into a 12 inch circle (paper plate as template) on a zombie target. I practice from both low ready and alternately a draw from behind the back IWB holster wearing my ‘conceal’ clothes. SIG P220/.45 ACP, 25 feet OR LESS generally.

I don’t go for the Hollywood 50 yd shot; rather a likely self defense/ personal protection, close-in target.

I also at times shoot on a dark lane and without my prescription lens glasses — the situation I’d have at night at home.

Frankly if folks have never practiced (just a few rounds) without hearing protection, they may be PROFOUNDLY startled at how LOUD their firearm is.

NET: If I can feel certain I can put three .45 ACP hollow points into a 12 inch circle at 25 feet or less, I am happy with that.

It would be nice to be able to practice in a shoot house with moving targets, but that’s just not plausible. ;-)


50 posted on 10/15/2012 10:42:56 AM PDT by Blueflag (Res ipsa loquitur: non vehere est inermus)
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